Broncos Culture change

[GCBRONCO]

"Brisbane pretty much didn't want me," Boyd recalled as the best-on-ground medal glistened around his neck. "They said you can stay but we probably won't re-sign you when you're off contract.

Forgetting something GC?

I wasn't the one who quoted the article as being a solid indication that the Broncos didnt want him and then "forgot" to include the additional lines that pointed out it was more to do with salary cap restrictions then it was to retaining him.

 

[Big Pete]

If the Broncos wanted Boyd, they could've had him as indicated by the quote I posted.

From the sounds of it the Broncos were in no hurry to retain him, at least not as desperate as they were to hold onto Hunt.

 

[GCBRONCO]

If the Broncos wanted Boyd, they could've had him as indicated by the quote I posted.

From the sounds of it the Broncos were in no hurry to retain him, at least not as desperate as they were to hold onto Hunt.

That quote indicates nothing outside of speculation nor does it show us what Boyd was seeking to be re-signed nor does it show the room the Broncos had to work with considering the players that were also off contract needing to be re-signed or signed like Folau. Infact you could argue that if it was true and the Broncos weren't in a hurry to re-sign him then they weren't in a position financially to do so, not necessary because they didn't want him and thus didn't want to lead him along.

 

[Big Pete]

It gives us Darius Boyd's POV and it's better than Flutterby's purely speculative post.

Simply put if we wanted Darius as much as we wanted Hunt we would have set aside money. Instead we spent money on guys like Aaron Gorrell and Michael De Vere.

Found the article I was talking about...

"He came to me with tears in his eyes," Bennett said. "I said, 'What's happened' and he said, 'They don't want me'.

"I said to him, 'Don't worry about it, I'll take you with me ... I'd love you to come to the Dragons, so let's go and get it sorted out' and we did."

Sounds like he was pretty cut up about not being able to be a Bronco.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5886880240

 

[Black Philip]

**** me our management is fucking useless [icon_non

 

[GCBRONCO]

"It was hard to hear that but that's what happens these days. there's the salary cap and you can't fit everyone under it.

"At the time I was hurting, but there's no hard feelings at all towards them. The Broncos had signed Israel Folau and everyone knows what a great player he is. Someone had to go and unfortunately I was one of them.

One minute his crying to Bennett about having to leave the club because the "broncos dont want him" the next his saying it was due to salary cap restraints and although tough he understands. Sorry mate but it hasn't changed my belief his departure was salary cap related not purely because the Broncos didn't want him, just like it was with Gillmeister and other high profile players over the years that have had to leave cause of salary cap restraints, just cause they don't re-sign them doesn't mean they don't want them.

Michael Devere wasn't signed nor chased by the Broncos until after Boyd's departure and even then the Broncos had to do some work with the salary cap just to fit him in(indicating they didn't have a lot of room to work with, which kind of contradicts the arguement they had plenty to put aside and still go after Hunt and Folau) and they do so as a shortterm fit to the backline, as for Gorrell getting rid of him would have meant we would have to replace him with a similarly priced player.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/b ... 1118058821

 

[nopatience101]

Boyd was advised that if he could get a long term deal elsewhere he should take it, as was Stagg.

 

[Big Pete]

GC - I'm sure the salary cap. played a factor but if Boyd was of any importance to the Broncos he would have been retained. Judging from the article I posted Boyd had another year to go on his pre-existing deal and could have been retained for that year but the club was upfront about his future beyond that. Now you can't tell me the club couldn't of made room for him of 12 months.

Not to mention, Steve Michaels was retained that year, if Boyd was AS important as Karmichael was how come Steve Michaels was preferred over him?

The Broncos had a chance to be retain him, it sounds like he would have preferred to of stayed here if he's going up to Wayne with tears in his eyes sobbing 'they don't want me' but simply we decided to look at other options such as Folau and Michaels.

Put simply, Boyd was a discard from the club Bennett wisely picked up and nurtured into one of the game's best fullbacks. Good on him I say, but that isn't the same as Bennett having a choice of the litter and going with Boyd.

EDIT: np - as was Moon and Eastwood as well weren't they? Albeit Eastwood was offered a hell of a deal.

 

[pennywisealfie]

Not to mention, Steve Michaels was retained that year, if Boyd was AS important as Karmichael was how come Steve Michaels was preferred over him?

word. **** steve michaels so hard. it was so plain to see darius was better.

 

[Flutterby]

Because we all know the media never puts an incorrect spin on things. :roll:

As for my "pure speculation" - comes from several of the current players. The basic gist being that WB was pretty sure the Broncos would have cap issues and not be able to retain everyone so he put the idea in DB's head in the first place to go with him to the Dragons. Yes the tears came - when Bennett put it in his head that some players would have to go, so he may as well start looking after himself. No-one has ever mentioned he had any kind of similar conversation with Karmichael Hunt.

 

[Big Pete]

Not to mention, Steve Michaels was retained that year, if Boyd was AS important as Karmichael was how come Steve Michaels was preferred over him?

word. **** steve michaels so hard. it was so plain to see darius was better.

The funny thing is at the time Boyd was still something of a scapegoat and Michaels was seen as the one with potential to do greater things.

The club should have been more perceptive and seen the improvement in Boyd's game and figured that a centre with a bung knee wouldn't be worth keeping around.

FB - Ah the old non-sourced argument, well played sir.

 

[Flutterby]

FB - Ah the old non-sourced argument, well played sir.

I am sorry that my personal conversations with people are not in print anywhere in the media for me to "direct quote" them with a link on here for you - I've put what I've been personally told, it's up to you (and others) whether you choose to believe me or not.

 

[Big Pete]

It's quite a stretch to believe, just to suit your argument.

 

[Aeetee]

Its not a stretch Pete. Most Admins and Mods here have had some if not a lot of contact with players, either directly or through 3 parties. Its quite a stretch for you NOT to believe her to suit your argument. Goes both ways. And from past situations where the club has said one thing and done another its not that much or a stretch.

Boyd was shattered after the Toilet incident. The club was in 2 minds about a lot of stuff. Bennett went, Boyd followed, end of chapter.

 

[Big Pete]

Boyd was shafted before the toilet incident.

The thing is there's two testimonies here that dispute Flutt's claims, from both horses mouths.

 

[DIEHARD]

The most hurtful thing would be that he has stopped being a Broncos fan as well. To me that is a serious statement.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Re: Re: Broncos Culture change

The most hurtful thing would be that he has stopped being a Broncos fan as well. To me that is a serious statement.

Not really. He has always been a big fan of himself first and foremost

 

[Kaz]

The thing is there's two testimonies here that dispute Flutt's claims, from both horses mouths.

The DT & Boyd. [icon_lol1.