PLAYER Ezra Mam

[Old Mate]

Just saw an article saying how lenient Ezra’s suspension is compared to recent suspensions then go on to name Spencer, Pearce, Carney etc rather than the most obvious recent in Trindall. Standard rugby league journalism.

 

[BroncsFan]

Just saw an article saying how lenient Ezra’s suspension is compared to recent suspensions then go on to name Spencer, Pearce, Carney etc rather than the most obvious recent in Trindall. Standard rugby league journalism.

I was wondering who in recent times has been suspended for longer than 9 weeks?? (That's not ASADA drug related)

Spencer was 8
Pearce was 8 (I think?)
Carney sacked after about a million previous incidents

 

[Gaz]

I was wondering who in recent times has been suspended for longer than 9 weeks?? (That's not ASADA drug related)

Spencer was 8
Pearce was 8 (I think?)
Carney sacked after about a million previous incidents

James Graham 12 matches in 2012 for biting Billy Slater and Travis Burns 12 matches for a high tackle and chicken wing in the same game also in 2012. Travis never played NRL again.
Longest was Danny Williams 2004 - 18 matches for a king hit on Mark O'Neill.

 

[BroncsFan]

James Graham 12 matches in 2012 for biting Billy Slater and Travis Burns 12 matches for a high tackle and chicken wing in the same game also in 2012. Travis never played NRL again.
Longest was Danny Williams 2004 - 18 matches for a king hit on Mark O'Neill.

Was thinking more about off field incidents where the NRL have complete control on how long to suspend rather than reportable incidents where they have the judiciary.

 

[broncoscope]

I've been watching the commentary on Esra's accident and I can't help to think that it happened at a time that was needed to probably force him to pull his head in..
It was becoming increasingly obvious that he was thinking how easy life as a footballer was . I feel sorry for the other people involved in the accident and I know if it had been my family that I would have been absolutely livid..
Even though I didn't really want Esra sacked ,I still want him to pay dearly for his stupidity.
Like many on here, I'm hoping that this episode in his life will rein him in to a bit of life reality. I have no doubt he has a tough period in front of him, which is fully deserved in my books.
How he responds moving forward will be the true indication as to whether he has truly learned a life's lesson or whether he's another idiot with talent but no brains..
I would be happy to see him spend time in Qld cup to further realise the extent of his irresponsible behaviour.
Unfortunately I think the whole squad will now suffer some consequences of his actions as I'm sure Madge would have drawn a line in the sand as to what is expected of a Broncos player.
I'm sure Ben Hunt returning will also drive behavioural standards which to an outsider looks to be sorely needed.
Time will tell I suppose but I am really looking so forward to this season which to be honest, I haven't for a long time..
GO BRONCOS .

 

[1910]

Was thinking more about off field incidents where the NRL have complete control on how long to suspend rather than reportable incidents where they have the judiciary.

Norman got 8 weeks for running a chemist out of his pocket.

Wighton got 10 matches for carrying on.

 

[ivanhungryjak]

Norman got 8 weeks for running a chemist out of his pocket.

Wighton got 10 matches for carrying on.

To be fair, Wighton had five separate assault charges plus extra.

 

[john1420]

Firstly I asked a question - not made an accusation, although I can see how you might take it that way.

Your brief appears to suggest penalties or fines in this case should reflect the extent or severity of injuries caused by the incident. (Minor injuries shouldn’t double the penalty)

I think you will find that most investigators will take into account the cause, in particular the root cause of an incident or accident that led to those injuries to determine if a penalty or fine is justified. The size of the penalty or fine, if at all, will usually result from that investigation.

Ezra has done extremely well with the powers that be and in my opinion anyone fobbing this off as minor are kidding themselves.

I hear ya @Gaz

My comment that minor injuries shouldn’t double the penalty, actually wasn't an indication that I think that penalties / fines should reflect the extent or severity of injuries caused, it was just a reply to those people saying it justifies the difference in suspension between Mam and others.

I am genuinely caught between two schools of thought with that. On the one hand, I think the action should entirely determine the penalty - the logic being the difference between a drunk (for example) driver losing control of his vehicle, crossing onto the wrong side of the road and causing no damage, and a drunk driver losing control of his vehicle, crossing onto the wrong side of the road and killing someone, is nothing but pure luck, or happenstance. Given the thing that they did wrong was identical, why should the penalties be different?

But I totally understand the other side of the argument that the outcome determines the penalty, and that is the way our court system works, so it also makes sense that it applies elsewhere. I am genuinely happy with 9 weeks for Ezra (he should have received a hefty fine from the NRL too, not sure if that's still to come) I think it's a fair penalty for what he did when viewed in isolation.

I also don't think anyone is fobbing it off as minor, non-Bronco fans are in an uproar over it for being too light, and I can't think of anyone here saying the incident is minor?

My issue is purely the lack of a system to guide penalties. A system where someone or some panel, looks at an incident and thinks "yeah I reckon that's worth x weeks and x dollars" isn't a system at all. Take the Mam incident out of it, and think of the Leniu racism slur. He got 8 weeks. Who here has any confidence that the next person to use a racial slur will also get 8 weeks? I certainly don't, and that is my issue.

 

[broncsgoat]

This thread would have been better/closed if we just shit canned him two months ago like we should have.

People defending him are fucking cooked…

He was good for about 10 games two years ago, we’re paying him marquee money and he’s going to implode… terrible business decisions on this bloke

 

[Swordfish]

I wonder why you continue to express your animosity towards Ezra mate. Reckon you should give it a rest. He’s done some pretty dumb shit & he will have to learn from it. Let him.
There are far worse things committed by other NRL players yet, they have been put under the mat & the dumb **** media is going on & on about Ezra nonstop.

 

[Nashy]

I wonder why you continue to express your animosity towards Ezra mate. Reckon you should give it a rest. He’s done some pretty dumb shit & he will have to learn from it. Let him.
There are far worse things committed by other NRL players yet, they have been put under the mat & the dumb **** media is going on & on about Ezra nonstop.

I think goat is making a different point to most. He's not commenting on the accident at all. It was a great opportunity for the club to move on someone who's on way, way too much money.

 

[BroncsFan]

I wonder why you continue to express your animosity towards Ezra mate. Reckon you should give it a rest. He’s done some pretty dumb shit & he will have to learn from it. Let him.
There are far worse things committed by other NRL players yet, they have been put under the mat & the dumb **** media is going on & on about Ezra nonstop.

He wants the cap space back

 

[Swordfish]

I think goat is making a different point to most. He's not commenting on the accident at all. It was a great opportunity for the club to move on someone who's on way, way too much money.

Then in that case, the club should’ve done that starting with Milford. He literally stole money from the club for those many years & the club just let him. After 2015, 2016(not entire season though), he stopped turning up & refused to be coached by Locky.

 

[Swordfish]

He wants the cap space back

Reckon for season 2025, we’re ok but for 2026 season and beyond( with Adam retiring & few others not extended), we will have decent cap space so the current coaching staff can plan things astutely based on it.

 

[broncsgoat]

Then in that case, the club should’ve done that starting with Milford. He literally stole money from the club for those many years & the club just let him. After 2015, 2016(not entire season though), he stopped turning up & refused to be coached by Locky.

Other than being our pots for his first big contract year, sure… that doesn’t make what we’re doing with Ezra correct

 

[Gaz]

I hear ya @Gaz

My comment that minor injuries shouldn’t double the penalty, actually wasn't an indication that I think that penalties / fines should reflect the extent or severity of injuries caused, it was just a reply to those people saying it justifies the difference in suspension between Mam and others.

I am genuinely caught between two schools of thought with that. On the one hand, I think the action should entirely determine the penalty - the logic being the difference between a drunk (for example) driver losing control of his vehicle, crossing onto the wrong side of the road and causing no damage, and a drunk driver losing control of his vehicle, crossing onto the wrong side of the road and killing someone, is nothing but pure luck, or happenstance. Given the thing that they did wrong was identical, why should the penalties be different?

But I totally understand the other side of the argument that the outcome determines the penalty, and that is the way our court system works, so it also makes sense that it applies elsewhere. I am genuinely happy with 9 weeks for Ezra (he should have received a hefty fine from the NRL too, not sure if that's still to come) I think it's a fair penalty for what he did when viewed in isolation.

I also don't think anyone is fobbing it off as minor, non-Bronco fans are in an uproar over it for being too light, and I can't think of anyone here saying the incident is minor?

My issue is purely the lack of a system to guide penalties. A system where someone or some panel, looks at an incident and thinks "yeah I reckon that's worth x weeks and x dollars" isn't a system at all. Take the Mam incident out of it, and think of the Leniu racism slur. He got 8 weeks. Who here has any confidence that the next person to use a racial slur will also get 8 weeks? I certainly don't, and that is my issue.

Well said @john1420

 

[Gaz]

Broncos have fined Ezra additional $90,000.

 

[Sproj]

Broncos Statement – Ezra Mam

The Brisbane Broncos can confirm Ezra Mam has accepted both NRL sanctions and additional Club-imposed sanctions handed down, following an incident that took place in October.

www.broncos.com.au