NRL stars on verge of revolution

[Anonymous person]

i dont like that the players are whinging about *only* getting match payments of $6k for a single test match. $6k for ONE game ON TOP of their already large salaries. geez i wish i could complain about ONLY getting a $6k bonus for one days work.

 

[Coxy]

i dont like that the players are whinging about *only* getting match payments of $6k for a single test match. $6k for ONE game ON TOP of their already large salaries. geez i wish i could complain about ONLY getting a $6k bonus for one days work.

Anyone know what, say, a Socceroo gets as a match payment for an international? Or a Wallaby?

Bear in mind in both cases they play far more internationals per year than in rugby league.

 

[Huge]

The players get 6 k ...fat arse bigwigs make 10 times that off the back of them for doing nothing other than running the game..basically doing a pretty simple job. Running a comps no harder than organizing a bus company or the like. It's not that difficult that you could'nt find a hundred different candidates to organize things....no way they should make so much money off the players and provide so little to earn it. They never break into a sweat.

 

[Coxy]

The players get 6 k ...fat arse bigwigs make 10 times that off the back of them for doing nothing other than running the game..basically doing a pretty simple job. Running a comps no harder than organizing a bus company or the like. It's not that difficult that you could'nt find a hundred different candidates to organize things....no way they should make so much money off the players and provide so little to earn it. They never break into a sweat.

Same can be said of executives in just about every company in the world. They get paid huge 6-figure salaries (some Australian CEOs get paid more than twice what the Prime Minister gets) based on the profits generated by the many many staff below them.

So it's not a relevant point.

 

[Anonymous person]

The players get 6 k ...fat arse bigwigs make 10 times that off the back of them for doing nothing other than running the game..basically doing a pretty simple job. Running a comps no harder than organizing a bus company or the like. It's not that difficult that you could'nt find a hundred different candidates to organize things....no way they should make so much money off the players and provide so little to earn it. They never break into a sweat.

thats how jobs work. the guy in a higher position than you gets lots more money and has to do a lot less work.

 

[Flutterby]

WOW you may all say "50K!! That's not much" - but if it is all the game can actually afford then it's enough. There are already a number of clubs that can't afford the current cap. Do you want the whole game to go broke??? The key is that the NRL and the clubs need to work harder to generate more revenue so that the game can afford to pay more to players. AND I would also say we need to look at administrator salaries - as with the players, most RL administrators don't get paid near the same as their counterparts in other codes. Maybe if we increased their salaries we would have better people running the game as well.

And as for CEO's getting paid more than the PM - Ricky Ponting gets paid more than the PM, which really says a lot about the priorties of our country, but that is another discussion entirely.

 

[gUt]

[quote="Huge.":b3jmewps]The players get 6 k ...fat arse bigwigs make 10 times that off the back of them for doing nothing other than running the game..basically doing a pretty simple job. Running a comps no harder than organizing a bus company or the like. It's not that difficult that you could'nt find a hundred different candidates to organize things....no way they should make so much money off the players and provide so little to earn it. They never break into a sweat.

thats how jobs work. the guy in a higher position than you gets lots more money and has to do a lot less work.[/quote:b3jmewps]

Just like Rugby Union players.

 

[Coxy]

WOW you may all say "50K!! That's not much" - but if it is all the game can actually afford then it's enough. There are already a number of clubs that can't afford the current cap. Do you want the whole game to go broke??? The key is that the NRL and the clubs need to work harder to generate more revenue so that the game can afford to pay more to players. AND I would also say we need to look at administrator salaries - as with the players, most RL administrators don't get paid near the same as their counterparts in other codes. Maybe if we increased their salaries we would have better people running the game as well.

Our game is not generating enough revenue because we have monetary sinkholes like Souths and Cronulla that are epic fails. Boot them out, boot manly out, boot Canberra out and we have 12 teams that are (mostly) profitable, or capable of turning a profit.

BRING BACK SUPER LEAGUE!

 

[Foordy]

IMO it is a lose-lose situation, don't raise the cap by much and people whinge that the players aren't paid enough, blah blah blah. but raise it too much or get rid of it (as some people suggest) and it will turn in the the EPL and only 2 or 3 clubs (probably the Broncos, Bulldogs and Roosters) will have any chance of winning the premiership, so people will complain about that.

the only way you could sustain a much higher cap is to have 10-12 teams with the cuts coming from the Sydney market, and that wont happen because the same people whinging that the players aren't paid enough will be the same people whinging that teams are being cut from the comp.

 

[Foordy]

WOW you may all say "50K!! That's not much" - but if it is all the game can actually afford then it's enough. There are already a number of clubs that can't afford the current cap. Do you want the whole game to go broke??? The key is that the NRL and the clubs need to work harder to generate more revenue so that the game can afford to pay more to players. AND I would also say we need to look at administrator salaries - as with the players, most RL administrators don't get paid near the same as their counterparts in other codes. Maybe if we increased their salaries we would have better people running the game as well.

And as for CEO's getting paid more than the PM - Ricky Ponting gets paid more than the PM, which really says a lot about the priorties of our country, but that is another discussion entirely.

The whole game won't go broke, you'll just have some teams that will go broke. Gallop needs to bite the bullet.

its not Gallops sole decision, the NRL board would have to make this type of decision. Gallop would just be the public figure. besides they can't let teams go broke before the TV rights deal end because they are contractually obligated to play 8 games a week, which can't be done with less teams,. and Nine certainly wouldn't budge on the deal

 

[gUt]

IMO it is a lose-lose situation, don't raise the cap by much and people whinge that the players aren't paid enough, blah blah blah. but raise it too much or get rid of it (as some people suggest) and it will turn in the the EPL and only 2 or 3 clubs (probably the Broncos, Bulldogs and Roosters) will have any chance of winning the premiership, so people will complain about that.

the only way you could sustain a much higher cap is to have 10-12 teams with the cuts coming from the Sydney market, and that wont happen because the same people whinging that the players aren't paid enough will be the same people whinging that teams are being cut from the comp.

That's not it at all. The players themselves will continue to be drained away overseas or to other codes. All the work that the NRL did to make them a marketable face will be capitalised by the NRL's competitors.

 

[Foordy]

IMO it is a lose-lose situation, don't raise the cap by much and people whinge that the players aren't paid enough, blah blah blah. but raise it too much or get rid of it (as some people suggest) and it will turn in the the EPL and only 2 or 3 clubs (probably the Broncos, Bulldogs and Roosters) will have any chance of winning the premiership, so people will complain about that.

the only way you could sustain a much higher cap is to have 10-12 teams with the cuts coming from the Sydney market, and that wont happen because the same people whinging that the players aren't paid enough will be the same people whinging that teams are being cut from the comp.

That's not it at all. The players themselves will continue to be drained away overseas or to other codes. All the work that the NRL did to make them a marketable face will be capitalised by the NRL's competitors.

but to keep these players in the game the cap would need to be raised by millions otherwise we still couldn't match the million dollar offers for the likes of Folau, Hunt, Thurston etc.

 

[Coxy]

IMO it is a lose-lose situation, don't raise the cap by much and people whinge that the players aren't paid enough, blah blah blah. but raise it too much or get rid of it (as some people suggest) and it will turn in the the EPL and only 2 or 3 clubs (probably the Broncos, Bulldogs and Roosters) will have any chance of winning the premiership, so people will complain about that.

the only way you could sustain a much higher cap is to have 10-12 teams with the cuts coming from the Sydney market, and that wont happen because the same people whinging that the players aren't paid enough will be the same people whinging that teams are being cut from the comp.

That's not it at all. The players themselves will continue to be drained away overseas or to other codes. All the work that the NRL did to make them a marketable face will be capitalised by the NRL's competitors.

but to keep these players in the game the cap would need to be raised by millions otherwise we still couldn't match the million dollar offers for the likes of Folau, Hunt, Thurston etc.

IMO we wouldn't need to match them, we'd just need to go close enough. The players prefer playing league. They prefer playing Origin.

But $1 million vs $400000 is a massive massive gap.

If the cap was raised even by 500K, it would allow a player like Thurston to be paid $600K, even $700K. Suddenly it's not so unappealing to stay.

Bear in mind there is already discontent among AFL and Union players that these imports get paid more than players that have come through all the ranks and are even stars of that sport already. Not even Johnathon Brown at the Lions is on as much as Harmichael will get from the Gold Coast AFL team (and AFL themselves)...

Western Sydney offering the same to Israel? A bloke who probably only occasionally kicks the ball as a muckaround at training?

Those offers to league converts will diminish as they start causing unrest amongst their own players, fans, supporters and administrators.

 

[Foordy]

Thurston has reportedly already been offered 600-700k a season by the Cowboys and is still likely to leave. or he would have signed that contract offer by now

 

[Coxy]

Thurston has reportedly already been offered 600-700k a season by the Cowboys and is still likely to leave. or he would have signed that contract offer by now

Firstly, note that line.
Secondly, look at the rest of the team they'll have as a result. He could accept it and be surrounded by a team of Mitch Rivetts.

If the cap goes up they can make him that offer AND retain guys like O'Donnell, Tonga, Southern etc and pay them what they're worth as well.

 

[Fozz]

Honestly, the NRL needs to stop hoping the next TV deal will give them the money needed to raise the cap and just do it now.

50k increase this year, 200k the next and 300k the year after for a total 550k increase. And when negotiating the next tv deal, start with a minimum figure that funds that. If we don't keep players in the game then the product gets devauled anyway.

DO IT, you clowns!

 

[Professor47]

Thurston has reportedly already been offered 600-700k a season by the Cowboys and is still likely to leave. or he would have signed that contract offer by now

The reported amounts always seem to be over and don't count the extra tid bits... it would be like 400 base + this and + that...

what we're looking towards is 700 BASE + this and that... suddenly it is VERY appealing to stay as the difference between the AFL deal and the NRL deal would be closer to 200k rather than 500k etc....

I mean a 21 yr old is literally faced with a 300-400k offer and a 800-1 mill offer... can you HONESTLY blame a 21 yr old for taking the bigger deal?... I for one cannot... in fact supposedly Izzy hasn't made a decision yet... if that is the case I actually think its big of him to still be thinking about it.

 

[Canga]

He has signed a contract with someone it just hasn't been announced as yet.