NRL Players and family members in hot water

[Kimlo]

Man, Burgess, what a low life if he was off his nut driving to pick up his little tiny kids. That is no good.

I was under the impression those tests can be you had cocaine 15 minutes or go, or a week ago, but I have no idea, I've always thought it simply detects whether you have any trace of it.

 

[broncsgoat]

Driving an unregistered vehicle, without a licence, on his way to pick up his kids.

Never mind the cocaine

 

[mrslong]

I was under the impression those tests can be you had cocaine 15 minutes or go, or a week ago, but I have no idea, I've always thought it simply detects whether you have any trace of it.

You’d certainly hope this is the case in this instance. Geeze.

 

[theshed]

Driving an unregistered vehicle, without a licence, on his way to pick up his kids.

Never mind the cocaine

Funny that he never had a license because there’s been about 3 articles over the years wanking him off about his latest luxury car purchase.

 

[Big Del]

I was under the impression those tests can be you had cocaine 15 minutes or go, or a week ago, but I have no idea, I've always thought it simply detects whether you have any trace of it.

Coke is out of the system in 2 days for a blood test .
Why so many NRL players like it . Play Friday , coked up Friday night . Clean at training Monday . Union testers caught Wendell Saturday morning ...

 

[Kooly87]

I was under the impression those tests can be you had cocaine 15 minutes or go, or a week ago, but I have no idea, I've always thought it simply detects whether you have any trace of it.

The roadside tests in NSW are basically saliva swabs and the results are supposed to be about it being recently enough consumed so as to impact your driving. The stupid part about this is that unlike alcohol which we all agree impairs your driving but since we have accepted it's consumption exists, there is a wealth of information and advice on how to as safely as possible consume alcohol and still drive a vehicle, no such information or guidelines exist for other drugs. This is especially insane as the whole logic for roadside drug testing being implemented was that it was a growing and significant problem, yet not significant enough that anyone in Government or the State regulatory bodies has done anything whatsoever to educate people about how they might as safely as possible do this if they wanted to take drugs and still drive a car at some point. NSW is only interested in punishments and fine revenue and absolutely uninterested in educating or correcting driver behaviour.

I personally know of people who have consumed a range of drugs and gone undetected the next day or even inside 18-24 hours. I don't personally know anyone who has been busted for consumption from a longer time frame than that, but plenty of stories exist of people being busted a few days or even a week later, but no idea if those are accurate or not.

I'd say, like alcohol, the ability for a person to consume drugs and pass a roadside drug test would vary wildly from person to person depending on their body type and physical characteristics. Burgess being an absolutely enormous person who still had a significant enough amount in his system to fail a roadside test suggests to me, without knowing for sure obviously, that his consumption was likely to have been pretty recent indeed.

 

[Allo]

Only option I see for Burgess is to kick Souths out of the comp again

 

[broncsgoat]

The roadside tests in NSW are basically saliva swabs and the results are supposed to be about it being recently enough consumed so as to impact your driving. The stupid part about this is that unlike alcohol which we all agree impairs your driving but since we have accepted it's consumption exists, there is a wealth of information and advice on how to as safely as possible consume alcohol and still drive a vehicle, no such information or guidelines exist for other drugs. This is especially insane as the whole logic for roadside drug testing being implemented was that it was a growing and significant problem, yet not significant enough that anyone in Government or the State regulatory bodies has done anything whatsoever to educate people about how they might as safely as possible do this if they wanted to take drugs and still drive a car at some point. NSW is only interested in punishments and fine revenue and absolutely uninterested in educating or correcting driver behaviour.

I personally know of people who have consumed a range of drugs and gone undetected the next day or even inside 18-24 hours. I don't personally know anyone who has been busted for consumption from a longer time frame than that, but plenty of stories exist of people being busted a few days or even a week later, but no idea if those are accurate or not.

I'd say, like alcohol, the ability for a person to consume drugs and pass a roadside drug test would vary wildly from person to person depending on their body type and physical characteristics. Burgess being an absolutely enormous person who still had a significant enough amount in his system to fail a roadside test suggests to me, without knowing for sure obviously, that his consumption was likely to have been pretty recent indeed.

A friend of mine was done last week for Coke - he had consumed it 15 hours prior to the test. He had also smoked weed within a similar time frame and the test didn't detect it. He was in NSW.

 

[Kooly87]

A friend of mine was done last week for Coke - he had consumed it 15 hours prior to the test. He had also smoked weed within a similar time frame and the test didn't detect it. He was in NSW.

Yep, that's what I was kinda getting at. It's far, far less accurate than something like a Urine or Blood Test. It's very hit and miss in detecting it at all and the timeframe it seems to work in can vary pretty wildly.

Depending on the amount consumed, I'm probably inclined to say 15 hours is too recent to be driving and you should get busted, but I do know people who have done it in a similar timeframe and gotten away with it. I'm in favour of proper education and information about what drugs do to your ability to drive and how time can lessen that impact so that people who do choose to consume drugs can make as informed decision as possible about when they might want to drive again.

Obviously people will abuse it anyway, but that already happens with alcohol and I don't see why we can't seek to educate the same way with drugs. The alternative is to do nothing except enforce the penalties when people are inevitably caught, which we already know in countless other behaviour areas does absolutely nothing to deter infringements but does significantly boost State revenue.

 

[BroncsFan]

Whatever happened to those allegations that Souths doctors were covering up his drug use and prescribing him medications under a false name or something??

 

[Midean]

Pretty simple though.
Don't drive if you have done drugs.

 

[Midean]

Whatever happened to those allegations that Souths doctors were covering up his drug use and prescribing him medications under a false name or something??

Yea this all got swept under the rug nicely didn't it.

 

[BroncsFan]

Yea this all got swept under the rug nicely didn't it.

Also still waiting to hear what CHN's punishment is for high range DUI... or was the punishment just Ricky indicating that he would drop his bench second rower and V'Lando assumed that would be enough???

 

[mrslong]

The double standards of the media really piss me off.
Payne haas *yells words* “ShOuLd Be BaNnEd FrOm SoCiEtY fOrEvErRr!!!!”
Sam Burgess *abuses wife and inlaws, takes illegal drugs, fraudulently falsifies blood tests, dead beat dad, allegedly drug driving to pick up kids* “ToP bLoKe, gets gig with old boys in media”

 

[BroncsFan]

The double standards of the media really piss me off.
Payne haas *yells words* “ShOuLd Be BaNnEd FrOm SoCiEtY fOrEvErRr!!!!”
Sam Burgess *abuses wife and inlaws, takes illegal drugs, fraudulently falsifies blood tests, dead beat dad, allegedly drug driving to pick up kids* “ToP bLoKe, gets gig with old boys in media”

"nOt hiS gO!!!"

 

[Kimlo]

Also still waiting to hear what CHN's punishment is for high range DUI... or was the punishment just Ricky indicating that he would drop his bench second rower and V'Lando assumed that would be enough???

We need to hear Abdo's opinion here. He's piped up about Staggs and Haas. Oh yeah and Naden to say rehab is the #1 goal and how concerned he is for his welfare that he sniffed some coke on GF day. Poor Naden, I hope he's getting through these difficult times.

 

[Kooly87]

Pretty simple though.
Don't drive if you have done drugs.

Sure, Simple Simon.

So at what point has someone 'done drugs' and at what point would you say this no longer impacts their ability to drive?

If you smoked a joint in the 70's are you supposed to still be using public transport and/or Uber?

 

[broncos4life]

The double standards of the media really piss me off.
Payne haas *yells words* “ShOuLd Be BaNnEd FrOm SoCiEtY fOrEvErRr!!!!”
Sam Burgess *abuses wife and inlaws, takes illegal drugs, fraudulently falsifies blood tests, dead beat dad, allegedly drug driving to pick up kids* “ToP bLoKe, gets gig with old boys in media”

This.