POST GAME Finals Week 1 - Roosters vs Broncos

[Porthoz]

Gutless coach? How? Im not sure who hates Bennett more, you are Tallis.

Playing the man, as usual...

P.S. Reading is such an underrated ability.

 

[Big Pete]

Apparently kodi was training at full back all week only for bennett to pull a swifty on game day to start with mead. I don't even think mead has played or trained at fullback for years. No wonder our line was clueless, the guy who was training to make those calls was on the bench ffs. I think Wayne needs to just back kodi unconditionally. Pick and stick not shit the bed on game day.

Didn't Channel 9 do a report that suggested Kodi was struggling at fullback? That may have been Bennett's concern, to put the edge off of it.

I don't agree with the call and in hindsight he would have been better off going the ol' Sammy at 9, Hunt off the bench, Ese/Ofa starting trick.

 

[Browny]

I reckon the players should be more disciplined and have a drinking ban as well, Joe was drinking Wednesday night at some party.

Was he maggot drunk or having a couple of drinks?

He's not Todd Carney ffs

 

[winslow_wong]

Didn't Channel 9 do a report that suggested Kodi was struggling at fullback? That may have been Bennett's concern, to put the edge off of it.

I don't agree with the call and in hindsight he would have been better off going the ol' Sammy at 9, Hunt off the bench, Ese/Ofa starting trick.

Bennett doesn't trust the young guys enough to start a game. This is why some players might look to play else where. Look at what Walters did after origin 1. Let go the old veterans who aren't performing.

 

[Big Pete]

Bennett doesn't trust the young guys enough to start a game. This is why some players might look to play else where. Look at what Walters did after origin 1. Let go the old veterans who aren't performing.

You could be right, when Hunt was starting off the bench earlier he had Korbin Sims there to handle the earlier exchanges. I don't think it's completely out of the question though, Bennett has given Ese and Joe starting gigs before and they just haven't handled it for one reason or another.

 

[Dee]

Waking up this morning and just knowing the Broncos can't and won't win the premiership is so frustrating and deflating because even though we haven't been really consistent this season, at times I saw enough to know we CAN win the premiership.

How long until our club wins another premiership? How long can we wait? How long until the players play to their potential with a killer instinct and hunger that cannot be matched by the opposition?

 

[Big Pete]

Waking up this morning and just knowing the Broncos can't and won't win the premiership is so frustrating and deflating because even though we haven't been really consistent this season, at times I saw enough to know we CAN win the premiership.

How long until our club wins another premiership? How long can we wait? How long until the players play to their potential with a killer instinct and hunger that cannot be matched by the opposition?

You wrote the team back off in June, so I'm not sure why you're letting last night's result affect you.

There's always next year.

 

[Dee]

You wrote the team back off in June, so I'm not sure why you're letting last night's result affect you.

There's always next year.

Not sure if it was June but it was right after the most recent Eels game.

It affects me like it affects us all when we lose especially when we beat ourselves and don't play to our potential with silly errors, penalties and not being hungry and confident like our opposition.

I know we won't win the premiership this season but we got ourselves into a great position in the top 4 with 2 chances, so I'll always have hope we can pull something out of our ass.

 

[1910]

That first try to Guerra can be put down to missing Boyd. The Roosters stacked their right hand side and Brisbane had 3 players marking up on Mitchell who was isolated on the other side of the field. The Guerra half-break put them at sixes and sevens and Blair came in on Keary when he didn't have to, giving the Roosters huge numbers for Guerra to score.

If Boyd had have been there, the defensive line would have been far better organised.

Spacing was never right, as soon as a bust or some sort of unpredictability occurred they couldn't go back to the line and be organised.

 

[Battler]

Waking up this morning and just knowing the Broncos can't and won't win the premiership is so frustrating and deflating because even though we haven't been really consistent this season, at times I saw enough to know we CAN win the premiership.

How long until our club wins another premiership? How long can we wait? How long until the players play to their potential with a killer instinct and hunger that cannot be matched by the opposition?

Take the first choice hooker and FB out of any team in the competition, let alone a couple of forwards, and they'd be rooted big time. Only the Eels have managed to handle it, however, Pritchard and Gutho aren't as essential to their structure as Boyd and Macca are to ours. Macca's absence has exposed our middle big time, especially Blair, and has really shined a light on just how good he is for us. He and Boyd were really the big wigs in D for us, the shot callers.

It looks like Bennett has finally admitted to himself, with the interest in Lodge, that the reduced interchanges did nothing to stop the cancerous wrestle and presence of huge forwards, so it'll be interesting to see how our pack looks next year.

 

[Big Pete]

Not sure if it was June but it was right after the most recent Eels game.

I'm not having a go, but you've been beating yourself up ever since the Melbourne game and every subsequent loss.

In all likelihood 2017 just isn't their year. So be it, the Broncos still have a good squad moving forward and there's plenty to look forward to.

This isn't the competition if you're looking for dynasties or everlasting success.

 

[Dee]

I'm not having a go, but you've been beating yourself up ever since the Melbourne game and every subsequent loss.

In all likelihood 2017 just isn't their year. So be it, the Broncos still have a good squad moving forward and there's plenty to look forward to.

This isn't the competition if you're looking for dynasties or everlasting success.

I understand we can't win the premiership every year okay, but I look at the Melbourne Storm and that team every year you can deadset say can and will win the premiership. They are unbelievably consistent and absolutely will not tolerate anything less then perfection. They play EVERY game at 110% and give their fans so much confidence and satisfaction EVERY season and their fans know that yes we are the best team in the NRL and we will fucking win the premiership etc. Shit happens and like last year's GF they lost but my point is can we say all this about the Broncos? What I'm hearing lately is, it's okay, we lost, it's just not their year but there's plenty to look forward to and next year we'll be better etc. To me, that sounds like people settle for mediocrity and settle for just a good effort. The effort is 99% of the time there with our boys, I never really dispute our effort but what i do question is our desire, our hunger, our self belief and confidence. We can't win every game, yes ofcourse, but we CAN absolutely dish up something better then we did in last night's finals game if we truly wanted to win the premiership.

 

[winslow_wong]

I understand we can't win the premiership every year okay, but I look at the Melbourne Storm and that team every year you can deadset say can and will win the premiership. They are unbelievably consistent and absolutely will not tolerate anything less then perfection. They play EVERY game at 110% and give their fans so much confidence and satisfaction EVERY season and their fans know that yes we are the best team in the NRL and we will fucking win the premiership etc. Shit happens and like last year's GF they lost but my point is can we say all this about the Broncos? What I'm hearing lately is, it's okay, we lost, it's just not their year but there's plenty to look forward to and next year we'll be better etc. To me, that sounds like people settle for mediocrity and settle for just a good effort. The effort is 99% of the time there with our boys, I never really dispute our effort but what i do question is our desire, our hunger, our self belief and confidence. We can't win every game, yes ofcourse, but we CAN absolutely dish up something better then we did in last night's finals game if we truly wanted to win the premiership.

Fair points. After the grand final loss nearly everyone was saying we'd be back the year after and would win it as there was so much to build on our 2015 season. There should have been the hurt and hunger to do so but instead the team has lost their way a bit in terms of attitude and defence. I think a lot of the players haven't even re watched that gf loss and have simply been traumatised ever since. When the going gets tough now they just wilt. It's sad because this group definitely had the talent to win it all but I fear it's gonna take years to rebuild.

 

[Big Pete]

It may seem like Melbourne can win a premiership every year, but when it's all said and done their strike rate under Bellamy is 1/14, possibly soon to be 2/15. They have dished up seasons similar to the Broncos were making the finals was their ceiling and been embarrassed on the biggest stages. They're a great side, but their era is just about over.

 

[winslow_wong]

It may seem like Melbourne can win a premiership every year, but when it's all said and done their strike rate under Bellamy is 1/14, possibly soon to be 2/15. They have dished up seasons similar to the Broncos were making the finals was their ceiling and been embarrassed on the biggest stages. They're a great side, but their era is just about over.

I hope we have a golden era again soon but it'll probably be a few years. 2015 was bit of a cameo.

 

[Dee]

It may seem like Melbourne can win a premiership every year, but when it's all said and done their strike rate under Bellamy is 1/14, possibly soon to be 2/15. They have dished up seasons similar to the Broncos were making the finals was their ceiling and been embarrassed on the biggest stages. They're a great side, but their era is just about over.

Every season for the past 10 seasons or so, what does everyone say? Melbourne are the favourites, Melbourne are going to the GF, Melbourne are in the top 2 or top 4 etc. So it's pretty fair to say that clubs attitude, desire and hunger is pretty much ingrained into their DNA and culture. We have THAT potential and 2015 was the perfect example of that but since then, what's gone wrong? Are we unlucky? Do we make excuses? No, we just don't have the attitude and desire to go all the way.

 

[Big Pete]

Every season for the past 10 seasons or so, what does everyone say? Melbourne are the favourites, Melbourne are going to the GF, Melbourne are in the top 2 or top 4 etc.

Who says that? After 2012 it was Melbourne are too old, too predictable and a few would even tip them to miss the 8. This has really been the first time they've looked a cut above since the salary cap drama.

They've had 15 seasons under the one coach, in a system built around 3 legends of the game in key positions and haven't strayed from any path. In contrast the Broncos have had four different coaching tenures at that time, had to farewell a legend, lost their way at some point and have been rebuilding since 2013.

The Broncos are still one of the most consistent clubs in the competition under Bennett and will in all likelihood be right up there again in 2018.

 

[Mortician]

Who says that? After 2012 it was Melbourne are too old, too predictable and a few would even tip them to miss the 8. This has really been the first time they've looked a cut above since the salary cap drama.

They've had 15 seasons under the one coach, in a system built around 3 legends of the game in key positions and haven't strayed from any path. In contrast the Broncos have had four different coaching tenures at that time, had to farewell a legend, lost their way at some point and have been rebuilding since 2013.

The Broncos are still one of the most consistent clubs in the competition under Bennett and will in all likelihood be right up there again in 2018.

Yeah but just win ffs!