Glenn: We are the coach now

[Hoof Hearted]

Translation: we've sacked Seibold for you.

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Boy that escalated quickly !

 

[Super Freak]

Isn't this how Bennett used to run training sometimes? I remember reading that he would let senior players take charge of training sometimes.

It’s not uncommon for coaches to let senior players take control.

Coaches would also ask senior players for their thoughts and advice.

 

[Thelmus]

Maybe there's more to it than Glenn says (it wouldnt be the first miscommunication out of the joint). It may be just that it is a week of concentrating on individual goals (let's hope so),or other wise sack him already.

 

[Kooly87]

It seems most people, yourself included, are shitting on the idea as a concept, even though it's not exactly novel.

I'd happily empower the players to take charge if I had Webcke, Tallis, Thorn, Lockyer, Petero etc in charge and calling the shots.

Boyd, Glenn, Offa - not so much.

It's a fine idea to jump out of an aeroplane if you have a fully functioning parachute. It's an entirely different proposition if you don't though.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

I'd happily empower the players to take charge if I had Webcke, Tallis, Thorn, Lockyer, Petero etc in charge and calling the shots.

Boyd, Glenn, Offa - not so much.

It's a fine idea to jump out of an aeroplane if you have a fully functioning parachute. It's an entirely different proposition if you don't though.

All of those guys you mentioned retired some time ago now. You could almost speak just as derisively about our senior players in Bennett's last year as you could about the current lot.

I know cynicism is all the rage around here, and not without cause, but this is a really bizarre reaction from the forum.

 

[Kooly87]

All of those guys you mentioned retired some time ago now. You could almost speak just as derisively about our senior players in Bennett's last year as you could about the current lot.

I know cynicism is all the rage around here, and not without cause, but this is a really bizarre reaction from the forum.

I would have spoken precisely as derisively as I am right now about our senior players basically since about 2015-2016.

 

[McHunt]

It’s not uncommon for coaches to let senior players take control.

Coaches would also ask senior players for their thoughts and advice.

True, just as it's not uncommon for military leaders to take control of the government.

Presidents would also ask military leaders for their thoughts and advice.

 

[Financeguy]

Maybe its a genius move to get around the salary cap, load a little extra into each of the players pay packets by promoting them all to the coaching staff.

Paul White might let Fifita run the Broncos for a month to find that extra 50k...

 

[Jedhead]

Well I think it's a wise move by Pies.

It shows he trusts his leadership group. He has given them added responsibility, and like I have been saying for a few weeks now everyone has to OWN IT.

If the players buy into the idea and it freshens them up mentally I'm all for it.

It also shows that Pies is willing to be seen to not be micro-managing his team, and it makes the boys think a wee bit more about what they are doing.

It's not new though. Benny let Kevvie and Alf run training when the team were in a slump.

 

[Kooly87]

True, just as it's not uncommon for military leaders to take control of the government.

Presidents would also ask military leaders for their thoughts and advice.

Correct, and since we've basically become the Fijian government, any chance we might have found a couple of handy Wingers who can catch and run during the transition?

 

[theshed]

All of those guys you mentioned retired some time ago now. You could almost speak just as derisively about our senior players in Bennett's last year as you could about the current lot.

I know cynicism is all the rage around here, and not without cause, but this is a really bizarre reaction from the forum.

Sorry, Im really unsure what point it is you’re making. I mean this sincerely, not trying to mean offence. I’m just too dumb to understand what you are saying.

 

[Kooly87]

Well I think it's a wise move by Pies.

It shows he trusts his leadership group. He has given them added responsibility, and like I have been saying for a few weeks now everyone has to OWN IT.

If the players buy into the idea and it freshens them up mentally I'm all for it.

It also shows that Pies is willing to be seen to not micro-managing his team, and it makes the boys think a wee bit more about what they are doing.

It's not new though. Benny let Kevvie and Alf ran training when the team were in a slump.

Yes, but Kevvie and Alf were two of the greatest Halves of their generation as well as being two of the best to have ever played for the club.

Boyd and Glenn on the other hand are both stupendously lucky to still be getting selected in the starting 17 of the worst Broncos side that's probably ever existed.

 

[Slippin Jimmy]

Sorry, Im really unsure what point it is you’re making. I mean this sincerely, not trying to mean offence. I’m just too dumb to understand what you are saying.

People are laughing like this is an insane idea, when it's actually an old idea that Bennett employed successfully when he was here (and not just when his team was packed full of living legends).

 

[theshed]

People are laughing like this is an insane idea, when it's actually an old idea that Bennett employed successfully when he was here (and not just when his team was packed full of living legends).

Gotcha. Cheers

 

[Renegade]

People are laughing like this is an insane idea, when it's actually an old idea that Bennett employed successfully when he was here (and not just when his team was packed full of living legends).

I think the difference is Bennett still had an aura around him so you're probably more likely to set yourself super high standards even if you are in control of training if you had someone like that around. Given Seibold has no aura and has been accused of trying to be their friend too much, it is prudent to question whether the players would cut corners because the likelihood of repercussions isn't as high.

The theory is sound if you have everything in place, but whether we do is the question.

 

[Jedhead]

Yes, but Kevvie and Alf were two of the greatest Halves of their generation as well as being two of the best to have ever played for the club.

Boyd and Glenn on the other hand are both stupendously lucky to still be getting selected in the starting 17 of the worst Broncos side that's probably ever existed.

And?

Pies is following the old adage of 'when life gives you lemons you make lemonade'. I admire his willingness to try something new with these guys. Shit for weeks he's been getting canned for doing the same thing over and over again. Now he tries something different at training and he's immediately shat on again.

"It's only a game" ffs.

 

[Gaz]

Smart move really. The players are going to make him or break him. If he can’t make them do what he wants them to do, he might as well do what they want him to do.

 

[calsy]

Bingo, he might well be incompetent but when you've just handed the reins over to the players you cant exactly be called out for not wanting to listen to those same players.

Handed over the reigns? Seibold just came into training this week at the clubs lowest point and told the players to 'sort it out yourselves'? More likely the players as a group stood up and told him they want a change.