-OFFICIAL- Mr Consistent cements two more years

kooly87

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The consistency thing is a bit overrated. Would you prefer Josh Jackson or SBW in your side?
Would completely depend on the rest of the side I had and what I felt I needed most.

Not sure its a great comparison in the context of this argument though. Jackson and Glenn might compare similarly, but peak SBW is still quite a lot better than TPJ at this stage. SBW had X-factor and was still quite a complete and consistent player, which you can't say about TPJ yet.
 
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Morepudding

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The quotes from Seibold about wanting the players to follow Glenn and the stuff he does. Surely he is made captain. I honestly want Boyd to rot in Qcup and get absolutely mauled each week.
 

Morepudding

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The consistency thing is a bit overrated. Would you prefer Josh Jackson or SBW in your side?
This is a terrible comparison. SBW, particularly with the roosters, was very consistent.

A better comparison would be Josh Jackson or David Taylor.
 

lynx000

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I'm not sure I'd agree that he's 'better' than Glenn. They're totally different players and offer different skill sets.

TPJ has huge swings in his form. At his best he can be devastating but at his worst, which still happens regularly enough, he can be a fair liability. His running game on an edge is on another level to Glenn, but his defence is still quite poor and especially compared to Glenn.

Glenn certainly doesn't have the explosive, match turning skill set that TPJ does. His best game is comfortably a level below TPJ's, but unlike TPJ his worst games are not that different to his best games and he's easily our most reliable player week in week out (as evidenced by winning this award 5 years running)

It's just horses for courses really and what suits the balance of the side best. TPJ can be 8-9/10 or 4-5/10, whereas Glenn is almost always a 7/10 and personally I think that level of reliability has been invaluable in the last couple of seasons.
It really comes back to the fact that you cannot have superstars in every position in your team and you have to have a few like Glenn, ultra professional, leader, someone you know what you are going to get virtually every game they run out. Glenn sits comfortably in with a group of players like Chris Johns, Michael De Vere, Darren Smith, Kevin Campion, Tunza.
 

kooly87

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It really comes back to the fact that you cannot have superstars in every position in your team and you have to have a few like Glenn, ultra professional, leader, someone you know what you are going to get virtually every game they run out. Glenn sits comfortably in with a group of players like Chris Johns, Michael De Vere, Darren Smith, Kevin Campion, Tunza.
If fielding a team of guys who have potential 9/10 - 4/10 performances in them on any given week was a good idea, the Warriors would have won some Premierships by now.
 
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Nepal Donkeys

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I seriously need to question you if you actually watch games or only highlight packages
Nope. I watch them. That’s when you see Glenn get tackled easily by halfbacks.
He scored two tries in 2019 because he doesn’t bust tackles and isn’t a threat at the line. His running game has declined markedly and his defensive impact is considerably overrated.
 

Purple Pills

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I feel sorry for Lexy,

Imagine having to take around a 50% pay cut whilst your still at least contributing amicably to the team with the likely added responsibility of having to take on the captaincy to guide us through this leadership void we find ourselves in whilst Darius is on 3 times the salary masquerading as a competent first grade NRL player.

Would be nothing more disheartening than being on a mediocre wage slugging your guts out doing the tough shit and then seeing your $700,000 captain take a fucking knee in a try saving scenario.

On a positive note this was a great resigning especially at the bargain basement price we got him on. Still is performing at a decent level and will no doubt have to take on more leadership responsibilities in 2020. Will be one of the best value players at our club in 2020 along with Croft, Turpin and Carrigan.
 

lynx000

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I feel sorry for Lexy,

Imagine having to take around a 50% pay cut whilst your still at least contributing amicably to the team with the likely added responsibility of having to take on the captaincy to guide us through this leadership void we find ourselves in whilst Darius is on 3 times the salary masquerading as a competent first grade NRL player.

Would be nothing more disheartening than being on a mediocre wage slugging your guts out doing the tough shit and then seeing your $700,000 captain take a fucking knee in a try saving scenario.

On a positive note this was a great resigning especially at the bargain basement price we got him on. Still is performing at a decent level and will no doubt have to take on more leadership responsibilities in 2020. Will be one of the best value players at our club in 2020 along with Croft, Turpin and Carrigan.
I hope he gets looked after by the club in some capacity when he finishes up.
 

1988bronco

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Can they structure the contracts with clauses to minimum results ? Like if the team misses the top 8 you might lose 10-20 percent of your money to be moved around to others if needed?
It seems that would help keep them honest to some degree.. that really annoys me thinking of the Boyd Glenn scenario.. choosing Boyd as a captain wouldn't of been made under any coach aside from Bennet in my opinion and was a poor decision
 

Purple Pills

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Can they structure the contracts with clauses to minimum results ? Like if the team misses the top 8 you might lose 10-20 percent of your money to be moved around to others if needed?
It seems that would help keep them honest to some degree.. that really annoys me thinking of the Boyd Glenn scenario.. choosing Boyd as a captain wouldn't of been made under any coach aside from Bennet in my opinion and was a poor decision
Well one positive that would come out of that hypothetical scenario would be you wouldn’t need a wild card system to reduce dead games as you would have probably anywhere between 14-16 teams in contention for a top 8 spot heading into the penultimate rounds when money is on the line seeing as money seems to be the only way to motivate 80% of players in this competition in the modern era rather then pride in the jersey and the community they are representing.
 

kooly87

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I feel sorry for Lexy,

Imagine having to take around a 50% pay cut whilst your still at least contributing amicably to the team with the likely added responsibility of having to take on the captaincy to guide us through this leadership void we find ourselves in whilst Darius is on 3 times the salary masquerading as a competent first grade NRL player.

Would be nothing more disheartening than being on a mediocre wage slugging your guts out doing the tough shit and then seeing your $700,000 captain take a fucking knee in a try saving scenario.

On a positive note this was a great resigning especially at the bargain basement price we got him on. Still is performing at a decent level and will no doubt have to take on more leadership responsibilities in 2020. Will be one of the best value players at our club in 2020 along with Croft, Turpin and Carrigan.
It's tough to cop, but there are significant advantages to being a Broncos Captain from a commercial perspective and they can continue for some time after he retires. I'd say he could have earned a little more elsewhere in the short term, but in the long term he'll retire as a one club player and Captain and that will likely prove pretty lucrative for him both now and after his footballing career is over.

If he can also add 'Premiership Winning Captain' to that resume, well even more so...
 
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Marty Deutschmann

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I feel sorry for Lexy,

Imagine having to take around a 50% pay cut whilst your still at least contributing amicably to the team with the likely added responsibility of having to take on the captaincy to guide us through this leadership void we find ourselves in whilst Darius is on 3 times the salary masquerading as a competent first grade NRL player.

Would be nothing more disheartening than being on a mediocre wage slugging your guts out doing the tough shit and then seeing your $700,000 captain take a fucking knee in a try saving scenario.

On a positive note this was a great resigning especially at the bargain basement price we got him on. Still is performing at a decent level and will no doubt have to take on more leadership responsibilities in 2020. Will be one of the best value players at our club in 2020 along with Croft, Turpin and Carrigan.
Maybe since they know Boyd won't be there next year Glenn could be backended for more in 2021
 

LGH

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It really comes back to the fact that you cannot have superstars in every position in your team and you have to have a few like Glenn, ultra professional, leader, someone you know what you are going to get virtually every game they run out. Glenn sits comfortably in with a group of players like Chris Johns, Michael De Vere, Darren Smith, Kevin Campion, Tunza.
And you just named 5 of my favourite players for just that reason. Plathy was my all time favourite 'get in there and get it done' player, but these guys and Glenn are on the list too. I'd add Shaun Berrigan and David Staggs to that list too.
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I don't think Glenn ever imagined he would be in the frame for captain, and neither did I in fact, yet here we are.
I imagined it years ago. In fact, I'm pretty sure he was being groomed for it, was it during Hook's reign? Then Bennett came back and Glenn got glossed over, but I've always thought Glenn would make a great captain, and now more than ever I can't see how Seibs could reasonably choose anyone else.
 
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kooly87

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And you just named 5 of my favourite players for just that reason. Plathy was my all time favourite 'get in there and get it done' player, but these guys and Glenn are on the list too. I'd add Shaun Berrigan and David Staggs to that list too.
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Personally I feel Glenn is maybe just slightly a level below most of those guys. I say that not because I don't rate Glenn (I do) but I think a lot of those guys you named were a fairly high standard of player, maybe with the exception of Staggs, who was good, but probably not as good as Glenn, and in my eyes that puts him two levels below the others.
 

LGH

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Personally I feel Glenn is maybe just slightly a level below most of those guys. I say that not because I don't rate Glenn (I do) but I think a lot of those guys you named were a fairly high standard of player, maybe with the exception of Staggs, who was good, but probably not as good as Glenn, and in my eyes that puts him two levels below the others.
Fair enough, I disagree, I think Glenn has consistently shown as much heart as those listed, Staggs may be a level below, but I still rate Glenn with the rest of our 'engine' guys.
 

kooly87

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Fair enough, I disagree, I think Glenn has consistently shown as much heart as those listed, Staggs may be a level below, but I still rate Glenn with the rest of our 'engine' guys.
If you're talking purely about heart then fair enough, absolutely. It's a bit subjective but I think I could mostly accept that and agree.

I was more talking about actual talent or ability. Like I said, not that I don't think he has plenty of both, but most of those guys mentioned I felt were just slightly a level above.
 

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