Boxing day test v India 2014

[1910]

India controls the cricketing world, they get whatever they want, hence the wickets we dish up.

If India had any say it would be a dust bowl. Blame the AFL.

 

[Socnorb]

I think the wicket is fine. Aussies created plenty of chances today but dropped several catches and the Indians made them pay (as they should have). Kholi and Rahane batted superbly - nothing lazy about their performance - their running between the wickets in particular really frustrated the bowlers as they couldn't build pressure.

I said their footwork is lazy, as it can be on the subcontinent. Generally exposed when the ball moves a little. I just feel for the Aussie quicks. Gabba was ok but the other two and probably the SCG are fast bowler graveyards.

 

[Socnorb]

It's a drop in pitch- what do you expect? They will never be lively.

Don't drop chances and Australia would be batting again 200 in front.

I agree with you re the dropped chances. Very uncharacteristic . I prefer when there's a bit in it for the bowlers, if that's the style of wickets we are going to continue to produce , who'd want to be a fast bowler. If it's a drop in wicket why can't we control it to be exactly as we want? they've been doing drop ins for 1000 years. Do you think if asked ," what sort of wicket do you want?",that's what they would've asked for?

 

[Broncoman]

I wish the Indians would shut the **** up about sledging. Kohli took a shot at our players for sledging in the press conference. Hypocrisy by the Indians they've been giving it to our guys throughout the series but are pissing and moaning when we are doing it. Sledging is a part of cricket and if you can't handle it you shouldn't play it.

 

[1910]

I agree with you re the dropped chances. Very uncharacteristic . I prefer when there's a bit in it for the bowlers, if that's the style of wickets we are going to continue to produce , who'd want to be a fast bowler. If it's a drop in wicket why can't we control it to be exactly as we want? they've been doing drop ins for 1000 years. Do you think if asked ," what sort of wicket do you want?",that's what they would've asked for?

Drop in have only been used at the MCG since 1996.

Drop in's are always more docile, you can't reproduce exactly what it normally would be- This is why the 'Gabba refuses to do it. I don't think there is anything wrong with the pitch as it is. If both sides had fielded well and caught well then they wouldn't have such huge scores.

India let in 16 extras and dropped catches.

This game could easily be an Amazing Adelaide 2 from 2006.

 

[1910]

I wish the Indians would shut the **** up about sledging. Kohli took a shot at our players for sledging in the press conference. Hypocrisy by the Indians they've been giving it to our guys throughout the series but are ****ing and moaning when we are doing it. Sledging is a part of cricket and if you can't handle it you shouldn't play it.

He didn't whinge at all, he stood up for himself and throwing the ball at batsman isn't acceptable he had every right to tell Johnson to bugger off.

 

[broncos4life]

He didn't whinge at all, he stood up for himself and throwing the ball at batsman isn't acceptable he had every right to tell Johnson to bugger off.

He threw the ball at the stumps. Bowlers do it all the time ffs.

Tell him to bugger off to his face, not a press conference

 

[1910]

He threw the ball at the stumps. Bowlers do it all the time ffs.

Tell him to bugger off to his face, not a press conference

He did say it to his face, the umpires got between them during the spat.

He was asked about the incident and commented- again as he should be able to. You know like Warner does every day?

 

[Sproj]

What exactly did Karmichael Kohli say?

 

[1910]

In a refreshingly candid question and answer session that was as disarming as it will doubtlessly prove distasteful to his already bitter rivals, Kohli made no attempt to swathe his true feelings about some members of the Australian team in sport’s traditional diplomatic clichés.
“I respect quite a few of them but someone who doesn’t respect me I’ve got no reason to respect him,” Kohli said with an unflinching and incisive straightness that he had earlier shown with the cover drive that raised his third century of this Commonwealth Bank Series.
“It was going on throughout the day.
“They were calling me a spoiled brat and I said ‘maybe that’s the way I am, and I know you guys hate me’ … and it worked in my favour I guess.
“I like playing against Australia because it’s very hard for them to stay calm and I don’t mind an argument on the field.
“It really excites me and brings the best out of me, so they don’t seem to be learning their lesson.”

“I was really annoyed with him (Johnson) hitting me with the ball and I told him that’s not on – try and hit the stumps next time, not my body,” Kohli explained later, once more ignoring the accepted covenant that what happens on field stays there.


“I just backed myself,” Kohli replied when asked, as was posed to others during the Brisbane Test, if he was concerned that provoking Johnson might prove counter-productive.
“He was going at 4.7 (runs) per over today and didn’t get a wicket throughout the day, and I backed myself that I could take him on even if I keep talking to him.
“That’s important, you can’t then back off after saying a few words and not show it with your skill so I decided that whenever he comes on to bowl I was going to back myself and take him on.

“I don’t mind giving a word back and neither does he, so it kept going on.”


“Good for them,” Kohli responded when asked if he saw any undercurrent of over-confidence or conceit in the attitude of the home team.
“They have the right to talk I guess because they are two-nil up as of now.
“It’s funny in cricket, when you are on top you can say anything you want.
“It’s when the chips are down that you’ve got to stand up and say what you have to say and then go out there and prove it.
“When we played in India (last year) there was not so many words coming back from them which was very surprising.
“We are two-nil down here but we still took them on today and showed what we can do with the bat, which is the character of this Indian team.”
And while his feud with Johnson has a Test match and a bit, as well as a Carlton Mid ODI Series and a ICC Cricket World Cup to run in this Australian summer, Kohli also put on notice any team that might decide – having learned from today’s tactics – to play the silent card and not engage him in any on-field banter.
“Well you always have a few (players) that can’t keep calm in every team,” he smiled.

“So I have my targets.”

 

[Socnorb]

Drop in have only been used at the MCG since 1996.

Drop in's are always more docile, you can't reproduce exactly what it normally would be- This is why the 'Gabba refuses to do it. I don't think there is anything wrong with the pitch as it is. If both sides had fielded well and caught well then they wouldn't have such huge scores.

India let in 16 extras and dropped catches.

This game could easily be an Amazing Adelaide 2 from 2006.

I can understand the commercial reality of the drop in pitches . I can remember taking so much bark off on the centre square where the wicket is while playing footy in the winter, especially after the rain. They must be able to improve the wicket so there is an even contest between bat and ball. My concern is that there is too much emphasis on getting 5 days worth of gate reciepts guaranteed.
a repeat of amazing Adeladide has India wining in the last session of day 5.

 

[Socnorb]

In a refreshingly candid question and answer session that was as disarming as it will doubtlessly prove distasteful to his already bitter rivals, Kohli made no attempt to swathe his true feelings about some members of the Australian team in sport’s traditional diplomatic clichés.
“I respect quite a few of them but someone who doesn’t respect me I’ve got no reason to respect him,” Kohli said with an unflinching and incisive straightness that he had earlier shown with the cover drive that raised his third century of this Commonwealth Bank Series.
“It was going on throughout the day.
“They were calling me a spoiled brat and I said ‘maybe that’s the way I am, and I know you guys hate me’ … and it worked in my favour I guess.
“I like playing against Australia because it’s very hard for them to stay calm and I don’t mind an argument on the field.
“It really excites me and brings the best out of me, so they don’t seem to be learning their lesson.”

“I was really annoyed with him (Johnson) hitting me with the ball and I told him that’s not on – try and hit the stumps next time, not my body,” Kohli explained later, once more ignoring the accepted covenant that what happens on field stays there.


“I just backed myself,” Kohli replied when asked, as was posed to others during the Brisbane Test, if he was concerned that provoking Johnson might prove counter-productive.
“He was going at 4.7 (runs) per over today and didn’t get a wicket throughout the day, and I backed myself that I could take him on even if I keep talking to him.
“That’s important, you can’t then back off after saying a few words and not show it with your skill so I decided that whenever he comes on to bowl I was going to back myself and take him on.

“I don’t mind giving a word back and neither does he, so it kept going on.”


“Good for them,” Kohli responded when asked if he saw any undercurrent of over-confidence or conceit in the attitude of the home team.
“They have the right to talk I guess because they are two-nil up as of now.
“It’s funny in cricket, when you are on top you can say anything you want.
“It’s when the chips are down that you’ve got to stand up and say what you have to say and then go out there and prove it.
“When we played in India (last year) there was not so many words coming back from them which was very surprising.
“We are two-nil down here but we still took them on today and showed what we can do with the bat, which is the character of this Indian team.”
And while his feud with Johnson has a Test match and a bit, as well as a Carlton Mid ODI Series and a ICC Cricket World Cup to run in this Australian summer, Kohli also put on notice any team that might decide – having learned from today’s tactics – to play the silent card and not engage him in any on-field banter.
“Well you always have a few (players) that can’t keep calm in every team,” he smiled.

“So I have my targets.”

I don't blame Kohli for giving some . He looks a bit of a dick when he over does it as all player do. Contrary to what he says It does have a negative effect on his game, so I'd imagine there'll be little respite for him around the world.

 

[Sproj]

I have no problem with what Virat Hunt said as it was honest and I like that instead of the same bland cliched interviews we get so often. Out of all that, the best part is he doesn't seem to realize he actually struggled during that exchange, especially since if not for the dropped chance, he would have been out just a few balls later.

 

[1910]

I can understand the commercial reality of the drop in pitches . I can remember taking so much bark off on the centre square where the wicket is while playing footy in the winter, especially after the rain. They must be able to improve the wicket so there is an even contest between bat and ball. My concern is that there is too much emphasis on getting 5 days worth of gate reciepts guaranteed.
a repeat of amazing Adeladide has India wining in the last session of day 5.

I think you're overstating the unfairness of this pitch. Fact is on the whole bowling has been poor this Test, the pitch didn't dictate that. Harris got 4/70 he bowled well and he got wickets.

The scores being high doesn't mean the pitch has played a part. Sure it is not a green monster but if you bowl well like Harris you get great figures.

Either team can still win this half way through day four and if you've bowled well you get wickets- that's a good pitch.

Lyon might argue it would be nice if it broke up a bit more which is true but drop in's won't break up like normal pitches.

 

[1910]

1143 days since Watson took more than one wicket in an innings. 36 innings- 16 he's got one and 20 missed out altogether.

 

[Sproj]

So what exactly is he bringing the team at present?

 

[CaptainHook]

So what exactly is he bringing the team at present?

He brings talent and potential to the team.

 

[Socnorb]

1143 days since Watson took more than one wicket in an innings. 36 innings- 16 he's got one and 20 missed out altogether.

Usually good top order wickets.