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theshed said:
I have no real qualms with Staggs situation except for how poorly the club managed it. They let it drag out far too long. Unlike Haas, Staggs at least had the decency to wait until he was off contract.
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I'm not keen on how it played out. He really wanted out, we let him mess us around, it was a shit show.
 
Wolfie said:
I'm not keen on how it played out. He really wanted out, we let him mess us around, it was a shit show.
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Yeah I completely agree but I blame the club for mishandling it. It obviously impacted my already not so flattering opinion of the guy but I’m not mad about players trying to get the best deal for themselves - and the club was a shit show on and off the field.

The issue with Haas is the fact that he agreed to 2 contracts that he wanted out of mid season. The first being the 500k per year and then again recently with the upgrade. The guy agreed to stay for this duration TWICE and still tries to bail
 
McHunt said:
Payne is president of the Broncos Book Club. You heard it here first:

www.smh.com.au

‘I wish I could start all over again’: The real story of Payne Haas

Greedy? Selfish? Money-hungry? Payne Haas is the game’s most misunderstood player.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
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Nice puff piece by Webby, but really if he's as smart as you say he is and if he's his own man it only makes the past week all the more damning as we were all putting most of the blame on Haas being badly advised.

Webby also tries to suggest that Haas is not interested in the money (offering to pay for his flight) but then why does he ask for a release because the Broncos say they won't consider a pay rise to 1.2 million? So there is quite a bit of cognitive dissonance in Webby's writing here.

Furthermore, it does not work both ways, either he's a smart cooky and he knows exactly what he's doing and therefore deserved to be shunned by the supporter base, or this piece is gilding the lily a tad and he is easily led and was never aware of the consequences of his 'manager' sending that email.

It's one or the other.

I know which I think is more likely.
 
Jedhead said:
Nice puff piece by Webby, but really if he's as smart as you say he is and if he's his own man it only makes the past week all the more damning as we were all putting most of the blame on Haas being badly advised.

Webby also tries to suggest that Haas is not interested in the money (offering to pay for his flight) but then why does he ask for a release because the Broncos say they won't consider a pay rise to 1.2 million? So there is quite a bit of cognitive dissonance in Webby's writing here.

Furthermore, it does not work both ways, either he's a smart cooky and he knows exactly what he's doing and therefore deserved to be shunned by the supporter base, or this piece is gilding the lily a tad and he is easily led and was never aware of the consequences of his 'manager' sending that email.

It's one or the other.

I know which I think is more likely.
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Either way....lie down with dogs, and you'll get fleas.

Payne Haas is a dog

****.
 
theshed said:
Yeah I completely agree but I blame the club for mishandling it. It obviously impacted my already not so flattering opinion of the guy but I’m not mad about players trying to get the best deal for themselves - and the club was a shit show on and off the field.

The issue with Haas is the fact that he agreed to 2 contracts that he wanted out of mid season. The first being the 500k per year and then again recently with the upgrade. The guy agreed to stay for this duration TWICE and still tries to bail
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I think they have to get the best deal they can. Can't really blame the players. I don't like the fake " I love the Broncos and want to stay here forever " nonsense some of them come out with.
 
Haas needs a proper role model. Something akin to proper parenting and discipline growing up.

As long as he is associated with SBW, Mundine and crew, he wont realise the proper perspective of how the world works until hes too old.

Is it up to DD/Ikin/Kevvie? 30% yes to try, but im torn. The club has invested a lot in hi so far and he doesn't appear to be learning how things work.
 
I am over the poor woe is me attitude from Haas.

Him & his family are thugs.

And him saying he wants to make the money for his daughter's future etc. He will want more & more, if he has more children.

Every parent are doing the same thing.
 
007 said:
Haas needs a proper role model. Something akin to proper parenting and discipline growing up.

As long as he is associated with SBW, Mundine and crew, he wont realise the proper perspective of how the world works until hes too old.

Is it up to DD/Ikin/Kevvie? 30% yes to try, but im torn. The club has invested a lot in hi so far and he doesn't appear to be learning how things work.
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The problem is that faking being a religious man for whatever benefit is very important to Payne Haas and those leading him are the best in Australia at faking their religion too. They’re professional victims and if they can get in Payne’s head and give him bullshit reasons for why he’s been punished other than himself, then he will be with them for life.
 
Jedhead said:
Nice puff piece by Webby, but really if he's as smart as you say he is and if he's his own man it only makes the past week all the more damning as we were all putting most of the blame on Haas being badly advised.

Webby also tries to suggest that Haas is not interested in the money (offering to pay for his flight) but then why does he ask for a release because the Broncos say they won't consider a pay rise to 1.2 million? So there is quite a bit of cognitive dissonance in Webby's writing here.

Furthermore, it does not work both ways, either he's a smart cooky and he knows exactly what he's doing and therefore deserved to be shunned by the supporter base, or this piece is gilding the lily a tad and he is easily led and was never aware of the consequences of his 'manager' sending that email.

It's one or the other.

I know which I think is more likely.
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I don't doubt his intelligence, actually. His mother seems pretty smart, tbh, even if she's an angry, abusive person. It's not that he isn't smart, per se, but rather how he chooses to use it and where he gets his "facts" to base his decisions. I think that with better advice and education in business he would actually make more "intelligent" appearing decisions, but he is very young and easily influenced.

I guess it comes down to how his moral compass works. If he thinks, I am in demand, therefore I can ask for more with little consequence (solid contract if they say no, prospective pay increase if they say yes), then why is it dumb to push the issue? If you take a step back and think with less ego, you might start to reflect on your public image, or how people perceive your move.

In the end, I think this is pretty much how businesses operate: how can I make more money, and what position am I in to squeeze more profit? Nestle has a shit reputation, but avoiding their products is hard for the average person, and so they continue to earn even when they're
shown to be raping the planet.
 
007 said:
Haas needs a proper role model. Something akin to proper parenting and discipline growing up.

As long as he is associated with SBW, Mundine and crew, he wont realise the proper perspective of how the world works until hes too old.

Is it up to DD/Ikin/Kevvie? 30% yes to try, but im torn. The club has invested a lot in hi so far and he doesn't appear to be learning how things work.
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Does the world not work well enough for those grubs? They make money, live comfortably and do what they want with little consequence. Their proof is in the pudding. I don't think they care what us plebs think of them. They've got their "mates" around to stroke their egos and wipe their tears with dollar bills.
 
Organix said:
Does the world not work well enough for those grubs? They make money, live comfortably and do what they want with little consequence. Their proof is in the pudding. I don't think they care what us plebs think of them. They've got their "mates" around to stroke their egos and wipe their tears with dollar bills.
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That said....Payne was/is shaken from the Brisbane home crowd's booing.......
 
Mr Fourex said:
That said....Payne was/is shaken from the Brisbane home crowd's booing.......
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Every now and then the real world can bleed into theirs. I would love for Petero or Webke to offer to step in and mentor, but they probably seem like relics. Wrong religion too. Payne is caught at a young maturity level with a lot of money and poor mates. I mean, his mum isn't even going to say "hey, I'm not sure these people are the best for you" because she's sucking at the teat.
 
Organix said:
I don't doubt his intelligence, actually. His mother seems pretty smart, tbh, even if she's an angry, abusive person. It's not that he isn't smart, per se, but rather how he chooses to use it and where he gets his "facts" to base his decisions. I think that with better advice and education in business he would actually make more "intelligent" appearing decisions, but he is very young and easily influenced.

I guess it comes down to how his moral compass works. If he thinks, I am in demand, therefore I can ask for more with little consequence (solid contract if they say no, prospective pay increase if they say yes), then why is it dumb to push the issue? If you take a step back and think with less ego, you might start to reflect on your public image, or how people perceive your move.

In the end, I think this is pretty much how businesses operate: how can I make more money, and what position am I in to squeeze more profit? Nestle has a shit reputation, but avoiding their products is hard for the average person, and so they continue to earn even when they're
shown to be raping the planet.
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Too true about Nestle BTW.
 
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