NRL 2022 Grand Final Discussion

Dash said:
It doesn't though.

The top draft picks go to the shit teams, they spend 2 or 3 years getting them fit and matured into first grade players before they bugger off to a top 4 team for unders because they want to win a premiership.
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Exactly- Lynch comes to mind straight away- Suns had 8/13 top picks in the first year and how many are now off playing somewhere else.
 
1910 said:
Exactly- Lynch comes to mind straight away- Suns had 8/13 top picks in the first year and how many are now off playing somewhere else.
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Well:
Pick 1 - Swallow - still at the Suns
Pick 2 - Bennell - Retired but was at the Suns until being delisted, later picked up by the Dockers
Pick 3 - Day - still at the Suns
Pick 7 - Caddy - Traded to the Tigers in 2017 (after 6 years, pretty decent amount of time at the Suns)
Pick 9 - Prestia - Traded to the Tigers in 2017 (after 6 years, pretty decent amount of time at the Suns)
Pick 10 - Gorringe - Traded to Carlton in 2016 and was then delisted end of that season, so basically a bust
Pick 11 - Lynch - Was captain and traded to the Tigers in 2019 (after 8 years and while the Suns were a basket case)
Pick 13 - Tape - Played at the Suns his whole career until delisted in 2016
Pick 39 - Taylor - Played two years at the Suns and then delisted (not uncommon for a player picked in the 30s)
Pick 49 - Gillbee - Played three years at the Suns and then delisted

So 4 of those 10 went elsewhere, all of whom were after several years. How many first year players at NRL clubs are still there 6 or 7 years later? The draft is not perfect but this is nowhere near as bad as some would like you to believe.
 
Sproj said:
Well:
Pick 1 - Swallow - still at the Suns
Pick 2 - Bennell - Retired but was at the Suns until being delisted, later picked up by the Dockers
Pick 3 - Day - still at the Suns
Pick 7 - Caddy - Traded to the Tigers in 2017 (after 6 years, pretty decent amount of time at the Suns)
Pick 9 - Prestia - Traded to the Tigers in 2017 (after 6 years, pretty decent amount of time at the Suns)
Pick 10 - Gorringe - Traded to Carlton in 2016 and was then delisted end of that season, so basically a bust
Pick 11 - Lynch - Was captain and traded to the Tigers in 2019 (after 8 years and while the Suns were a basket case)
Pick 13 - Tape - Played at the Suns his whole career until delisted in 2016
Pick 39 - Taylor - Played two years at the Suns and then delisted (not uncommon for a player picked in the 30s)
Pick 49 - Gillbee - Played three years at the Suns and then delisted

So 4 of those 10 went elsewhere, all of whom were after several years. How many first year players at NRL clubs are still there 6 or 7 years later? The draft is not perfect but this is nowhere near as bad as some would like you to believe.
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So three went on to be dual premiership players at the Tigers after Suns put in all the work and drafted them- wasn't that @Dash point in the first place?

The weak still get fed on by the strong/big just happens five years later.
 
Imagine being a die-hard Wests Tigers supporter. You've given up weekends and thousands of your hard earned money and your biggest signing of next season says this:


Even if I'd give him some benefit of the doubt, it's such a disrespectful thing to say.
 
Big Pete said:
Imagine being a die-hard Wests Tigers supporter. You've given up weekends and thousands of your hard earned money and your biggest signing of next season says this:


Even if I'd give him some benefit of the doubt, it's such a disrespectful thing to say.
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like us, they're getting a key spine player and a quality back rower from the sides in the GF.

unlike us, both of their key signings have been disrespecting them.
 
1910 said:
So three went on to be dual premiership players at the Tigers after Suns put in all the work and drafted them- wasn't that @Dash point in the first place?

The weak still get fed on by the strong/big just happens five years later.
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And? That's how trades work man, plus teams like the Gold Coast get compensated for it happening. Let's not pretend it is one way traffic here either.

The Gold Coast picked up Gary Ablett THE best player in the comp at the time when they came in from Geelong, one of the biggest beneficiaries in this system. They have also picked up Lachie Weller and Mabior Chol recently. All clubs benefit and are disadvantaged in this system.

Brisbane has also benefitted despite being a basket case formerly and one of the teams that would have been very much one of those that were picked for go home players. We've picked up Lachie Neale (he's won a Brownlow since), McCarthy and Cockatoo and Fort from Geelong in fact, Gunston, Hodge and Birchall from Hawthorn and Dunkley from the Bulldogs. Also got Beams from Collingwood in his prime.

It doesn't always work out either. Nathan Buckley famously left the Lions for, in his words, to win flags. The Lions went on to win three back-to-back, Buckley won nothing, he did have front row seats though in two of those GF's as his team was beaten by the Lions, 'twas beautiful.
 
Foordy said:
like us, they're getting a key spine player and a quality back rower from the sides in the GF.

unlike us, both of their key signings have been disrespecting them.
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How did Api disrespect them?
 
I see FoxLeague deleted the tweet.

Their social media guy found it funny as well which is a pretty dumb look.
 
I dont know what people wanted Parra to do. I didn't think they were that bad. They were in it physically imo just that Penrith team is the best club team the last 20 years. They belt anyone with that performance. I thought they did well for it to not be a bigger scoreline. Those Penrith forwards looked like they were on juice.
 
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