NRL Rumour and Movements - 2020

Unbreakable

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I assume this paves the way for Souths to release Gagai to the Titans, which will facilitate Arrow to the Bunnies in 2020.

Interesting side they can field next season, not sure they'll be premiership favourites, but they won't be far off -

1. Latrell Mitchell
2. Campbell Graham
3. Braidon Burns
4. James Roberts
5. Alex Johnston
6. Cody Walker
7. Adam Reynolds
8. Jai Arrow
9. Damien Cook
10. Tom Burgess
11. Jaydn Su'A
12. Ethan Lowe
13. Cameron Murray

14. Adam Doueihi
15. Liam Knight
16. Tevita Tatola
17. Mark Nicholls
 

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Bad signing= Louise's fault
The truth lays between those claims. Souths signed LM as the Broncos signed their players. Managers, coaches, admins and friends are all part of a signing at any club.
 

Big Pete

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Souths are currently ranked forth by the bookies but that's presumably without Mitchell and Arrow. If you look at the teams ranked ahead of them, there's every chance they can surpass them.

There's Canberra in 3rd who surprised a lot of teams with their no nonsense brand of football. We've seen Ricky Stuart coach teams come up with these type of seasons in the past, most notably Cronulla in 2008 and they struggled to back it up the following season. Their hopes ride on an untried halfback from Super League and while Ricky has had success in the past with other Super League players, their playmakers have often struggled in the NRL.

Melbourne haven't been the same since Cooper Cronk left. They're still a very good well drilled side, but they're missing that extra dimension Cronk bought and it's difficult envisioning them having the type of season they did last year.

Similarly, Sydney have been knocked down a peg following the loss of Cronk and Mitchell. While they did incredibly well to win back to back, they were complacent through out the regular season and I can't see that going away.
 

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Tbh I'm not convinced that Latrell had many other options. The Roosters didn't want a bar of him, and I am sure that the Tigers said that they were no longer interested? I'm sure the B bulldogs would have had a dig at him, but other then that I don't think he did himself any favours.
I'm still not convinced on Latrell, when the going gets tough he goes missing.
It'll be interesting to see how he kicks on from here.
 

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Souths are currently ranked forth by the bookies but that's presumably without Mitchell and Arrow. If you look at the teams ranked ahead of them, there's every chance they can surpass them.

There's Canberra in 3rd who surprised a lot of teams with their no nonsense brand of football. We've seen Ricky Stuart coach teams come up with these type of seasons in the past, most notably Cronulla in 2008 and they struggled to back it up the following season. Their hopes ride on an untried halfback from Super League and while Ricky has had success in the past with other Super League players, their playmakers have often struggled in the NRL.

Melbourne haven't been the same since Cooper Cronk left. They're still a very good well drilled side, but they're missing that extra dimension Cronk bought and it's difficult envisioning them having the type of season they did last year.

Similarly, Sydney have been knocked down a peg following the loss of Cronk and Mitchell. While they did incredibly well to win back to back, they were complacent through out the regular season and I can't see that going away.
I agree with your analysis re the other three. Souths are not without their issues though.

I believe that the pack is significantly weaker, and it is likely that they will not get the same go forward that Cooke relies upon to open his running game.

Reynolds is an ongoing significant injury risk with his issues and seems to be becoming more susceptible to injuries as he gets older. They are significantly weaker without him managing the team and minus his kicking game.

Cody is an enigmatic player and can have a great burst of form and then can go missing like he did last season particularly after the first two origin games.

Similar observations apply to Mitchell and Roberts if they choose to go that way in the centres.. Both can be brilliant but both can completely drift out of games and look disinterested.

If they try to play Mitchell at fullback, he will be lacking a lot of fitness, he has not played there for a while and it will take him some time in my view to both get his fitness up to the necessary level and to become familiar with the requirements of the position again. The issue of him drifting out of games will only be emphasised if he is playing fullback.

If everything goes their way, yes they could be a good chance of winning the whole thing, but there a lot of risk factors above. I could easily see them missing the top four.
 

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I agree on a lot of those points which is why I wouldn't necessarily install them as premiership favourites. Still, they have the cattle to surpass those teams and at this stage the competition looks far more open than it has in seasons gone by.

If Souths add Arrow to their roster, anything less than a Top 4 spot would be a major disappointment. If they can get Jai, it will off-set the loss of Sam who let's be honest was really struggling to get through last year.

I don't consider George Burgess a loss at all.
 

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Mitchell does not look fit at all. I think he will struggle with th aerobic demands of a fullback. I also think his defensive positioning and urgency at the back could be an issue if fatigued.
 

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I'm not a fan of all this talk that you need to be "elite fit" to be a fullback in the nrl.

Players of the style of Slater and Teddy have NRL coaches jumping at shadows around the need for fitness and speed as the key criteria for the position.

Everytime Justin Hodges got a chance to play fullback at the end of his career, he absolutely dominated, and I think Mitchell can be a similar style of player.

You don't have to do all the off ball running and rushing the line every single half chance to be a fullback.

So long as Souths get players other than Mitchell supporting Cook's runs (Walker as a Terry Lamb type) they'll do fine and Mitchell will add more depth back into the fullback role.
 

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I agree on a lot of those points which is why I wouldn't necessarily install them as premiership favourites. Still, they have the cattle to surpass those teams and at this stage the competition looks far more open than it has in seasons gone by.

If Souths add Arrow to their roster, anything less than a Top 4 spot would be a major disappointment. If they can get Jai, it will off-set the loss of Sam who let's be honest was really struggling to get through last year.

I don't consider George Burgess a loss at all.
They really do need to add Arrow though. Without him, they're probably a gun middle forward short and that will tell over the course of a full season. Still plenty of time for them to pull it off though, and if they can get him there a year early they probably become close to favourites, or at least as good as Melbourne and the Roosters who have both probably gone slightly backwards in terms of roster strength.
 

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**** him. He cut and run from us the moment things got hard and he was told we expected better effort from him. Weak pisshead.
Bingo. When you give yourself up as an indifferent turd like Roberts did, you shouldn't be too surprised when you lose all respect.
 

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If they get Arrow, on paper:

1. Raiders
2. Eels
3. Roosters
4. Souths
5. Storm
6. Cowboys
7. Broncos
8. Sea Eagles
9. Sharks
10. Knights
11. Dragons
12. Panthers
13. Warriors
14. Tigers
15. Bulldogs
16. Titans

something like that
 

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If they get Arrow, on paper:

1. Raiders
2. Eels
3. Roosters
4. Souths
5. Storm
6. Cowboys
7. Broncos
8. Sea Eagles
9. Sharks
10. Knights
11. Dragons
12. Panthers
13. Warriors
14. Tigers
15. Bulldogs
16. Titans

something like that
1. Roosters
2. Souths
3. Melbourne
4. Raiders
5. Sea Eagles
6. Eels
7. Knights
8. Broncos
9. Cowboys
10. Sharks
11. Panthers
12. Dragons
13. Bulldogs
14. Warriors
15. Titans
16. Tigers

The Roosters still have a huge amount of quality, but they should come back to the pack a bit this year. Souths with Arrow become a big chance. Melbourne should still have enough quality and experience to run inside the Top 4 comfortably and Canberra will probably still be pretty close, but they have challenges around an untested Halfback and the fact that a few more sides will have done their homework and have them figured out this year. If Manly had Fainu I think they could be a Top 4 chance, so their chances rest on finding a suitable replacement at Dummy Half for 2020.

I think the Knights will be a real surprise packet if they can get a kind run with injuries and Origin and I probably put us in that same boat too.
 
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Do we have to call him Jimmy the drunk? He has his personal issues but we don't have to stick the boot in.
Are you joking? After everything we did for him he cut and ran and disrespected the organisation on the way out. Add to that on the first game against us he knocked out a completely defenceless ex-teammate by ramming his head into the ground with one of the cheapest shots I have ever seen. The bloke is a dog and deserves everything he gets.
 

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1. Roosters
2. Souths
3. Melbourne
4. Raiders
5. Sea Eagles
6. Eels
7. Knights
8. Broncos
9. Cowboys
10. Sharks
11. Panthers
12. Dragons
13. Bulldogs
14. Warriors
15. Titans
16. Tigers

The Roosters still have a huge amount of quality, but they should come back to the pack a bit this year. Souths with Arrow become a big chance. Melbourne should still have enough quality and experience to run inside the Top 4 comfortably and Canberra will probably still be pretty close, but they have challenges around an untested Halfback and the fact that a few more sides will have done their homework and have them figured out this year. If Manly had Fainu I think they could be a Top 4 chance, so their chances rest on finding a suitable replacement at Dummy Half for 2020.

I think the Knights will be a real surprise packet if they can get a kind run with injuries and Origin and I probably put us in that same boat too.
Bit early for ladder predictions but with the current rosters of each team, here's what I think it might look like. Undoubtedly, this might change in two months time.

1 Souths
2 Sydney
3 Melbourne
4 Canberra
5 St George
6 NQ
7 Manly
8 Parramatta
9 Newcastle
10 Penrith
11 Brisbane
12 Cronulla
13 Canterbury
14 NZ
15 Wests
16 Gold Coast

Melb, Syd, Souths still look like the teams to beat for me with Manly and NQ as possible dark horses. It'll be a close run thing as per usual. St George the big improvers this year and the likes of Pen, Bris and Newc will threaten a playoff spot but may fall short.
 

lynx000

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Bit early for ladder predictions but with the current rosters of each team, here's what I think it might look like. Undoubtedly, this might change in two months time.

1 Souths
2 Sydney
3 Melbourne
4 Canberra
5 St George
6 NQ
7 Manly
8 Parramatta
9 Newcastle
10 Penrith
11 Brisbane
12 Cronulla
13 Canterbury
14 NZ
15 Wests
16 Gold Coast

Melb, Syd, Souths still look like the teams to beat for me with Manly and NQ as possible dark horses. It'll be a close run thing as per usual. St George the big improvers this year and the likes of Pen, Bris and Newc will threaten a playoff spot but may fall short.
Are you taking the piss???? Seriously? St George 5th and Broncos 11th? On what possible basis can St George improve that much given their losses and their recruiting. Relying on a halves combination of Hunt and Norman? Isaac Luke at hooker and no recognised fullback. This is not even mentioning the McGregor factor.

NQ 6th?? They have done reasonably well in recruiting, but a big question mark surrounds Holmes and his return, particularly in a fullback role. Also serious concerns about Michael Morgan and his longevity, plus the Green factor.

If you are taking the piss, very well played.
 

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