OFFICIAL Jack Bird released to the Dragons

[WASSHHH]

Context no longer matters. That will do me.

When you take a parting shot at the club that, for 3 years, paid you incredibly well, supported you through injury after injury and got virtually nothing in return (I should also add; that agreed to release you and from most reports, will continue to pay a portion of your salary to play for a different club), you’re absolutely right: there is no context where the particular remark I quoted is acceptable.

Glad you agree.

 

[Huge]

When you take a parting shot at the club that, for 3 years, paid you incredibly well, supported you through injury after injury and got virtually nothing in return (I should also add; that agreed to release you and from most reports, will continue to pay a portion of your salary to play for a different club), you’re absolutely right: there is no context where the particular remark I quoted is acceptable.

Glad you agree.

Oh, you are today's INTERNET WINNER.

Context doesn't matter to you, not when you've already decided you know everything at least. Mind you, it makes any discussion pointless. It's very similar to how rabid religious folk think.

You know everything, you know what Bird was thinking, what was his intention and you're certain that the media report is 100% accurate.

Good luck with that as a way to view the world.

 

[DigitalDaz]

Can anyone explain to me why - even though we've released Bird, passed on Fifita, waved bye bye to Boyd and O'Sullivan - signed no one - and still apparently have salary cap issues?

Only Staggs, Flegler and possibly Farnworth could have received contract upgrades - and only Staggs anything substantial.

Something is not making sense.

 

[Sproj]

Can anyone explain to me why - even though we've released Bird, passed on Fifita, waved bye bye to Boyd and O'Sullivan - signed no one - and still apparently have salary cap issues?

Only Staggs, Flegler and possibly Farnworth could have received contract upgrades - and only Staggs anything substantial.

Something is not making sense.

Neither Staggs or Flegler have been re-signed yet, nor has Dearden or Coates.

 

[Huge]

Can anyone explain to me why - even though we've released Bird, passed on Fifita, waved bye bye to Boyd and O'Sullivan - signed no one - and still apparently have salary cap issues?

Only Staggs, Flegler and possibly Farnworth could have received contract upgrades - and only Staggs anything substantial.

Something is not making sense.

Err, what's amiss is the gullibility of the gentle reader. It's skewed. Every single one of us knows the media cannot be relied to simply present facts so why would anyone believe the claim we salary cap issues?

We obviously don't. We have Boyds 600k, Fifitas 400k, now Birds 975k, SOS's 200k, Kahu's 400k(?) And I'm sure there's probably more and that's not even including Seeplods cash. I think we'd likely have heaps of room on our cap with as much as a third of it not used yet.

 

[Waynesaurus]

Yep, better to cry poor otherwise if everybody knows you have plenty of spare cash then the player managers are going to be asking for bigger slice of it.

 

[007]

Err, what's amiss is the gullibility of the gentle reader. It's skewed. Every single one of us knows the media cannot be relied to simply present facts so why would anyone believe the claim we salary cap issues?

We obviously don't. We have Boyds 600k, Fifitas 400k, now Birds 975k, SOS's 200k, Kahu's 400k(?) And I'm sure there's probably more and that's not even including Seeplods cash. I think we'd likely have heaps of room on our cap with as much as a third of it not used yet.

Id say we have about 800-1.1 free. Not much room really. Especially when we have to clean up the messy player option contracts and resign some older heads.

 

[Foordy]

Can anyone explain to me why - even though we've released Bird, passed on Fifita, waved bye bye to Boyd and O'Sullivan - signed no one - and still apparently have salary cap issues?

Only Staggs, Flegler and possibly Farnworth could have received contract upgrades - and only Staggs anything substantial.

Something is not making sense.

We don't... that comment was designed to stop player managers queueing at our door trying to inflate their clients salary

 

[rnabokov]

You know how people don’t misrepresent things you say?

After a club rehabs you for months before you even step foot on the field. After the same club gets only 17 games out of you in three seasons. After the same club stands by you and your big money contract, even though you’ve provided no more (a fair argument could easily be made for less than) than a minimum-wage player could.

You don’t utter the phrase: “I felt like they gave up on me because of my injuries.”

No misreprentation there. That’s the attitude of someone who doesn’t understand or appreciate what has been done for them.

This club has done a lot of things wrong lately, but no one could possibly criticise how they have treated Bird.

After saying things like that, context or not, he deserves all the vitriol he gets.

I'm not sure I agree with this. Does Bird deserve any vitriol at all?

From what I have observed in the media - and where else does one get the info - going back to Oct 2, the waters, or maybe the Wa(l)ters, are muddied. For example here : https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...y/news-story/81973b8087b23514e74a2d89e66603e0 .... I read this:

"Brisbane coach Kevin Walters told Bird that he would like him to stay and see out the final year of his contract, worth upwards of $950,000. Others told Bird that he was free to go because the Broncos needed to ease the strain on their salary cap.

“Kevvie kept telling me he wanted me to stay,” Bird told The Weekend Australian.

“I felt like if he wanted me to stay he could have stepped in. I love Kev. Me and Kev are good mates. There are no hard feelings.

“I understand the reasons they want to get rid of me. I spoke to Kev last night. He rang me and asked if I was going.

“I told Kev I understand from your point of view and the club’s point of view that you want to free up some (salary cap) space.

“It is a business in the end. I was looking forward to playing for Kev this year but obviously they had different intentions.

“They wanted to get rid of me — they might not tell me that — but I know they wanted to get rid of me.”

So, as @Big Pete suggested earlier, Bird gets mixed messages, Walters wants him, the club doesn't. Seems to me it's a bit of a leap to infer from the media that Bird just wanted to up and go. So, from me, there is no vitriol, nor ill will towards Bird. We signed him, (at the same time as Milford and Boyd), and we punted him. I just don't get the anti-Bird vitriol on here

 

[Xzei]

"Brisbane coach Kevin Walters told Bird that he would like him to stay and see out the final year of his contract, worth upwards of $950,000. Others told Bird that he was free to go because the Broncos needed to ease the strain on their salary cap.

“They wanted to get rid of me — they might not tell me that — but I know they wanted to get rid of me.”

so which is it? did they tell him he could go or not?
sounds like even he is confused

 

[WASSHHH]

Oh, you are today's INTERNET WINNER.

Context doesn't matter to you, not when you've already decided you know everything at least. Mind you, it makes any discussion pointless. It's very similar to how rabid religious folk think.

You know everything, you know what Bird was thinking, what was his intention and you're certain that the media report is 100% accurate.

Good luck with that as a way to view the world.

When you typed your first line, I bet in your mind you were thinking: everyone will read this and see how up-to-date with the world-wide-web I am and think to themselves ‘that Huge bloke is such a neat fella’.

Regardless; what I find most intriguing from your old-man rambling is that, if what you’ve outlined are the requisites for anyone to form an opinion, it’ll be nigh on impossible for anyone to ever do so.

After all, you don’t know any of the information about me that you demand I know about Bird (nor about the religious folk you’re passing judgement on), yet here you are, hypocritically doing what you’re criticising others for doing.

As someone so accurately put it one day; old man yells at clouds.

 

[Morkel]

REMEMBER BIRD IS EX-SHARKS

That's all you need to know about that particular argument, now we can move on.

 

[Gaz]

'New St George coach Anthony Griffin has not decided what positon new recruit Jack Bird will play at the Dragons.'

Sound familiar?

 

[Sproj]

It is clear though that we are chipping in a considerable amount for the Dragons to have agreed to it.

 

[WASSHHH]

I'm not sure I agree with this. Does Bird deserve any vitriol at all?

From what I have observed in the media - and where else does one get the info - going back to Oct 2, the waters, or may the Wa(l)ters, are muddied. For example here : https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...y/news-story/81973b8087b23514e74a2d89e66603e0 .... I read this:

"Brisbane coach Kevin Walters told Bird that he would like him to stay and see out the final year of his contract, worth upwards of $950,000. Others told Bird that he was free to go because the Broncos needed to ease the strain on their salary cap.

“Kevvie kept telling me he wanted me to stay,” Bird told The Weekend Australian.

“I felt like if he wanted me to stay he could have stepped in. I love Kev. Me and Kev are good mates. There are no hard feelings.

“I understand the reasons they want to get rid of me. I spoke to Kev last night. He rang me and asked if I was going.

“I told Kev I understand from your point of view and the club’s point of view that you want to free up some (salary cap) space.

“It is a business in the end. I was looking forward to playing for Kev this year but obviously they had different intentions.

“They wanted to get rid of me — they might not tell me that — but I know they wanted to get rid of me.”

So, as @Big Pete suggested earlier, Bird gets mixed messages, Walters wants him, the club doesn't. Seems to me it's a bit of a leap to infer from the media that Bird just wanted to up and go. So, from me, there is no vitriol, nor ill will towards Bird. We signed him, (at the same time as Milford and Boyd), and we punted him. I just don't get the anti-Bird vitriol on here

I’m on my phone at lunch, so will have to keep it short(ish).

I don’t mind that Bird feels confused and unsure hearing different things from different people at the club. I get that.

What I don’t like is that; after the club has stood by him the last 3 years and then (from most reports at least) granted him a release after he took his player option and will now pay some of his 2021 salary as a result of him taking said PO, he has the gall to publicly declare that he “felt like they gave up on me because of my injuries”.

If he turned up at the Roosters like he did to us, there’s a good chance he would have failed a mysterious drug test.

As I said in another post, this club has monumentally fucked up a lot lately. But personally, I don’t know what more they could have possibly done for Bird.

 

[broncos4life]

I'm not sure I agree with this. Does Bird deserve any vitriol at all?

From what I have observed in the media - and where else does one get the info - going back to Oct 2, the waters, or may the Wa(l)ters, are muddied. For example here : https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...y/news-story/81973b8087b23514e74a2d89e66603e0 .... I read this:

"Brisbane coach Kevin Walters told Bird that he would like him to stay and see out the final year of his contract, worth upwards of $950,000. Others told Bird that he was free to go because the Broncos needed to ease the strain on their salary cap.

“Kevvie kept telling me he wanted me to stay,” Bird told The Weekend Australian.

“I felt like if he wanted me to stay he could have stepped in. I love Kev. Me and Kev are good mates. There are no hard feelings.

“I understand the reasons they want to get rid of me. I spoke to Kev last night. He rang me and asked if I was going.

“I told Kev I understand from your point of view and the club’s point of view that you want to free up some (salary cap) space.

“It is a business in the end. I was looking forward to playing for Kev this year but obviously they had different intentions.

“They wanted to get rid of me — they might not tell me that — but I know they wanted to get rid of me.”

So, as @Big Pete suggested earlier, Bird gets mixed messages, Walters wants him, the club doesn't. Seems to me it's a bit of a leap to infer from the media that Bird just wanted to up and go. So, from me, there is no vitriol, nor ill will towards Bird. We signed him, (at the same time as Milford and Boyd), and we punted him. I just don't get the anti-Bird vitriol on here

Even if that is the case he has landed himself another 2 years at a Sydney club when he wants to go back to Sydney, what is the big deal.

Whether there were mixed messages or not after 3 years of picking up close to a million a year while contributing nothing but being rehabbed AND already securing my next 2 years in the city I wanted I would be keeping my fucking mouth shut.

 

[Huge]

I'm not sure I agree with this. Does Bird deserve any vitriol at all?

From what I have observed in the media - and where else does one get the info - going back to Oct 2, the waters, or maybe the Wa(l)ters, are muddied. For example here : https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...y/news-story/81973b8087b23514e74a2d89e66603e0 .... I read this:

"Brisbane coach Kevin Walters told Bird that he would like him to stay and see out the final year of his contract, worth upwards of $950,000. Others told Bird that he was free to go because the Broncos needed to ease the strain on their salary cap.

“Kevvie kept telling me he wanted me to stay,” Bird told The Weekend Australian.

“I felt like if he wanted me to stay he could have stepped in. I love Kev. Me and Kev are good mates. There are no hard feelings.

“I understand the reasons they want to get rid of me. I spoke to Kev last night. He rang me and asked if I was going.

“I told Kev I understand from your point of view and the club’s point of view that you want to free up some (salary cap) space.

“It is a business in the end. I was looking forward to playing for Kev this year but obviously they had different intentions.

“They wanted to get rid of me — they might not tell me that — but I know they wanted to get rid of me.”

So, as @Big Pete suggested earlier, Bird gets mixed messages, Walters wants him, the club doesn't. Seems to me it's a bit of a leap to infer from the media that Bird just wanted to up and go. So, from me, there is no vitriol, nor ill will towards Bird. We signed him, (at the same time as Milford and Boyd), and we punted him. I just don't get the anti-Bird vitriol on here

I feel dirty. I agree with you.

 

[Kimlo]

Even if that is the case he has landed himself another 2 years at a Sydney club when he wants to go back to Sydney, what is the big deal.

Whether there were mixed messages or not after 3 years of picking up close to a million a year while contributing nothing but being rehabbed AND already securing my next 2 years in the city I wanted I would be keeping my fucking mouth shut.

Exactly this. Bird can get fucked. Bad mouthing the employers who were paying him nearly a million a year for absolute **** all on top of what I bet is fairly large rehab costs.

The only thing Jack **** should have said is I'm really disappointed to be leaving early and I wish I could have done more in my time here but I'll be leaving on good terms. Bagging out the club is absolute wanker level given he's been nothing but a burden to the club.