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Sproj said:
I guess he’ll be looking for another club then hey? I bet Benny is asking, gets to trumpet a big signing who he can fix.
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Following in the great footsteps of Dave Taylor
 
Even the MRC knows better than to punish a player for the act of telling the truth. It's like someone accusing you of being a racist for calling Anthony Mundine a massive wanker....It just doesn't wash.
 
more recent examples of the NRL's incompetence and unprofessionalism.

The first example is that the NRL still haven't finalised next years salary cap, with 2 rounds to go in the regular season. I don't know how teams can be expected to plan adequately for next year (and future years) if they don't know how much they can spend on players.

the second example is Souths pulling out of the US trip in round 1 next year against Manly. they've pulled out because the NRL haven't given them any concrete information about the clash and they believe it is too late to do it properly now, in addition to the proximity of the clash to the World Cup

Souths CEO Blake Solly says:

“We have always been consistent that if it is part of a long-term strategy in the US, we would like to be part of it,” Souths CEO Blake Solly told The Daily Telegraph.

“But given that it is late August and the game is supposed to happen in March, and we don’t have any concrete information, we’re not sure how we can succeed there in 2023.

“There is also the complication of the World Cup, All-Stars in Rotorua. We think the game would be best served by holding on and doing it properly in 2024.”
 
Foordy said:
more recent examples of the NRL's incompetence and unprofessionalism.

The first example is that the NRL still haven't finalised next years salary cap, with 2 rounds to go in the regular season. I don't know how teams can be expected to plan adequately for next year (and future years) if they don't know how much they can spend on players.

the second example is Souths pulling out of the US trip in round 1 next year against Manly. they've pulled out because the NRL haven't given them any concrete information about the clash and they believe it is too late to do it properly now, in addition to the proximity of the clash to the World Cup

Souths CEO Blake Solly says:

“We have always been consistent that if it is part of a long-term strategy in the US, we would like to be part of it,” Souths CEO Blake Solly told The Daily Telegraph.

“But given that it is late August and the game is supposed to happen in March, and we don’t have any concrete information, we’re not sure how we can succeed there in 2023.

“There is also the complication of the World Cup, All-Stars in Rotorua. We think the game would be best served by holding on and doing it properly in 2024.”
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Man, I'm not surprised. They screw absolutely everything up.
 
Kimlo said:
TPJ playing reserve grade. Big ouch for a 925k forward.
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It doesn't seem like that long ago ppl on here were creaming themselves when he was with us and calling others haters for pointing out his shortcomings.
 
Dexter said:
It doesn't seem like that long ago ppl on here were creaming themselves when he was with us and calling others haters for pointing out his shortcomings.
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He is a talented player with horrible drive and a huge ego. Most people were creaming over his potential, only to shoot dry loads whenever he failed to turn up.
 
Foordy said:
more recent examples of the NRL's incompetence and unprofessionalism.

The first example is that the NRL still haven't finalised next years salary cap, with 2 rounds to go in the regular season. I don't know how teams can be expected to plan adequately for next year (and future years) if they don't know how much they can spend on players.

the second example is Souths pulling out of the US trip in round 1 next year against Manly. they've pulled out because the NRL haven't given them any concrete information about the clash and they believe it is too late to do it properly now, in addition to the proximity of the clash to the World Cup

Souths CEO Blake Solly says:

“We have always been consistent that if it is part of a long-term strategy in the US, we would like to be part of it,” Souths CEO Blake Solly told The Daily Telegraph.

“But given that it is late August and the game is supposed to happen in March, and we don’t have any concrete information, we’re not sure how we can succeed there in 2023.

“There is also the complication of the World Cup, All-Stars in Rotorua. We think the game would be best served by holding on and doing it properly in 2024.”
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It was like 10 years ago when the cap went up pretty dramatically and the Roosters ended up signing Maloney, Jennings, SBW and some others during that offseason. Chances are they are waiting for the Roosters to get their signings ready again and then adjust the cap so it fits nicely for them.
 
Dexter said:
It doesn't seem like that long ago ppl on here were creaming themselves when he was with us and calling others haters for pointing out his shortcomings.
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I'm actually a fan of TPJ, I think on his day he's the best forward in the game but it's laughable he was paid 925k with how inconsistent and suspended he is. He's a 500k forward and there's some risk attached even at that price. His manager is a genius.
 
I don't think the cap increase does anything except upgrade existing commitments .
So if it's a 20% increase in cap everyone gets a 20% increase in pay.
 
Kimlo said:
I'm actually a fan of TPJ, I think on his day he's the best forward in the game but it's laughable he was paid 925k with how inconsistent and suspended he is. He's a 500k forward and there's some risk attached even at that price. His manager is a genius.
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I've rarely been a fan.
Same reason I don't like Tesi. Flashy players who don't get dirty and only show their talent in patches aren't my thing.
 
Dexter said:
It doesn't seem like that long ago ppl on here were creaming themselves when he was with us and calling others haters for pointing out his shortcomings.
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I think the hardest thing with TPJ is figuring out what position he should play.

Edge - great attacking upside, but cant defend for shit and gets badly fatigued leading to horrendous defensive mistakes. Is however the only place on the field that he can pump out decent minutes

Prop - simplified defence, not required to play long minutes, can utilise his aggression and offload... gets fatigued too easily and can probably only play 40mins, therefore not value for money considering how much he wants

Lock - he has decent ball playing that could be utilised in the position, simplified defence, aggression, offloads, etc.... fatigued far too easily and not value for money

Bench middle - all of the bonuses of prop except he's coming on when the opposition are fatiguing... not really value for money to sign and play as an aggressive impact forward.


Coaches that have utilised him the best are the ones that can get him on and off for 3 stints through the middle and pumping out about 50mins or so.... but that's a lot of tinkering and moving parts and you would likely need other middles to be playing bigger minutes to compensate his constant interchanging.

His other best role is bench impact forward, but that doesnt command the big bucks... so his manager gets him a good deal, with the sucker club "thinking" they can turn him into an 80min edge back row ("Kiks does it and he's just as big") only to find out he cant defend and then realise they have a bench prop on double the normal money that can't play the same amount of minutes
 
Pangai just doesnt take his career seriously. He's so unfit and he doesnt have the natural ability the Coal Train had to carry him for so long.
 
Wolfie said:
Pangai just doesnt take his career seriously. He's so unfit and he doesnt have the natural ability the Coal Train had to carry him for so long.
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Pangai is just a victim of being born in his next generation. If Dave Taylor was growing up on Instagram and rolling with "gangstas" he would be just like TPJ. Obviously, just my opinion
 
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