There doesn't have to be separation, if you roll the ball along the ground forward it's a knock-on.
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I felt the same watching it, but figured the downward pressure would be enough to get it in.
Yeah blown up as a try
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I felt the same watching it, but figured the downward pressure would be enough to get it in.
Did the ref on field call it a try?
I cant recall.
Right! i do see how rolling it forward is a knock on, but in a fraction of a second, at the same time as downward pressure, how do you make the call either way?[st_table="45%"][st_tr][st_td_row="2"][/st_td_row][st_td]Dixpat - nzwarriors.com[/st_td][/st_tr][st_tr][st_td="0.7"]JOINED: .February 3, 2014
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He did
So putting a hand on the ball which is on the ground over the goal line is now a knock on and not a try?
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When I was watching the Tago try last night, I was thinking that it just didn't look like a try, but I couldn't figure out why.
It just looked like a knock on and I kept thinking it would be touch and go... then when the bunker started looking I was like "of course he's pushed it into the ground so a clear knock on"
There was the one last week where a captains challenge was put in and the only reason it didn't come away from his hands was because of the ground being there... can't remember if it remained a knock on or not, but the Tago one is the same... and cricket catches are the same... it's only not been spilled, because the ground is there to help them get control of it
You can ground the ball over the try line, I think the main issue with the Tago was grounding it initially, but then picking it up off the ground.[st_table="45%"][st_tr][st_td_row="2"][/st_td_row][st_td]Dixpat - nzwarriors.com[/st_td][/st_tr][st_tr][st_td="0.7"]JOINED: .February 3, 2014
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So putting a hand on the ball which is on the ground over the goal line is now a knock on and not a try?
My clear recollection of what the bunker offical said was in essence that the ball was on the ground, he put his hand on it with downward pressure and that constitutes a k-o[st_table="45%"][st_tr][st_td_row="2"][/st_td_row][st_td]BroncsFan - broncoshq.com[/st_td][/st_tr][st_tr][st_td="0.7"]JOINED: .July 28, 2016
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You can ground the ball over the try line, I think the main issue with the Tago was grounding it initially, but then picking it up off the ground.
If he dives on it and momentum gets him across the line, then all good, but his first touch is downward pressure and his hand is like a claw... so he's not really in control of the ball... I can't recall if the ball is moving in his hand after he's first touched it, but if it was then it would be that he doesn't have control of it whilst it's being pushed in a forward motion
Its so sketchy, you have guys brush a ball with a finger tip at full speed but its considered downward pressure, even if the ball rockets forward after his finger lightly brushes it into the ground.
I'd have to see a replay of it again, but I just thought on the first replay from the bunker.. "yep knock on"... and then didn't really pay much attention from then on.[st_table="45%"][st_tr][st_td_row="2"][/st_td_row][st_td]Dixpat - nzwarriors.com[/st_td][/st_tr][st_tr][st_td="0.7"]JOINED: .February 3, 2014
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My clear recollection of what the bunker offical said was in essence that the ball was on the ground, he put his hand on it with downward pressure and that constitutes a k-o
whereas a k-o by definition occurs when a player propels the ball forward towards the opponents goal line
