Marquee Players

[Nashy]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Just scrap the stupid fucking cap.

Not that it would help Brisbane, because apparently Gee can't sign anyone anyway.

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

It's not ludicrous if all teams are allowed to do the same thing. The increase in the salary cap has further divided the top clubs from the bottom. Players aren't moving as much as previous seasons. I'm sure there'd be a lot more movement if each club could purchase a marquee player.

Well it is ludicrous because some clubs can't afford to spend the full salary cap as it currently is. So to essentially raise it by another million will mean that some clubs have a fair better roster than others are capable of. For what it's worth I hate the salary cap, all I'm saying is if they are going to bring this in the might as well just scrap the cap

 

[Nashy]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Well it is ludicrous because some clubs can't afford to spend the full salary cap as it currently is. So to essentially raise it by another million will mean that some clubs have a fair better roster than others are capable of. For what it's worth I hate the salary cap, all I'm saying is if they are going to bring this in the might as well just scrap the cap

So all clubs should suffer because some deadshit ex footballers can't run a business?

Where are these protections in the real world? If the company you work for is not run correctly, and they can't make money, they either get rid of staff, or go bankrupt. It should be no different.

 

[88to2006Glorydays]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Spot on Nashy

 

[Alec]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Salary cap is just a blight on the game. Punishing success, supposedly "evening out" the competition (not really), it's a joke.

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

So all clubs should suffer because some dead**** ex footballers can't run a business?

Where are these protections in the real world? If the company you work for is not run correctly, and they can't make money, they either get rid of staff, or go bankrupt. It should be no different.

Eh that's not even close to my point. All I was saying is it seems pointless to have this marquee allowance when it just make the salary cap higher and not all clubs can reach it.

As I said before, I don't like the salary cap and think it should be scraped, I just also think this marquee allowance is a load of shit. Take the bulldogs for example, if they wanted folau they would have to shed a barba or Morris... Not anymore, they an use that marquee allowance to make folau the folau the highest paid winger in the game.

 

[Ari Gold]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

That's the whole point of the marquee allowance though. It prevents teams from paying 1mil to every elite player, but allows every team to do it for one player, enabling the NRL to keep players like Folau in the NRL rather than in a rival code.

 

[Nashy]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Eh that's not even close to my point. All I was saying is it seems pointless to have this marquee allowance when it just make the salary cap higher and not all clubs can reach it.

As I said before, I don't like the salary cap and think it should be scraped, I just also think this marquee allowance is a load of shit. Take the bulldogs for example, if they wanted folau they would have to shed a barba or Morris... Not anymore, they an use that marquee allowance to make folau the folau the highest paid winger in the game.

So what? They shouldn't be able to spend their money, earned from good business decisions, on a player which can only increase their brand?

 

[broncos4life]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

So what? They shouldn't be able to spend their money, earned from good business decisions, on a player which can only increase their brand?

**** me. Yes of course they should be able to, that's why I hate the salary cap. My point is, if you bought this in today there would be clubs that can't afford to pay that money.

So if club x can afford to pay there players 6 million, but club y can only afford to pay 4 million, then that's defeating the whole purpose of the salary cap. Hence my point that if they bring this in they should just get rid of the salary cap

 

[Nashy]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

**** me. Yes of course they should be able to, that's why I hate the salary cap. My point is, if you bought this in today there would be clubs that can't afford to pay that money.

So if club x can afford to pay there players 6 million, but club y can only afford to pay 4 million, then that's defeating the whole purpose of the salary cap. Hence my point that if they bring this in they should just get rid of the salary cap

It's not defeating the whole purpose of it at all. It's still limiting what those cashed up clubs can do with their money.

 

[vertigo]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Scrapping the cap is a real can of worms.

You'd end up seeing the same top clubs every year (albeit with great quality footy) and having a few fold in the process due to not being able to attract or hold onto talent.

And no that isn't a good thing, less teams means less games which means less money from TV rights deals.

 

[Nashy]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Scrapping the cap is a real can of worms.

You'd end up seeing the same top clubs every year (albeit with great quality footy) and having a few fold in the process due to not being able to attract or hold onto talent.

And no that isn't a good thing, less teams means less games which means less money from TV rights deals.

No, no cap means teams will have to become good at being a business, something that many of the poor Sydney clubs can't do. It will mean new teams in new areas, and less useless teams being propped up by the NRL.

 

[Morkel]

IMO, even the poorer clubs could make a marquee player allowance work. The marquee player should be part of their marketing strategies and potentially should bring in added sponsorship dollars. Just as important as, say, $1 mill being cap exempt, should be unlimited guaranteed 3rd party deals. Whore the player out to anyone willing to stump up the cash and it'd pay for itself.

 

[Splinter]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Why can't teams spend their cap money. My understanding is that the cap money is given to the clubs by the league. Certainly in the past.
Now I am under the assumption someone like Cronulla will get the full cap given to them but Broncos and Roosters would get only a percentage because they have more money. It is of no advantage for a club to be profitable from now on as I understand it so everyone should be able to spend right up to the cap. It is like the Labor party have taken over running of the NRL

 

[pennywisealfie]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Nashy is dominating this thread atm.

 

[Morkel]

Why can't teams spend their cap money. My understanding is that the cap money is given to the clubs by the league. Certainly in the past.
Now I am under the assumption someone like Cronulla will get the full cap given to them but Broncos and Roosters would get only a percentage because they have more money. It is of no advantage for a club to be profitable from now on as I understand it so everyone should be able to spend right up to the cap. It is like the Labor party have taken over running of the NRL

They all get the same money from the NRL. In the past there was a gap between the cap and the grants given to clubs, but that's now closed and covered. It's the other expenses, the day-to-day running, the coaching staff, the facilities, that teams have to pay for themselves, and that's where the discrepancies between the rich & poor clubs lie.

But yeah, if the NRL fronts up whatever the marquee allowance is, and they should because keeping the stars in the game is really a benefit to the NRL itself, then really clubs aren't paying any more than they are now.

 

[Ari Gold]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

No, no cap means teams will have to become good at being a business, something that many of the poor Sydney clubs can't do. It will mean new teams in new areas, and less useless teams being propped up by the NRL.

There are some dangers though. Yes some areas would support a team (Perth, Wellington) but what if more than 2 clubs fold? Maybe Sunshine Coast and Central Coast could support a team, but it wouldn't be a powerhouse team. Also, allowing for unlimited spending has a real potential for failure with private backers who go bankrupt. You see this happen a lot in Football (Soccer) and you only have to look at the Knights and Tinkler to see the potential danger. Imagine if he went belly up after backing the Knights with no salary cap!

 

[Coxy]

Re: [RUMOUR] Barba to Broncos

Scrap the cap. Stop propping up clubs. sure, we might have a 6 club competition, but it'll be way better.