Broncos Roster, Signings and Rumours Discussion 2021

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3rd party payments is the one area where we have much more available then any other club in the competition, why not?

A club like the sharks who for a big chunk of the last decade haven't even had a title sponsor on the jersey is going to struggle to bring anything on that table.

we still have to abide by the rules. TPA's that don't count under the cap can't be used as an inducement to play for a particular club. not much grey in that rule to be able to exploit
 
we still have to abide by the rules. TPA's that don't count under the cap can't be used as an inducement to play for a particular club. not much grey in that rule to be able to exploit
Do we have any figure on who currently in our club is getting TPA's?

So essentially your saying we need to put pen to paper with Reynolds before a word about TPA's can be discussed?

Given he would likely be captain and the face of the team i'm sure he will be told about it by his manager anyway.
 
Do we have any figure on who currently in our club is getting TPA's?

So essentially your saying we need to put pen to paper with Reynolds before a word about TPA's can be discussed?

Given he would likely be captain and the face of the team i'm sure he will be told about it by his manager anyway.

the NRL released this in December 2019. it shows that the Storm players receive more than double the amount of money (approx 800K a year) than our players receive. we come in second

after 2020, who knows how much our players receive

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After Reynolds injured his thumb, they were saying 4-6 weeks and I thought that's a pretty long lay-off for a thumb injury... Said to myself it wouldn't surprise me if he just doesn't want to risk injuring himself playing for a team who doesn't want him when his future is still up in the air and he could use the 'injured' time to get a deal done somewhere else. I even thought Wayne would probably have been part of such a scheme and encouraged it given his view on Reynolds.

Well, now Reynolds making a miraculous early return... Seems like during this break he did finalise his future and we're in the 10 days now pre-announcement, as Sproj Sproj and others have pointed out.
 
Drew Hutchinson is worth a look in at 5/8. Could be a cheapie due to his recent injury and the halves depth at the Roosters means they'll probably offload him.
 
My targets in order of priority.
1. walker
2. Papanhuzen
3. Reynolds

All three off contract end of this year as far as I know. Walker is younger and has killed it so far. In a couple more years he will be a superstar.
Papa is already a superstar so let’s go very hard for him. At worst make storm pay more. If we can’t get walker get reynolds.
 
My targets in order of priority.
1. walker
2. Papanhuzen
3. Reynolds

All three off contract end of this year as far as I know. Walker is younger and has killed it so far. In a couple more years he will be a superstar.
Papa is already a superstar so let’s go very hard for him. At worst make storm pay more. If we can’t get walker get reynolds.
Papenhuyzens not, Walker would be shit if he played for us. Talented but even with all the injuries he has stacked outside backs and a good forward pack behind him. Only one their that is gettable and would do something for our club is Reynolds. He is probably the only player on the market that would revolutionise this team. He is such a big signing that in my opinion the 4th year is worth it to get him to Brisbane just because of how much better our team will be as a result of it.
 
A quick question about third party sponsors. I know the club can’t be involved or it’s counted on the cap but if for example businessmen in Brisbane thought that a marque player - for example Reynolds, would be a great brand ambassador for them, are the allowed to contact him prior to signing just to let him know?

What I mean is, is there anything preventing a big Brisbane car dealership who has seen the Reynolds and Broncos contract negotiations play out in the media, from calling Adam or his manager and saying “we’re big fans and would love you to be a part of our marketing if you do find yourself in Brisbane. If you do sign, let us know and we can discuss further. Our usual starting price is around $50k per year”

??
Plus those neck tats are a winner with all the Mums and Dads out there! It's every parents dream to see a heavily tatooed fine young gentleman rock up to the door when picking up their tender young daughter. 😳
 
My targets in order of priority.
1. walker
2. Papanhuzen
3. Reynolds

All three off contract end of this year as far as I know. Walker is younger and has killed it so far. In a couple more years he will be a superstar.
Papa is already a superstar so let’s go very hard for him. At worst make storm pay more. If we can’t get walker get reynolds.

go in that order we'll get none of them
 
Plus those neck tats are a winner with all the Mums and Dads out there! It's every parents dream to see a heavily tatooed fine young gentleman rock up to the door when picking up their tender young daughter. 😳
His wife and kids would be pretty disappointed by that.
 
Now I understand where Gus is coming from with the Broncos junior model. I was under the impression the Broncos were still signing 30 U/20 players but they happened to be with Norths, Souths and Wynum.

The article is not completely accurate. It paints the picture that the Broncos only have three U/20s players in TC Robati, Selwyn Cobbo and Xavier Willison on deals outside the NRL when we know that Josh James is also a part of that group and I'd imagine there'd be a few others. Either way, I doubt it's more than a dozen and if that's the case then it's a huge issue.

Scanlen tries to argue that the Broncos have an impressive strike record but a lot of those talents he's trumped up were can't miss players. There still needs to be room for players like a Nick Kenny type who may not be a stand out but eventually becomes a valuable squad player.

I hope this is an area Donaghy address' right away. It's honestly an area where the Broncos should have been a lot better in. I agree with 1910's assessment that Brisbane's junior recruitment has always been strong, but their ability to turn them into quality U/20s and then into quality NRL players has been lacking ever since Hook was promoted. Brisbane should have been among the strongest NYC teams year in year out during the 10 years the competition existed, instead they really only had two good groups. To me it suggests they don't have the right people looking after that system.

I don't think Brisbane are the type of club that can just get by on NRL recruitment either. It's too expensive to up-root a bunch of Sydney players and get them to perform to a satisfactory standard. They need to bring these players through and make sure they're getting a better Rugby League education than any other team to really prosper. Signing good talent is only one piece of that puzzle, they have to be educated and they can't just be thrown into the deep end like Tom Dearden, Tesi Niu and Xavier Coates were.

The scary thing is, Brisbane are only just starting to feel the ramifications of this. We're just starting to get into that generation where the post-NYC players are coming of age.
 
Now I understand where Gus is coming from with the Broncos junior model. I was under the impression the Broncos were still signing 30 U/20 players but they happened to be with Norths, Souths and Wynum.

The article is not completely accurate. It paints the picture that the Broncos only have three U/20s players in TC Robati, Selwyn Cobbo and Xavier Willison on deals outside the NRL when we know that Josh James is also a part of that group and I'd imagine there'd be a few others. Either way, I doubt it's more than a dozen and if that's the case then it's a huge issue.

Scanlen tries to argue that the Broncos have an impressive strike record but a lot of those talents he's trumped up were can't miss players. There still needs to be room for players like a Nick Kenny type who may not be a stand out but eventually becomes a valuable squad player.

I hope this is an area Donaghy address' right away. It's honestly an area where the Broncos should have been a lot better in. I agree with 1910's assessment that Brisbane's junior recruitment has always been strong, but their ability to turn them into quality U/20s and then into quality NRL players has been lacking ever since Hook was promoted. Brisbane should have been among the strongest NYC teams year in year out during the 10 years the competition existed, instead they really only had two good groups. To me it suggests they don't have the right people looking after that system.

I don't think Brisbane are the type of club that can just get by on NRL recruitment either. It's too expensive to up-root a bunch of Sydney players and get them to perform to a satisfactory standard. They need to bring these players through and make sure they're getting a better Rugby League education than any other team to really prosper. Signing good talent is only one piece of that puzzle, they have to be educated and they can't just be thrown into the deep end like Tom Dearden, Tesi Niu and Xavier Coates were.

The scary thing is, Brisbane are only just starting to feel the ramifications of this. We're just starting to get into that generation where the post-NYC players are coming of age.
There’s not much point having a squad of 30 u20 players when you only have an nrl squad of 30 and ideally a turnover of a handful at best each season. You would end up losing the majority of them to other clubs because there isn’t any spot available for them.
 
the NRL released this in December 2019. it shows that the Storm players receive more than double the amount of money (approx 800K a year) than our players receive. we come in second

after 2020, who knows how much our players receive

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Pretty sure an article around that time said the vast majority of the storm's was associated with CS9... whereas ours was more widespread.
 
The question is whether Reynolds wants the mountain of pressure and scrutiny he’ll be under as halfback and potential captain of the broncos.
That’s true but I reckon he knows he can handle the pressure and would love the gig
 
There’s not much point having a squad of 30 u20 players when you only have an nrl squad of 30 and ideally a turnover of a handful at best each season. You would end up losing the majority of them to other clubs because there isn’t any spot available for them.
That doesn't seem to bother the Sydney clubs. The key difference is that the club would be having a hands on role with these players as opposed to leaving Norths, Souths and Wynnum to do all the heavy lifting and playing catch up.
 
That doesn't seem to bother the Sydney clubs. The key difference is that the club would be having a hands on role with these players as opposed to leaving Norths, Souths and Wynnum to do all the heavy lifting and playing catch up.
Sydney clubs have teams they have to fill, Brisbane don’t, and if they did these qld cup teams would suffer. Some of these kids have been identified by the club and put on scholarship as young as 13-14yrs old and come through their EPD program. It takes money, time & resources, I wouldn’t say they are leaving all the heavy lifting up to their affiliates, but they need teams to play in.
 
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