Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2021

[Big Pete]

This has to be right up there with the best scapegoating ever seen on here, fair dinkum.

Never mind our fullback did nothing all game, same as both our halves and our starting hooker, and that our defence has been terrible for 2+ years (I mean, we conceded a try last night after the first 4 tackles). No, let’s pin the 3 tries before halftime on the bloke who literally only trained a couple of sessions with the team (so hasn’t had the chance to learn that 9 times out of 10, if you’re a Bronco and you make a break, you are on your own), hasn’t played under the new rules and quite simply made a stupid error trying to manufacture points.

I suppose conceding back to back to back (to back) tries was also his fault against the Eels in round 1, the Titans and the Storm?

Where did I blame him entirely for the performance? Again, I'm contesting the call that he 'sparked' the team when the opposite clearly happened.

 

[MrMoore]

This has to be right up there with the best scapegoating ever seen on here, fair dinkum.

Never mind our fullback did nothing all game, same as both our halves and our starting hooker, and that our defence has been terrible for 2+ years (I mean, we conceded a try last night after the first 4 tackles). No, let’s pin the 3 tries before halftime on the bloke who literally only trained a couple of sessions with the team (so hasn’t had the chance to learn that 9 times out of 10, if you’re a Bronco and you make a break, you are on your own), hasn’t played under the new rules and quite simply made a stupid error trying to manufacture points.

I suppose conceding back to back to back (to back) tries was also his fault against the Eels in round 1, the Titans and the Storm?

Damn straight!, I'm with you mate......well not really, I am just trying to add fuel to the fire.....BHQ arguments are more entertaining then the current team.....so go at it!

 

[WASSHHH]

Where did I blame him entirely for the performance? Again, I'm contesting the call that he 'sparked' the team when the opposite clearly happened.

Levi had one of the worst debuts in club history right alongside James Gavet.

Levi cruelled whatever momentum the Broncos had with the worst play possible in that situation, his defence in the middle was poor and his service was nothing to write home about.

So yeah, the worst debut in club history which culminated in one of the worst losses in club history.

6 all and as soon as he came on the Broncos conceded 18 points.

He sure sparked the Broncos alright.

Sure, but nobody is claiming they 'sparked' the team.

They also didn't throw the ball into their own face with the line begging.

This whole conversation started because you cherrypicked Levi for special criticism via what I still can’t believe isn’t hyperbole.

You then went on to double and triple down on your criticism of him, even inferring (by way of a suggestive coincidence) that he was responsible for the 18 points conceded straight after he came on, which took momentum off us and snuffed out any chance we had.

However, as I have already pointed out, the 18 points (or more) conceded in under 10 mins is nothing new for this team. Indeed, it’s par for the course, so I have no idea what relevance that has when discussing Levi’s performance.

So if you want to split hairs and try to have everyone believe you weren’t suggesting he was directly responsible for us falling in a heap last night, good luck. But I’m not buying it.

 

[Big Pete]

This whole conversation started because you cherrypicked Levi for special criticism via what I still can’t believe isn’t hyperbole.

You then went on to double and triple down on your criticism of him, including inferring the 18 points conceded straight after he came on took momentum off us and snuffed out any chance we had.

However, as I have already pointed out, the 18 points conceded in under 10 mins is nothing new for this team. Indeed, it’s par for the course, so I have no idea what relevance that has when discussing Levi’s performance.

So if you want to split hairs and try to have everyone believe you weren’t suggesting he was directly responsible for us falling in a heap last night, good luck. But I’m not buying it.

The conversation started when I ran through a number of signings Walters made and how uninspiring it was. That post was cherry-picked by another poster which you then jumped on board with so I at least pointed out where I felt he was poor. The response was then that he 'sparked us' which clearly didn't happen.

However the main point was Kevie's poor track record as it stands.

 

[Xzei]

Would be pretty naive to think all the problems are going to be solved in an offseason and to think that any superstar signings are going to be made with our cap the way it is,all walters could do is bring in some players on cheap one year deals untill he has an idea on who he wants to keep you would think?atleast thats my thought on it.

 

[Huge]

Where did I blame him entirely for the performance? Again, I'm contesting the call that he 'sparked' the team when the opposite clearly happened.

No, that's you just being cowardly and refusing to pull your idiotic claim that it 'was the worst debut in club history'. It's classic evasion and a typical refusal to accept you might have been, wrong.

 

[Big Pete]

Would be pretty naive to think all the problems are going to be solved in an offseason and to think that any superstar signings are going to be made with our cap the way it is,all walters could do is bring in some players on cheap one year deals untill he has an idea on who he wants to keep you would think?atleast thats my thought on it.

If the Broncos were in a similar position as the Bulldogs I'd be more lenient. At least in their case we know they're bringing in more quality players in the following year, so far the one big signing Kevie has made can barely get any game time. The rest have done little to help turn the club around and the players being linked to the club do little to help the team.

It's not like he's hamstrung next season, the Broncos have a lot of space to work with and it appears the majority of it is going to re-sign players who are already here.

No, that's you just being cowardly and refusing to pull your idiotic claim that it 'was the worst debut in club history'. It's classic evasion and a typical refusal to accept you might have been, wrong.

So far your argument has been that he sparked the team when that clearly didn't happen. I would reconsider my position if you could bring up some 'better' candidates but he certainly belongs in the conversation.

 

[Xzei]

If the Broncos were in a similar position as the Bulldogs I'd be more lenient. At least in their case we know they're bringing in more quality players in the following year, so far the one big signing Kevie has made can barely get any game time. The rest have done little to help turn the club around and the players being linked to the club do little to help the team.

It's not like he's hamstrung next season, the Broncos have a lot of space to work with and it appears the majority of it is going to re-sign players who are already here.

So far your argument has been that he sparked the team when that clearly didn't happen. I would reconsider my position if you could bring up some 'better' candidates but he certainly belongs in the conversation.

Who realistically is available next year that is going to improve the side?
Reynolds is unlikely to leave sydney
Moses is more likely to stay at parra
Shaun johnson is really the only half worth chasing
Id maybe make enquiries about dufty for milford

 

[Huge]

If the Broncos were in a similar position as the Bulldogs I'd be more lenient. At least in their case we know they're bringing in more quality players in the following year, so far the one big signing Kevie has made can barely get any game time. The rest have done little to help turn the club around and the players being linked to the club do little to help the team.

It's not like he's hamstrung next season, the Broncos have a lot of space to work with and it appears the majority of it is going to re-sign players who are already here.

So far your argument has been that he sparked the team when that clearly didn't happen. I would reconsider my position if you could bring up some 'better' candidates but he certainly belongs in the conversation.

Sparking the team can also be an intermittent thing and that's what I meant. He added spark but you appear to be blinded by bias. Why the **** do I need to provide better candidates, I'm not the one putting shit on a single player. It's your claim which sticks in the craw. Mind you, you tried to blame him for 'one of the worst defeats in club history' when the defeat isn't in the top ten!!!

It's this over the top bullshit that I object to, it's lies to support a shit position. You know, like your claim about one of the worst defeats, a straight out exaggeration you think gives weight to a stupid claim that you lack the humility to admit might have been wrong.

 

[Big Pete]

Sparking the team can also be an intermittent thing and that's what I meant. He added spark but you appear to be blinded by bias. Why the **** do I need to provide better candidates, I'm not the one putting shit on a single player. It's your claim which sticks in the craw. Mind you, you tried to blame him for 'one of the worst defeats in club history' when the defeat isn't in the top ten!!!

It's this over the top bullshit that I object to, it's lies to support a shit position. You know, like your claim about one of the worst defeats, a straight out exaggeration you think gives weight to a stupid claim that you lack the humility to admit might have been wrong.

Typically when somebody makes that observation they're referring to the influence they have on the game or their team mates. You've yet to explain how he actually 'sparked' the team.

Again if you can actually make a compelling argument I would be willing to engage but this just seems like another one of your episodes so I'll leave you to it.

 

[broncos4life]

If the Broncos were in a similar position as the Bulldogs I'd be more lenient. At least in their case we know they're bringing in more quality players in the following year, so far the one big signing Kevie has made can barely get any game time. The rest have done little to help turn the club around and the players being linked to the club do little to help the team.

It's not like he's hamstrung next season, the Broncos have a lot of space to work with and it appears the majority of it is going to re-sign players who are already here.

So far your argument has been that he sparked the team when that clearly didn't happen. I would reconsider my position if you could bring up some 'better' candidates but he certainly belongs in the conversation.

I think it is pretty clear that they aren’t making any big signings until DD is here, is the Storm imposed waiting period for DD’s start date Kevvie’s fault too?

 

[Sproj]

Who realistically is available next year that is going to improve the side?
Reynolds is unlikely to leave sydney
Moses is more likely to stay at parra
Shaun johnson is really the only half worth chasing
Id maybe make enquiries about dufty for milford

This is a problem for us. We have loads of money but not really many available and willing to come this off season. We’re going to have to get creative and hope we can land a couple of big names off contract for 23 and hope somehow we can get them to the club early. And the only player who will change everything is Grant, we need to offer him up to 1.5 million.

 

[Morepudding]

****BADEL WARNING****
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From the Courier Mail:

• Just 11 players will survive to be part of our top 30 next season​
• we have 13 players off contract​
• of those 13, only 4 will be safe for next year (Nui, Staggs, Coates, Dearden)​
• we will have more than $3 million to spend​
• the following contracted players need to lift their game or risk being axed/offloaded under subsidized deals: Matt Lodge, Corey Oates, Tom Flegler, Richie Kennar and Rhys Kennedy.​
• Croft, who is on 450k must left or face being moved on (sounds like at the end of his deal, which has another year to run)​
• Kevvie is pleased with the progress of Pat Carrigan, Herbie Farnworth, Jamayne Isaako, Ethan Bullemor and Jake Turpin​
• We're in talks with Adam Reynolds​

Kevvie quotes (reference to a roster review):

“I am doing that, definitely,” Walters said.

“A little bit has to happen for us to do what we want to do with this roster.

“We have played some good teams so far this season and I now have a fair idea in my head of what I want to do, who I want to keep, and I’m working towards that over the next month or so.”

Kevvie quotes (on current roster):

“I’m more than happy to be working with the current roster we have and it’s my job to get some more improvement out of the players,” he said.

“The roster in every organisation is a work in progress.

“Some rosters are more stable than others but everyone is always looking to improve their rosters and we’re the same.”

Badel's roster summary

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It’s concerning that cardigan is safe. They definitely need him to lift and run harder. He just walks up to the line. You can tell half our team played union before league because they are always flat and never have a big run up.

 

[Huge]

****, what the hell has Kennedy done wrong? He hasn't had much of a chance in my opinion. Certainly not since KWs been in town. I think Badel made up 90% of this.

 

[Painin the Haas]

It’s concerning that cardigan is safe. They definitely need him to lift and run harder. He just walks up to the line. You can tell half our team played union before league because they are always flat and never have a big run up.

Carrigan is the least of our problems. He is young, has shown more promise with his consistency, has been labelled a young leader and is on a good price compared to those around him. The whole team needs to lift, Carrigan included, but his spot should definitely be safe

 

[Painin the Haas]

****, what the hell has Kennedy done wrong? He hasn't had much of a chance in my opinion. Certainly not since KWs been in town. I think Badel made up 90% of this.

He’s probably on notice but has an easier path to retention than the others on the list

 

[Huge]

He’s probably on notice but has an easier path to retention than the others on the list

Yeah, that makes sense. The way he's played so far though tells me he's well aware of the need to do a good job. I'd like to see him get 30-40 minutes a match in two stints.

 

[Sproj]

Yeah, that makes sense. The way he's played so far though tells me he's well aware of the need to do a good job. I'd like to see him get 30-40 minutes a match in two stints.

In his limited opportunities so far, he has shown more than Flegler, Asiata and is on par with Lodge, Carrigan and Bullemor. He is well worth keeping considering his price tag as well.