SPLIT DCE for Game III?

Welcome mate! I don't think you can really blame the media for the perception of DCE, you can blame DCE.
Thanks for the welcome. That is true, but as he said so himself against the Titans recently; There'll never be water under the bridge and that's ok with him. But for the media to criticise a man for being articulate and well-spoken is just juvenile and doesn't help Rugby League shake the label of being a thug sport. Personally, give me an articulate and well thought out response any day as opposed to the usual grunting 'credit to the boys'. As for the rumours he does not get along with players, I think it comes from the fact he is a dominant half and as such did not work well chemistry wise with JT who wanted a support player, thus recommending his teammate Michael Morgan. If that is the case, then by all means keep DCE on his toes churning out good performances as he waits for the lead playmaking role to become available.
 

Tom

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Thanks for the welcome. That is true, but as he said so himself against the Titans recently; There'll never be water under the bridge and that's ok with him. But for the media to criticise a man for being articulate and well-spoken is just juvenile and doesn't help Rugby League shake the label of being a thug sport. Personally, give me an articulate and well thought out response any day as opposed to the usual grunting 'credit to the boys'. As for the rumours he does not get along with players, I think it comes from the fact he is a dominant half and as such did not work well chemistry wise with JT who wanted a support player, thus recommending his teammate Michael Morgan. If that is the case, then by all means keep DCE on his toes churning out good performances as he waits for the lead playmaking role to become available.
Mate this forum has Milford pencilled in for that role.
 

holdzy89

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"I just seem extremely uncomfortable the way the media's put me in the spotlight" - there's an articulate sentence!

Little twerp is also a diver.
 

Battler

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are you serious... this isn't junior footy where we all play and have a good time after together.... who gives a **** if you don't like someone... play the game.... Apparently Parker was a ****, but he still played for qld and got a job done... your playing footy, not marrying the ****er.
Blokes in the Aus test team used to hate each other when we were beating everyone, now we have idiots like Mitch Marsh, Lyon, and Wade being first picked because they're "good blokes".
 

Tom

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Blokes in the Aus test team used to hate each other when we were beating everyone, now we have idiots like Mitch Marsh, Lyon, and Wade being first picked because they're "good blokes".
Even though it is a team sport, cricket is alot more about individual brilliance than RL imo.
 

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Hmm so I'm not a DCE fan and he's was hopeless filling in for an injured Cronk.
However we have no one else. Morgan will be left on the bench and rightly so as that's his best position for us. Munster will play centre and will be solid as we have no one else and don't want Chambers switching and bringing either O'Neil back or Gagai to centre and Oates to wing.
Don't say Norman as he hasn't played a big game ever and Game 3 isn't the place to start. He's an OK to good club player but has no combinations with any of the team.
So really that leaves us with a premiership player who has played Origins and for his country.
IMO put him in and this will be it, last chance saloon. He can turn it around and win is Game 3 and cement the 7 position for years to come. Or play poorly and we go to Milf / Norman / Munster / Hunt from 2018 in a changing and new blood.
 

holdzy89

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Hmm so I'm not a DCE fan and he's was hopeless filling in for an injured Cronk.
However we have no one else. Morgan will be left on the bench and rightly so as that's his best position for us. Munster will play centre and will be solid as we have no one else and don't want Chambers switching and bringing either O'Neil back or Gagai to centre and Oates to wing.
Don't say Norman as he hasn't played a big game ever and Game 3 isn't the place to start. He's an OK to good club player but has no combinations with any of the team.
So really that leaves us with a premiership player who has played Origins and for his country.
IMO put him in and this will be it, last chance saloon. He can turn it around and win is Game 3 and cement the 7 position for years to come. Or play poorly and we go to Milf / Norman / Munster / Hunt from 2018 in a changing and new blood.
How is he going to play six and cement the seven?

I know what you mean, a role in the team but if he was picked for game three and did well, his role in the team would change next year given no Thurston and no Cronk.
 

Battler

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Even though it is a team sport, cricket is alot more about individual brilliance than RL imo.
Agreed, but you're closer to your team mates in cricket (on the field and off) than you are in RL, yet some of our greatest ever players could deal with people they personally considered dick heads because they were all competing for the same common objective. Now look at the state of Cricket Aus after Clarke: full of blokes who objectively don't deserve to be in the side because they're mates with others or "good blokes", and we're copping losses we shouldn't be copping because of it.

I really, REALLY don't want to see QLD descend into that sort of mindset, because we won't have Smith and co around for ever to cover for horrid players who just so happen to be good blokes.
 

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G'day all long time reader of this forum, originally a Manly fan but have a soft spot for the Bronx. Personally a big DCE fan and would love to see him picked to play for QLD as he is showing great form. There's a common misconception that DCE took the Titans for a ride and never intended to honour his deal with them, this is a lie. DCE and Foran were the hottest commodities on the player market at the time and Manly's amateur mismanagement could not work out a deal for two such dominant halves (both rep players at the time).

The Manly management placed all their eggs in the Foran basket and pulled their offer for DCE off the table. This is when DCE decided to enter the player market and as such was seen looking at Sharks and Titans facilities. The Titans won the race to sign him and he was all but ready to go and play for them, he even bought a house up at the Coast. Foran then went on to sign with Parramatta, and never actually intended to stay at Manly. This is when the Manly management panicked as it looked like fans were going to revolt over losing their two best players, Bozo was brought in to clean the place up. The Manly management realised that they'd have to throw DCE a pretty sweet deal in order for him to backflip. Alas the 8 year deal was put forward, which he'd of course take to stay where his wife was a local, his family was established, and to continue playing at the club he didn't want to leave in the first place.

Could he have conducted himself better throughout the saga? Personally think he could have, but he played well within the rules at the time. Was he the first player to backflip for a better deal after agreeing to play for another club? Look at Tallis, Tedesco, Inglis, Papalli etc. Will he be the last to do it? Definitely not, the media just blew the whole thing out of proportion as he had signed an unprecedented deal.
The one thing I don't get with all the contract issues that occurred at manly is how Foran escaped with zero criticism??

I can't remember everything from back then, but was Cherry copping flack for signing with the titans in the first place... whereas Foran bailed to the eels for a similar price and nothing at all
 

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The one thing I don't get with all the contract issues that occurred at manly is how Foran escaped with zero criticism??

I can't remember everything from back then, but was Cherry copping flack for signing with the titans in the first place... whereas Foran bailed to the eels for a similar price and nothing at all
Because Foran kept his shit behind closed doors. He did the deal and that was that. No fuss, no media whoring, and certainly no playing clubs against each other and dancing on a tightrope for months.
 
The one thing I don't get with all the contract issues that occurred at manly is how Foran escaped with zero criticism??

I can't remember everything from back then, but was Cherry copping flack for signing with the titans in the first place... whereas Foran bailed to the eels for a similar price and nothing at all
Oh mate you should see what in the know Manly fans say about Foran. Foran was part of the Stewart and Watmough clique at Manly and when Glenn Stewart was not offered a contract he threw a tantrum along with Watmough and bailed to Parramatta. His performances on the field in 2015 were deliberately deplorable and he had no intention of signing with Manly despite the club throwing everything at him, even pulling DCE's first contract.

It really is a shame he was my favourite player, wasn't the most skilful but the way he played wrecked his body for the club, he was to be our next captain and leader instead he spat the dummy and threw his coach under the bus and ruined his reputation in the process.
 
Because Foran kept his shit behind closed doors. He did the deal and that was that. No fuss, no media whoring, and certainly no playing clubs against each other and dancing on a tightrope for months.
Foran strung along the Manly management for months saying he intended to sign, he came out publicly saying the same. Then at the start of the 2015 season when Manly had lost DCE to the Titans in order to make sure they got Foran he turned around and announced he was off to the Eels. His performances on the field were abhorrent after that, is it any wonder they were under the microscope with all the investigations of match-fixing last year?
 

BroncsFan

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Oh mate you should see what in the know Manly fans say about Foran. Foran was part of the Stewart and Watmough clique at Manly and when Glenn Stewart was not offered a contract he threw a tantrum along with Watmough and bailed to Parramatta. His performances on the field in 2015 were deliberately deplorable and he had no intention of signing with Manly despite the club throwing everything at him, even pulling DCE's first contract.

It really is a shame he was my favourite player, wasn't the most skilful but the way he played wrecked his body for the club, he was to be our next captain and leader instead he spat the dummy and threw his coach under the bus and ruined his reputation in the process.
Yeah I can remember something happening where I was like Foran has done the exact same thing i.e. stringing along and then bailing, but there was no outcry from anyone only the media praising parra on the signing
 

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