Knights set to sign Ben Hunt

[Foordy]

FTR, Wallace is currently sitting equal third for try assists with 5 and equal second for line break assists also with 5.

Just saying.

 

[Coxy]

FTR, Wallace is currently sitting equal third for try assists with 5 and equal second for line break assists also with 5.

Just saying.

Interesting. If they had stats for it, he'd be ranked 1 for bone headed plays too, just ahead of prince and Hayne

 

[Kimlo]

Wallace is not our problem. He's our best half at this club as of right now. He's better than both Norman and Prince.
I don't know what games you guys have been watching but in every single one of them Wallace has been better than Prince in every aspect... He's also a pretty handy goal kicker so Prince doesn't really gain an advantage there.

What we should do is dump Prince, give him one more game if he still dishes up absolute shit then just drop him and lets play out the season with Wallace and Hunt. Titans are paying most of Prince's wage anyway.

 

[Anonymous person]

FTR, Wallace is currently sitting equal third for try assists with 5 and equal second for line break assists also with 5.

Just saying.

i dont know if its the same stats, but on the weekend the fantasy league sites gave wallace 3 try assists for the 2nd man plays, when in reality they should be going to the "2nd man" (norman in all cases i believe), so i wouldnt read much into that. also, if you throw a pass to a guy who then beats 5 defenders and runs 80m to score, they give you a line break assist and try assist. stats can paint a nice picture, but they can also be very misleading in regard to try assists.

 

[Nashy]

Maybe the Broncos are getting rid of some of their young over paid talent to free up cap space to buy some decent players.

 

[broncos4life]

FTR, Wallace is currently sitting equal third for try assists with 5 and equal second for line break assists also with 5.

Just saying.

No Foordy, don't bring in supporting stats. The official opinion on Wallace is his useless remember

 

[tkday]

I'm over Wallace as well, I wouldn't mind keeping him in the team if Hunt turns out alright and we can buy another half. Wallace would be a good bench utility or hooker. He can backup one of the halves if they are injured too. Just next contract downgrade the amount we pay him. Anyway, for now I say drop Prince and put Hunt in there. Just to see how he goes, then we can judge it better and see if we want to keep him. We lose nothing if we get rid of Prince for now, I certainly don't think it would weaken our team as it currently is. Longer term, if Hunt works out we buy another half to pair him.

 

[Coxy]

i dont know if its the same stats, but on the weekend the fantasy league sites gave wallace 3 try assists for the 2nd man plays, when in reality they should be going to the "2nd man" (norman in all cases i believe), so i wouldnt read much into that. also, if you throw a pass to a guy who then beats 5 defenders and runs 80m to score, they give you a line break assist and try assist. stats can paint a nice picture, but they can also be very misleading in regard to try assists.

Totally agree. Hence the statistical comparisons you've done in the past have been laughed at.

Frankly I think statistics are almost entirely useless for anything but fantasy footy.

 

[Anonymous person]

Totally agree. Hence the statistical comparisons you've done in the past have been laughed at.

Frankly I think statistics are almost entirely useless for anything but fantasy footy.

well like i said, some stats like try assists can be very misleading, but others arent.

theres nothing misleading about someone being on the field for 50 minutes and making 4 hitups.
theres nothing misleading or laughable about comparing someone making 20 line breaks and someone else making only 4.

but like i pointed out, someone passing a ball to a guy whos on his own 20m line with 5 defenders in front of them who then beats them all and runs 80m to score, and it counting as a try assist, well thats misleading.

lets not forget that ive been laughed at for many things on here - suggesting 6+ years ago that Slater will be the best fullback the games ever seen, not being happy with wallace in his first year and saying that he will never be anything more than mediocre, suggesting we should buy carney years ago because he'll be a great player, hell even suggesting we should go for dugan this year (im 99% sure i was the first to suggest it on here).

 

[tkday]

I think some stats, like how many errors, missed tackles, tackles do have some merrit, but I know that they are not completely accurate. ARM, HU are a good indicator that your forwards are doing their job as well. Granted they don't tell the whole story, but they give you an idea.

 

[Coxy]

They're sometimes a chance to verify or disprove an impression you get about a player's performance. That's all. I can't stand it when people look at the stats and based on that say who played well. Watch the fuggin' game. There's players who have scored 4 tries and done nothing but fall over the line.

 

[Bull Shark]

I find it strange you don't see much in him Sharky. Aren't you Cooper Cronk's biggest fan on here? (Will you let him claim that AP and Qlder?) Can't you see the similarities between Hunt now and Cronk pre-06?

I wonder what Hunt is like as a trainer?

am a massive fan of Cooper Cronk BP mainly because of how he became the player he is - ie a self-made type who wasn't the most talented or gifted by just worked his tail off and continues to work harder than anyone else.


Cooper Cronk is a shining example that hard work and diligence can turn a seemingly average player with less than fantastic natural talent and athletic gifts, into a superb RL player. But Cronk is an extremely rare individual because he clearly has an inner drive and an incredible appetite for hard work that few players can match.

 

[coreyh88]

How does Wallace get labelled a good organiser when we're usually directionless on tackle 3 when we're desperately searching for points?

He must be fantastic at organising a flat straight line because that's usually how the Broncos are standing.

hey, he does it better than a ruler could. But seriously it could be him macca or hook that causes it at this stage and it has improved slightly this year.

 

[Bucking Beads]

What surprises me is the club and Hook have been so confident in Norman and even rate him so highly they put him to fullback just to keep him in the side. They now are just letting him without any quality replacements on the horizon. Another drama is the fact that there isn't many options for us on the open market. We either need to get someone to ask for a release (DCE type) or sign an average half or sign highly rated youngsters and back them (Milford, Keary)

 

[Porthoz]

i dont know if its the same stats, but on the weekend the fantasy league sites gave wallace 3 try assists for the 2nd man plays, when in reality they should be going to the "2nd man" (norman in all cases i believe), so i wouldnt read much into that. also, if you throw a pass to a guy who then beats 5 defenders and runs 80m to score, they give you a line break assist and try assist. stats can paint a nice picture, but they can also be very misleading in regard to try assists.

Actually, they only give an assist to a player if his contribution was significant/decisive in the outcome (be it a try or line break). Just saying...

 

[Anonymous person]

Actually, they only give an assist to a player if his contribution was significant/decisive in the outcome (be it a try or line break). Just saying...

like i said, i dont know if its the same stats, but youll find that most fantasy league sites do NOT take any significance/decisiveness into consideration - if you did the last pass, you get the assist. i know because ive had one of my guys do all the work, draw all the defenders, create the overlap, offload to someone who simply runs 1m and passes to a guy who goes through untouched and scores, and that guy was the one who got the assists - not my guy.

just saying...

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

like i said, i dont know if its the same stats, but youll find that most fantasy league sites do NOT take any significance/decisiveness into consideration - if you did the last pass, you get the assist. i know because ive had one of my guys do all the work, draw all the defenders, create the overlap, offload to someone who simply runs 1m and passes to a guy who goes through untouched and scores, and that guy was the one who got the assists - not my guy.

just saying...

i dont think theres any consistency in it. take for example last week SKD actually did most of the work for one of Shecks tries, including the line break, and final pass, but the assist went to pearce. Its a very subjective stat and is not very accurate

having said that, what porthoz said is correct. vapor media (the guys who do stats for fantasy league) have stated the try assist goes to the person who contributes most, not the last pass. sadly they are very inconsistent

 

[Anonymous person]

having said that, what porthoz said is correct. vapor media (the guys who do stats for fantasy league) have stated the try assist goes to the person who contributes most, not the last pass. sadly they are very inconsistent

on paper yes, but in reality no (like you said, and like i was saying).