Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2021

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In his limited opportunities so far, he has shown more than Flegler, Asiata and is on par with Lodge, Carrigan and Bullemor. He is well worth keeping considering his price tag as well.

I think Lodge and Bulli have been better, and Pat’s workload has been good, it’s just his effectiveness that’s lacking a bit. Completely agree about Kennedy being good value for money though.

I think this last game was one of his worst performances but to be fair the game was long over by the time he got on. Missed 4/11 tackles, had a bad dropped ball:
 
I think Lodge and Bulli have been better, and Pat’s workload has been good, it’s just his effectiveness that’s lacking a bit. Completely agree about Kennedy being good value for money though.

I think this last game was one of his worst performances but to be fair the game was long over by the time he got on. Missed 4/11 tackles, had a bad dropped ball:
Yes, 20 behind and both teams had handling problems. Pretty sure it was tough to hold the sweat soaked ball for everyone.
 
The conversation started when I ran through a number of signings Walters made and how uninspiring it was. That post was cherry-picked by another poster which you then jumped on board with so I at least pointed out where I felt he was poor. The response was then that he 'sparked us' which clearly didn't happen.

However the main point was Kevie's poor track record as it stands.
OK, I can see arguing with you will get me nowhere, so I will ask you one simple question.

If you’re not trying to scapegoat him, what does the team conceding 18 points (like we have more often than not for the last 2 years) have to do with him not sparking us?
 
OK, I can see arguing with you will get me nowhere, so I will ask you one simple question.

If you’re not trying to scapegoat him, what does the team conceding 18 points (like we have more often than not for the last 2 years) have to do with him not sparking us?

Bra, Levi didn’t spark anything. He was terrible. He had a few damaging runs out of dummy half but mostly he tackled ineffectively, made poor errors, and offloaded into his own face - something I’ve never seen before and wasn’t aware was possible. It all fell to shit after that moment and the huge run Eels made off of that error turned momentum entirely. It’s not all on Danny and you could forgive him given the rushed nature of his call up, but there sure as hell was no spark about his performance.
 
Bra, Levi didn’t spark anything. He was terrible. He had a few damaging runs out of dummy half but mostly he tackled ineffectively, made poor errors, and offloaded into his own face - something I’ve never seen before and wasn’t aware was possible. It all fell to shit after that moment and the huge run Eels made off of that error turned momentum entirely. It’s not all on Danny and you could forgive him given the rushed nature of his call up, but there sure as hell was no spark about his performance.
thing is turpin and levi are different hookers of course when Danny comes on the middle isn't gonna be as tight, but at the same time when jakes on there's no energy or real speed from dummy half. Danny brought speed and crisp passes but lacked game awareness. So yes he did bring "spark' but failed to capitalize on the good things he did.
 
Bra, Levi didn’t spark anything. He was terrible. He had a few damaging runs out of dummy half but mostly he tackled ineffectively, made poor errors, and offloaded into his own face - something I’ve never seen before and wasn’t aware was possible. It all fell to shit after that moment and the huge run Eels made off of that error turned momentum entirely. It’s not all on Danny and you could forgive him given the rushed nature of his call up, but there sure as hell was no spark about his performance.
Thrown into a game like that without full conditioning with the team he needed to play with, with a weeks notice. I have no issues with his game.
 
thing is turpin and levi are different hookers of course when Danny comes on the middle isn't gonna be as tight, but at the same time when jakes on there's no energy or real speed from dummy half. Danny brought speed and crisp passes but lacked game awareness. So yes he did bring "spark' but failed to capitalize on the good things he did.
Well, I think the actual expression Big Pete is arguing was “sparked the team” but I couldn’t be bothered going back and checking. I don’t think you can say anyone sparked a team if the team conceded 40 unanswered points from the moment that player came on. That’s not assigning blame to any one player but it definitely doesn’t show that anyone sparked anything. Levi had a few good dummy half darts that ultimately amounted to nothing.

It was a very Levi performance to be frank. Some decent moments and some ability on show but over shadowed by errors, poor choices, and selfish plays - which is why a guy of his natural ability can’t hold down a job. He reminds me a bit of a hooker Isaako.
 
Thrown into a game like that without full conditioning with the team he needed to play with, with a weeks notice. I have no issues with his game.

I have no issues either and I think we desperately needed a back up hooker to help Turpin. I wouldn’t want to see to many more performances from Levi or the team that we did on the weekend though, or we may be better off just making Turpin play the whole 80.

I definitely agree that he deserves benefit of the doubt due to the short lead up to his debut with the club but as I said in my above post, it was actually a very typical Levi performance - ask any manly or knights fan.
 
I have no issues either and I think we desperately needed a back up hooker to help Turpin. I wouldn’t want to see to many more performances from Levi or the team that we did on the weekend though, or we may be better off just making Turpin play the whole 80.

I definitely agree that he deserves benefit of the doubt due to the short lead up to his debut with the club but as I said in my above post, it was actually a very typical Levi performance - ask any manly or knights fan.
Yup agreed, those fans are loving it atm
 
Well, I think the actual expression Big Pete is arguing was “sparked the team” but I couldn’t be bothered going back and checking. I don’t think you can say anyone sparked a team if the team conceded 40 unanswered points from the moment that player came on. That’s not assigning blame to any one player but it definitely doesn’t show that anyone sparked anything. Levi had a few good dummy half darts that ultimately amounted to nothing.

It was a very Levi performance to be frank. Some decent moments and some ability on show but over shadowed by errors, poor choices, and selfish plays - which is why a guy of his natural ability can’t hold down a job. He reminds me a bit of a hooker Isaako.
yer agree with you, id like to see how he goes in a good temperature and us having a bit of momentum in the game, kinda do what Melbourne do with smith and grant, obviously miles apart on skill though
 
yer agree with you, id like to see how he goes in a good temperature and us having a bit of momentum in the game, kinda do what Melbourne do with smith and grant, obviously miles apart on skill though

I think we did have momentum when he came on. Not that it’s all on his shoulders but I think the game goes very differently if he holds onto the ball after that run instead of the self inflicted falcon.
 
This is a problem for us. We have loads of money but not really many available and willing to come this off season. We’re going to have to get creative and hope we can land a couple of big names off contract for 23 and hope somehow we can get them to the club early. And the only player who will change everything is Grant, we need to offer him up to 1.5 million.
Offer him $5M & Haas $2.5M and fill the squad with the leftover money.
 
Well, I think the actual expression Big Pete is arguing was “sparked the team” but I couldn’t be bothered going back and checking. I don’t think you can say anyone sparked a team if the team conceded 40 unanswered points from the moment that player came on. That’s not assigning blame to any one player but it definitely doesn’t show that anyone sparked anything. Levi had a few good dummy half darts that ultimately amounted to nothing.

It was a very Levi performance to be frank. Some decent moments and some ability on show but over shadowed by errors, poor choices, and selfish plays - which is why a guy of his natural ability can’t hold down a job. He reminds me a bit of a hooker Isaako.
I actually thought Turpin had his best start to a game since round 1. Maybe Kevvie was wanting Levi to run as much as possible to show Turpin a dummy half can do more than just pass one out.
 
Bra, Levi didn’t spark anything. He was terrible. He had a few damaging runs out of dummy half but mostly he tackled ineffectively, made poor errors, and offloaded into his own face - something I’ve never seen before and wasn’t aware was possible. It all fell to shit after that moment and the huge run Eels made off of that error turned momentum entirely. It’s not all on Danny and you could forgive him given the rushed nature of his call up, but there sure as hell was no spark about his performance.

Well, I think the actual expression Big Pete is arguing was “sparked the team” but I couldn’t be bothered going back and checking. I don’t think you can say anyone sparked a team if the team conceded 40 unanswered points from the moment that player came on. That’s not assigning blame to any one player but it definitely doesn’t show that anyone sparked anything. Levi had a few good dummy half darts that ultimately amounted to nothing.

It was a very Levi performance to be frank. Some decent moments and some ability on show but over shadowed by errors, poor choices, and selfish plays - which is why a guy of his natural ability can’t hold down a job. He reminds me a bit of a hooker Isaako.
Well I suggest you do go back and check, as you’re attributing a statement to me that I never made.

Big Pete declared his debut as the worst in Broncos history and went on to lay the blame for the 18 points squarely on Levi. If that’s not what he was alluding to, well he worded it incredibly poorly.

He has since gone on to try and suggest his statement is somehow arguing Levi didn’t provide spark and has nothing to do with scapegoating him for the teams performance, hence why I asked what the 18 points conceded had to do with him not providing spark.

FWIW, I don’t think Levi was anywhere near a standout, but equally, nor do I believe he was so terrible as to suggest it was the worst debut in club history. I do also agree he looked far more likely, in a yet another fucking awful team performance (hence my earlier criticism of our 1, 6, 7 and starting 9), to create something than Turpin.
 
Well I suggest you do go back and check, as you’re attributing a statement to me that I never made.

Big Pete declared his debut as the worst in Broncos history and went on to lay the blame for the 18 points squarely on Levi. If that’s not what he was alluding to, well he worded it incredibly poorly.

He has since gone on to try and suggest his statement is somehow arguing Levi didn’t provide spark and has nothing to do with scapegoating him for the teams performance, hence why I asked what the 18 points conceded had to do with him not providing spark.

FWIW, I don’t think Levi was anywhere near a standout, but equally, nor do I believe he was so terrible as to suggest it was the worst debut in club history. I do also agree he looked far more likely, in a yet another fucking awful team performance (hence my earlier criticism of our 1, 6, 7 and starting 9), to create something than Turpin.
As far as I can tell the sparked war started over Huge’s use of the word, not you but maybe i didn’t go far enough back into the thread.
 
****, what the hell has Kennedy done wrong? He hasn't had much of a chance in my opinion. Certainly not since KWs been in town. I think Badel made up 90% of this.
I'm with you mate. I think Kennedy is the sort of player Melbourne would turn into a hard as rock forward that could potentially play Origin. He needs more of a go for me. Only had limited opportunities but goes well.
 
Bra, Levi didn’t spark anything. He was terrible. He had a few damaging runs out of dummy half but mostly he tackled ineffectively, made poor errors, and offloaded into his own face - something I’ve never seen before and wasn’t aware was possible. It all fell to shit after that moment and the huge run Eels made off of that error turned momentum entirely. It’s not all on Danny and you could forgive him given the rushed nature of his call up, but there sure as hell was no spark about his performance.
Mahonoey only made a few runs from dummy half but he had either his FB or HB on his hip. Levi is a great pick up if he keeps doing that at choice times in the game and has someone follow him. Same as Hass, TPJ with support awesome things will happen. Levi was looking for a support player when he bombed that try.
 
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