Hunt must step-up to prove Origin pedigree

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SATURDAY night is Ben Hunt’s chance to show he deserves to be a key member of Queensland’s plan for sustained Origin domination.

Brisbane’s clash with the Bulldogs in Sydney will be a test of character on several fronts. I know how emotionally draining it can be to back up for a club game after tasting the unbridled joy of an Origin series win.

The Broncos will need their Origin big guns, at least the ones who manage to back up, to maintain their professional standards.

This is precisely the type of stage Hunt needs to develop his leadership skills, light the fire within and help him repeat the form that won him an Australian jumper two years ago.

Hunt’s duel with Canterbury playmaker Moses Mbye will be of the better scrumbase showdowns of the season.

The pair were teammates in Queensland’s Emerging Origin camp in January, but walked away with contrasting narratives.

Hunt was among the infamous eight who broke Kevin Walters’ team curfew and were hit with 12-month Origin bans.

Mbye earned credit points with Walters, who is set to gradually ramp up his Origin succession plan.

In the next 12 to 18 months, some critical decisions must be made about this wonderful Queensland team.

Father Time is looming. Even champions like Cameron Smith, Cooper Cronk and Johnathan Thurston are ageing and must soon pass the baton to a new wave of Maroons.

At 22, Mbye is still charting a steep development curve and he has Origin potential, but Hunt, four years his senior, is more seasoned and has reached a critical juncture of his career.

If he gets things right over the next 12 months, when his Origin ban will be lifted, Hunt can be the successor to Cronk.

But with rivals like Mbye and Daly Cherry-Evans breathing down his neck, Hunt cannot afford to lower the performance bar.

Some recent criticism of Hunt has been too harsh. He is going through a bit of a lull at the moment but I wouldn’t suggest he is in a slump. When good playmakers go through a quiet patch, the whispers begin about them not scoring tries or setting them up.

What Hunt needs right now is not a flashy highlights reel but consistency of performance. His try-assist count is still high, so offence is not a problem. If he can execute his role in defence and kicking options well, the mojo will return.

In every sense, Hunt is the poster boy for the winds of change that will soon sweep the Maroons into a new era.

The Maroons are entitled to savour their 10th series win in 11 years but the party will soon be over if Queensland do not identify who will replace their champions and when they will do so.

It is possible that Smith, Thurston and Cronk could quit Queensland in the same season. I believe NSW did not plan well for life after Brad Fittler and Andrew Johns and they paid the price. You can learn from the past and Queensland must pay attention to this.

The hardest person to replace will be Cameron Smith but if Queensland are looking for a similar style of player, Broncos hooker Andrew McCullough is their Plan B. Jake Friend and Jake Granville are also in the mix.

It is possible the Maroons’ next playmaking spine could comprise Darius Boyd, Anthony Milford, Hunt and McCullough. Their club understanding alone would be a huge asset.

Like Smith, Cronk may play on for another two years, but the future is now for men like Ben Hunt and Moses Mbye.
Their battle on Saturday will be worth more than just two competition points.

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He might have been more Origin ready if Griffin didn't **** his development up. And even the better defence excuse from playing hooker doesn't apply because Hunt's defence is shit now (#2 for missed tackles).
 
Ben might be a late bloomer to origin. I thought his Australian debut performance was really good, and i alwsys thought Tate played better in green & gold before he played great in maroon. I wouldnt right him off, he wont have a career like JT, but believe he will probide some solid servicemin years to come.
I'd actually like to see JT pull up stumps for rep footy this year to give the younger guys a go, Smithy needs to stay to steady the ship though

**** you can tell I've been drinking
 
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This article's a beat up.

Hunt will never run on as QLD's #7.

Guy is already 26 and would be woefully out of his depth in the arena, having him follow Thurston would be a cruel joke.
 
Does hunt have some sort of shoulder injury maybe? He doesn't seem to hit and drive like he did last year.
 
I'm praying that the Maroons are seriously considering Mybe, he has nothing. I find him very overrated. On his teams day he can put something on but when they are under pressure he does nothing or if Canterbury are off he does nothing. Josh Reynolds is the guy who really puts them on the front foot and gets them going.

On the topic of Hunt and Origin, I think he will get picked just because of the partnership with Milford. He is a good halfback no doubt but he looks like one of those guys who would struggle at the next level. He doesn't take control of the big moments and doesn't really strike me as a big game player.
 
This article's a beat up.

Hunt will never run on as QLD's #7.

Guy is already 26 and would be woefully out of his depth in the arena, having him follow Thurston would be a cruel joke.

He looked more than comfortable playing for Australia and when in form is one of the top halfbacks in the game, there is no basis to your hyperbolic comment.
 
This article's a beat up.

Hunt will never run on as QLD's #7.

Guy is already 26 and would be woefully out of his depth in the arena, having him follow Thurston would be a cruel joke.

Firstly Cronk is the QLD halfback not Thurston

and even if it was Thurston:

Ben Hunt is leading try assists this year with 4 more than Thurston (who is second)
Ben Hunt has 7 more line breaks than Thurston
Ben Hunt has scored 3 more tries than thurston
Ben Hunt has only 2 less line break assists than Thurston has.


people should get off his back, he isn't going anywhere near as bad as some people would have you believe
 
Firstly Cronk is the QLD halfback not Thurston

and even if it was Thurston:

Ben Hunt is leading try assists this year with 4 more than Thurston (who is second)
Ben Hunt has 7 more line breaks than Thurston
Ben Hunt has scored 3 more tries than thurston
Ben Hunt has only 2 less line break assists than Thurston has.


people should get off his back, he isn't going anywhere near as bad as some people would have you believe

Spot on and well said Foordy.
 
Firstly Cronk is the QLD halfback not Thurston

and even if it was Thurston:

Ben Hunt is leading try assists this year with 4 more than Thurston (who is second)
Ben Hunt has 7 more line breaks than Thurston
Ben Hunt has scored 3 more tries than thurston
Ben Hunt has only 2 less line break assists than Thurston has.


people should get off his back, he isn't going anywhere near as bad as some people would have you believe


All that is true, but when the pressure is on and the big play is needed, do you want Thurston or Hunt in charge of it?

Not saying Hunt isnt a good player because he is, he just lacks the smart kicking game and game management of a Cronk or JT. With some hard work, i still think he could train himself to improve his kicking more consistently no end, like Cooper Cronk has. I just dont think he has Cronks drive and will to be the best he can be.
 
You think Cronk or JT were the superior game managers they are today when they were 26? Maybe starting to show signs, but even the great D. Lockyer wasn't there yet. I think over the next 2 years, if Hunt hasn't progressed with kicking and game management, then we can safely say he won't ever, but until then, we should all have patience. The other parts of his game are above average.
 
You think Cronk or JT were the superior game managers they are today when they were 26? Maybe starting to show signs, but even the great D. Lockyer wasn't there yet. I think over the next 2 years, if Hunt hasn't progressed with kicking and game management, then we can safely say he won't ever, but until then, we should all have patience. The other parts of his game are above average.

Cronk was that player at that age. His game has been developed and built around structure and game management. It's the role he brings to the Storm side and a big part of why theyve been a top 4 showing over the last decade.
 
Firstly Cronk is the QLD halfback not Thurston

and even if it was Thurston:

Ben Hunt is leading try assists this year with 4 more than Thurston (who is second)
Ben Hunt has 7 more line breaks than Thurston
Ben Hunt has scored 3 more tries than thurston
Ben Hunt has only 2 less line break assists than Thurston has.


people should get off his back, he isn't going anywhere near as bad as some people would have you believe

That's great, now can you do another comparison about:

Kicking meters
Short attacking kicks
Gaining repeat sets through short deft kicking
Missed tackles
Field goals

You are giving us quantifiable attacking stats & I will grant you that, but anyone who watches this game knows there's far more to Hunt's position than his ability to poke his nose through the line.
 
He looked more than comfortable playing for Australia and when in form is one of the top halfbacks in the game, there is no basis to your hyperbolic comment.

Hunt will never make a run on QLD side whilst Milford, Morgan & Taylor are healthy.
 
Hunt will never make a run on QLD side whilst Milford, Morgan & Taylor are healthy.

as much as i rate Taylor he is a long way from being origin ready.

Morgan is a good running 5/8, but certainly not an Origin standard halfback.

Milford is the heir apparent to Thurston at 5/8 but will need a halfback to play with and the fact that Hunt plays with him at club level will give him the advantage, especially given Hunt's skills
 
That's great, now can you do another comparison about:

Kicking meters
Short attacking kicks
Gaining repeat sets through short deft kicking
Missed tackles
Field goals

You are giving us quantifiable attacking stats & I will grant you that, but anyone who watches this game knows there's far more to Hunt's position than his ability to poke his nose through the line.

Tackles:

Thurston has actually missed a higher % of tackles this year than what Hunt has missed

Hunt: 294 (57 missed); missed tackle % = 19%
Thurston: 178 (44 missed); missed tackle % = 24%

Kicks:

Hunt has also made a more meters from kicks than Thurston has,

Hunt has kicked 157 times for a gain of 4450m
Thurston has kicked 156 times for a gain of 3961m
 
Kick meters just means our forwards and back three aren't making enough meters during the set. Coote also does a lot of the cowboys long kicking.
 
I think Hunt's success in the Origin arena will be very dependent on his halves partner, not stats.
He would be fantastic partner to Thurston or Cronk for example, albeit I'd still prefer Milford in the role, but that isn't Hunt's fault... Milf is just a freak.

If we were to judge by stats, Hunt would be a better half than Thurston or Cronk, and I don't think anyone believes that. There are too many factors which affect a halfback's performance, and cannot be quantified: Composure, Kick accuracy, Organisation, Decision making, etc... all of which are Hunt's weaker side.

That said, at the moment, he would be my choice beyond Cronk and Thurston to partner Milf, but I really hope Taylor pushes on, because he possesses a set of skills the others don't have, and are of paramount importance in Origin.
 

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