NEWS Boyd’s Brutally Honest Assessment of Hellish Season

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As ive said before, stats in rugby league do not indicate how well a player is playing, althought a good measure of physical output.

Stats do not measure attitude or effort well. They do not take into consideration positions - ie that a 5/8 should be steering a team creating this and that and manipulating a game or the attack. They don't read that as fullback, he wasn't in position X amount of times or that he could have been in the right position. It wont tell you that his effectiveness is near blot as a play maker because every joe is able to stifle his line running and forces him to pass because he has no other option. Theres no measure on how many defenders hold off on his attack or how many become confused......Stats don't even measure choices vs pay cheque vs captaincy!

See where im going?
You know the funny thing about stats? A team like Melbourne which scores a lot of points quite correctly has great stats. So stats matter. What stats don't measure is prejudgement, prejudice, jealousy, pettiness, bias and agendas.

Years ago Steve Price was considered the best prop in the game and it turns out he had the best stats. Narrowly mind you but the best stats. In second place, by the tiniest margin was a prop who on this forum and in the view of the state of origin selection panel was shit, not good enough. The props who were third through tenth read like the a top ten should, their stats were all good and they were the talked about players.

My point is simple. People always trot out he line that stats mean nothing when it suits their narrative. In my example the stats were spot on for everyone in the top ten except one, the unfashionable prop who was number two. Then, in his case alone, apparently stats meant nothing.
 

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You know the funny thing about stats? A team like Melbourne which scores a lot of points quite correctly has great stats. So stats matter. What stats don't measure is prejudgement, prejudice, jealousy, pettiness, bias and agendas.

Years ago Steve Price was considered the best prop in the game and it turns out he had the best stats. Narrowly mind you but the best stats. In second place, by the tiniest margin was a prop who on this forum and in the view of the state of origin selection panel was shit, not good enough. The props who were third through tenth read like the a top ten should, their stats were all good and they were the talked about players.

My point is simple. People always trot out he line that stats mean nothing when it suits their narrative. In my example the stats were spot on for everyone in the top ten except one, the unfashionable prop who was number two. Then, in his case alone, apparently stats meant nothing.
But a prop plays a totally different position to a half or fullback...where stats cant be measured or reflect accurately of their performance... Comparing apples to potatos here, ones a fruit the other is a vegetable!
 

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But a prop plays a totally different position to a half or fullback...where stats cant be measured or reflect accurately of their performance... Comparing apples to potatos here, ones a fruit the other is a vegetable!
Oh lord! How can you miss the point so badly? It's either done deliberately or it's a more unpleasant explanation.
It has nothing to do with a comparison ffs.
 

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Not sure by whom it has been ignored but the stats are available at nrl.com.au as was indicated earlier in the thread.
Which of Boyd’s stats impressed you the most and how did they compare to other players in his position?
 
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Interesting to see that darius is 6th on kick return meters and ponga 22nd apparently.
Wasn't expecting that.
 
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Which of Boyd’s stats impressed you the most and how did they compare to other players in his position?
From https://www.nrl.com, just a sample size of the stats that matter.
Player (Games)TriesTry AssistsTackle BreaksLine BreaksAve. Run Metres
James Tedesco (15)10610516193.2
RTS (17)579713210.0
CNK (18)101777173.3
Kalyn Ponga (14)887212130.7
Jarome Hughes (16)78629132.5
Tom Trbojevic (7)573810197.6
Darius Boyd (18)26343103.5
Michael Gordon (11)31337100.6

Apart from try assists, I'd take the zippy 35yr old Mick Gordon over Boyd any day.
 
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Which of Boyd’s stats impressed you the most and how did they compare to other players in his position?
Already answered! Funny, you can see the rationalization, the bias and agenda driven thinking process in Tom's post. Sees a good stat, tries to find a way to minimize it.
 

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Five really good fullbacks above him teams are kicking too as well it seems.
All 5 of them are above him in tackle breaks and linebreaks. Probably explains that.
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Already answered! Funny, you can see the rationalization, the bias and agenda driven thinking process in Tom's post. Sees a good stat, tries to find a way to minimize it.
If he were going half as good as you think he is he wouldn't have been moved from his preferred position.
 
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Already answered! Funny, you can see the rationalization, the bias and agenda driven thinking process in Tom's post. Sees a good stat, tries to find a way to minimize it.
Please remind me. I must have missed it.
 
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I read somewhere on another forum (for supercoach) that Lodge is going to be captain next year. Is this fake news? I haven't read it anywhere else, but this bloke is a regular on the site. This would indicate that Boyd is on his way out, surely.
 
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To be fair, a lot of those metres were not kick returns. A lot of darius' metres were dummy half runs on the 4th tackle (which i think he took with the intention that he could provide a quicker play the ball for the kicker).
 

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Seems to do it more so when McCullough is at nine from memory not so much when turpin was starting.
 

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