Carlton Mid One-Day International Tri-Series

[1910]

Marsh back from injury and playing for Wests this week. CA wanted him to play in Sydney and Wests won the ballot.

 

[1910]

I find all this sledging controversy throughout this summer completely stupid and just bizarre. Sledging is a part of cricket and always has been. I could understand complaints about it if the sledging was just personal attacks, racist insults and the like but nobody seems to have crossed the line with anything throughout the whole summer. I just read the story and Warner said 'speak English' because Sharma was speaking in Hindi.

Will Warner be learning the 122 languages spoken in India for when he is next there?

Warner was wrong, Rohit didn't even touch. Warner looked like a goose going off and yelling in people's face when wrong.

 

[Mister Wright]

Sledging is awesome, and I love it. It should be humourous and mean something. Sledging is not when players stand 30cm away from each other and shirt-front each other Tony Abbott style. Nothing frustrates me more when people confuse abuse with sledging. I hate this line always rolled out by Australia, "We play the game hard, but fair." They really haven't done that in a long time. You can play cricket hard without getting into the face of the opposition.

 

[Unbreakable]

Bailey suspended & Warner rested for next game, Smith captain, S.Marsh & White back in.

1. Finch
2. White
3. Watson
4. Smith (c)
5. S.Marsh
6. Maxwell
7. Haddin
8. Faulkner
9. Starc
10. Cummins
11. Sandhu

 

[Unbreakable]

Dunno what Chris Lynn has to do to get a run.. he's been Queensland's best batsmen in all forms of the game solidly for the last 2-3 seasons, way better than White, and way younger.

 

[Big Pete]

Lynn hasn't been that consistent and his absence during the One-Day Domestic competition probably kept him out.

Would have been going out on a limb for him.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Dunno what Chris Lynn has to do to get a run.. he's been Queensland's best batsmen in all forms of the game solidly for the last 2-3 seasons, way better than White, and way younger.

He missed the whole Matador Cup this season and hasn't played any shield cricket.

 

[1910]

Dunno what Chris Lynn has to do to get a run.. he's been Queensland's best batsmen in all forms of the game solidly for the last 2-3 seasons, way better than White, and way younger.

That's simply not true.

He hasn't played a Shield or One day game this season.
2013/2014- Second most runs in One Day and Shield.
2012/2013- Didn't play a Shield game, 88 runs from 4 One Day games.

20/20 form over last three years- never averaged above 35.

 

[Unbreakable]

He hasn't played a Shield or One day game this season.

Not his fault, injured.

2013/2014- Second most runs in One Day and Shield.

That's pretty good, I think that makes him our best batsmen, unless it was the same person who scored more runs than him in both One Day and Shield.

2012/2013- Didn't play a Shield game, 88 runs from 4 One Day games.

I said 2-3, let's go with 2.

20/20 form over last three years- never averaged above 35.

How many batsmen average over 35 in Big Bash every year? It wouldn't be many..

 

[1910]

Right so despite, having injury plagued years where he hasn't played a game and never being the highest run scorer- he's the best batsman year after year.

For the record this year in the top 50 batsman in the Big Bash.

Pietersen 52
Forrest 47
Klinger 36
Carberry 41
Silk 65
Reardon 38
Blizzard 47
Kallis 35
Hussey 42
Hill 38
Botha 35
Beaton 98
Russell 43
Triffit 41

 

[Unbreakable]

Right so despite, having injury plagued years where he hasn't played a game and never being the highest run scorer- he's the best batsman year after year.

So you would consider finishing 2nd in both One Dayers & Shield seasons for runs, not being our best batsmen? As I said, statistically speaking that makes him our best batsmen for that season of cricket, unless someone else scored more combined runs than he did.

For the record this year in the top 50 batsman in the Big Bash.

Pietersen 52
Forrest 47
Klinger 36
Carberry 41
Silk 65
Reardon 38
Blizzard 47
Kallis 35
Hussey 42
Hill 38
Botha 35
Beaton 98
Russell 43
Triffit 41

Whilst averages are nice, a few of those guys have only had 1-2 bats, which kind of defeats the purpose of an average.

 

[1910]

So you would consider finishing 2nd in both One Dayers & Shield seasons for runs, not being our best batsmen? As I said, statistically speaking that makes him our best batsmen for that season of cricket, unless someone else scored more combined runs than he did.

No oddly I consider the person who scored the most runs the best batsman for the year.

Forrest scoring 236 more runs and averaging 10 more everytime he batted makes him the best Shield bat last season. Khawaja scoring 228 more one day runs from the same amount of games and averaging 22 more! Makes him the best One day batsman for last season.

Forrest scored 823 Shield Runs and 0 One day runs. 823 Total
Khawaja scored 564 Shield Runs and 426 One Day runs. 990 Total

Both beat him for runs last year- Lynn 198 One Day runs and 587 Shield runs. 785 Total.

2/3 seasons you stated as Lynn dominating he didn't even play and the third he didn't get more runs than other guys- Your argument is terrible.

Simple truth is Lynn hasn't played enough cricket and when he is playing he isn't scoring enough runs to make the Australian One Day side.

 

[Unbreakable]

Forrest scored 823 Shield Runs and 0 One day runs. 823 Total
Khawaja scored 564 Shield Runs and 426 One Day runs. 990 Total

Both beat him for runs last year- Lynn 198 One Day runs and 587 Shield runs. 785 Total.

Lynn came second in One Day runs with 198, Khawaja was first with 426?!?!

How was there such a huge gap...

 

[Big Pete]

Because the Bulls have bugger all when it comes to batsmen.

 

[1910]

Lynn came second in One Day runs with 198, Khawaja was first with 426?!?!

How was there such a huge gap...

One century and four 50's in 7 games v two 50's in 7 games.

Should add too, Lynn has never scored a One Day 100 for Qld in 29 games.

 

[Mister Wright]

Lynn was never going to be selected. If there was a chance of a QLDer being selected, I suspect it would have been Burns given how well he batted in the Sydney test. It makes sense to select Marsh & White, Marsh because he has been in-and-around the test/ODI team for the last 12 months and White because he has been the best ODD batsman of the last two seasons. If they have to rule Clarke out it will be between these two batsmen. However, I would think that the thinking would change post-WC. Given their ages, I doubt either of Marsh or White will still be playing come 2019 so you might see some heavy turn over of the ODI squad in the next 2-3 years with Bailey, Clarke, Haddin & Johnson unlikely to feature in the 2019 tournament. That gives blokes like Khawaja, Lynn & Burns the chance to press their claims.

 

[Ari Gold]

Lynn could have been selected. Of course he didn't deserve to be on pure numbers, but we pick plenty of players who don't deserve to be there. More so in tests than anything, but Mitch Marsh is basically in the team on potential. I don't see why Lynn couldn't have been, particularly when Sandhu has been given a run this series and is not WC bound.

 

[Unbreakable]

It should be worth mentioning that excluding Joe Burns, the last person that debuted in Test cricket for Australia that averaged over 40 in FC was David Warner.. so yeah, we definitely don't pick players based on averages.