OFFICIAL Game II Queensland Side

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Huge chance that he will be asked to play 30-40 minutes.
Closer to 30 at most. No problems with it. I would have given Thaiday another chance over him letting him know that he is on his final chance but he is better than Myles Lillyman and Guerra for the role he is going to play.
 

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The selectors got it so wrong with the team they picked in Game 1. I'm not sure they've done any better for game 2 TBH. The Gavin Cooper selection is poor IMO. Felise Kaufusi playing much better footy and ripe for the picking IMO.
JT's combo with Cooper. They both know what the other is doing.
 

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Yeah I was just guessing based on what Badel was saying, would you mind telling us who?

Cooper on the bench, Guerra / Wallace starting?
Sorry guys I was somewhat misled, the sheet I was given had Pappali on the bench then they named a non-team first time ever I have seen that.

The squad was right though to the team I had.
 

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JT's combo with Cooper. They both know what the other is doing.
Plus Cooper can play 80. Kaufusi wouldn't have it in him at this level yet. The two backrowers playing 80 opens it up for the middle to get more rotation through it and more leg speed and not being as tired. It strengthens where we got smashed in game 1. Moving Papalli to prop is a brilliant move imo for the balance of the side
 

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Corey Oates being dropped from the side is one of the boneheaded moves that NSW repeatedly made during their decade of losing, makes absolutely no sense.

I'm excited to see what Coen Hess can do in origin, and i liked Walters little digs at Green during the announcement

IMO, now that Slater has been picked i would playing him on the wing. Get him in space and he will be away, but he can't set up his wingers or through those cracking cut out passes like Boyd can (even if you switch him to the back for kick returns, but if NSW are smart they will never kick anywhere near Slater). Although, everyone knows that Slater will start at fullback, so I'm not sure what Walters is trying to achieve with his attempted subterfuge.

Myles, Lilyman, Thaiday, Guerra and O'neill were obvious choices for obmission.

Glasby ... meh, but as @Big Pete said, we won't lose the game due to him
 

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Tim Glasby is such a weird selection.
Disagree, he is a great call. Terrific defender always covers inside and gets quick play the balls. Queensland got beaten in the ruck and he is a great ruck defender.

Also great fit for the Queensland team.
 

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Corey Oates being dropped from the side is one of the boneheaded moves that NSW repeatedly made during their decade of losing, makes absolutely no sense.

I'm excited to see what Coen Hess can do in origin, and i liked Walters little digs at Green during the announcement

IMO, now that Slater has been picked i would playing him on the wing. Get him in space and he will be away, but he can't set up his wingers or through those cracking cut out passes like Boyd can (even if you switch him to the back for kick returns, but if NSW are smart they will never kick anywhere near Slater). Although, everyone knows that Slater will start at fullback, so I'm not sure what Walters is trying to achieve with his attempted subterfuge.

Myles, Lilyman, Thaiday, Guerra and O'neill were obvious choices for obmission.

Glasby ... meh, but as @Big Pete said, we won't lose the game due to him
I would much rather have Slater bringing the ball back than Holmes and Boyd if I was NSW. Those two can put a dent in the line and have the confidence to run back straight and hard for the better yardage return. Slater can get ragdolled bringing the ball back. There is not going to be holes everywhere in the kick return like there can be in club football. Especially the tactic that NSW and Pearce use in Origin. Just hanging it as high as possible so that they can get a straight line. Slater will be ineffective off kicks. Holmes and Boyd should be getting the ball off the yardage kicks as much as possible
 

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So we haven't named an extended bench.. I wonder who will come in for Wallace if he's suspended.. You'd have to imagine we replace him with a like for like.. Bolton? Lillyman? Sims?
 

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Oates went well in Game 1 but I think Holmes is the better player if they are choosing between the two.
 

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Oates went well in Game 1 but I think Holmes is the better player if they are choosing between the two.
how so ...

not only is Oates able to get our sets off to the right start and help the forwards out when they are struggling (which Holmes can't do)

but he has the ability to get the ball over the white stripe ... including by using his superior size to barge through the defence (which Holmes can't do).

Having said that they should both be in the side on the wings
 

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not only is Oates able to get our sets off to the right start and help the forwards out when they are struggling (which Holmes can't do)

but he has the ability to get the ball over the white stripe ... including by using his superior size to barge through the defence (which Holmes can't do).
Holmes can and does do both of those things for the Sharks. He averages 184 metres per game, he doesn't do that by being some weakling that struggles to make metres out of his own end. He's also arguably a more skillful finisher than Oates.

Oates has his strengths, primarily barging wingers over close to the line, but let's not sell Holmes short, he's an incredible player, and many would say a better all-around player than Corey.
 

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Holmes can and does do both of those things for the Sharks. He averages 184 metres per game, he doesn't do that by being some weakling that struggles to make metres out of his own end. He's also arguably a more skillful finisher than Oates.

Oates has his strengths, primarily barging wingers over close to the line, but let's not sell Holmes short, he's an incredible player, and many would say a better all-around player than Corey.
i'm not selling him short, I think he is a tremendous player should be in the side ... just not at the expense of Oates.

I also think he will have a long origin career for QLD
 

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I'm speechless (great show by the way). This is NSWesque. What a joke.

I couldn't care less about whether Glasby is good defensively or not, I reckon someone said to the selectors there is some guy in the Melbourne side who qualifie, Gafuby or something? They probably looked at Melbourne's side and went ahh must be Glasby.

I'm more than ok with Cooper getting picked and a lot of those guys (except Oates) getting dropped but our bench is absolute trash...again.
 

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how so ...

not only is Oates able to get our sets off to the right start and help the forwards out when they are struggling (which Holmes can't do)

but he has the ability to get the ball over the white stripe ... including by using his superior size to barge through the defence (which Holmes can't do).

Having said that they should both be in the side on the wings
Oates averaged about 0.2m more than Holmes a carry last year. That is a myth. Did you watch Holmes in the big matches? Ran at the defensive line like a mad man.
 

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I'm speechless (great show by the way). This is NSWesque. What a joke.

I couldn't care less about whether Glasby is good defensively or not, I reckon someone said to the selectors there is some guy in the Melbourne side who qualifie, Gafuby or something? They probably looked at Melbourne's side and went ahh must be Glasby.

I'm more than ok with Cooper getting picked and a lot of those guys (except Oates) getting dropped but our bench is absolute trash...again.
I can't agree. I love the team. Oates is hard done by but the forward pack has a better balance to it and it is stronger in the problem areas where we were smashed in the 1st game. The bench is great. Hess, Morgan, Glasby and Wallace is very strong.
 

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After watching the presser with Kev, it basically sounds like Oates has had his time on the wing, if he gets back in to the team it'll be in the forwards.

I imagine he'll be in the discussion next year, with JT leaving there probably won't be any need for a 32 year old Gavin Cooper in the team.

2018 - (Assuming Slater retires from rep footy)

1. Boyd
2. Gagai
3. Inglis
4. Chambers
5. Holmes
6. Milford
7. Cronk
8. Scott
9. Smith (c)
10. Napa
11. Papalii
12. Gillett
13. McGuire

14. Munster
15. Oates
16. Hess
17. Wallace
 
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