Peter Wallace!!!

[rnabokov]

Anyone who bags him for tonight just doesn't have a clue. He was under so much pressure when Ivan put Gillett at 5/8th being the only playmaker out there. Did have a major hand in two tries too.

However, yes Beads I will forgive you because you're on the drink!!!

And anyone who cant see how all plays stop when he gets the ball is either stupid, or just plain ignorant. He takes so long to decide what hes going to do with the ball, its laughable. Yes, having gillet there didnt help him, but so many times he got the ball with a few options, and he held the ball for so freaking long, it started to grow moss.

Anyone who makes such a comment, either hasn't seen the game, is stupid, just plain ignorant, or any combination of these...

Mate, you're in the minority if u havent noticed how slow wallace is at making decisions with the ball. Ill leave it at that

It's not that he's slow to make decisions. He gets crappy service from dummy half and then has no viable options to go to. The few times he had them, he actually took them and delivered us tries and restarts. If you watched the game without the goggles, you would probably have seen it...

Agree with you. Given how bloody flat we stand most of the time, Wally has neither time nor space to do much at all.

Apart from which, I reckon he should be 6 while Locky is out. At least he'll know what 2nd receiver is supposed to do and positionally, he'll have a bit more space and time to do something.

 

[Dexter]

If we are standing flat then it is still the halfbacks responsibilty, first receiver will always dictate the depth of his supports.

 

[Donny]

There is always going to be some people who take it upon themselves to blame Wallace for almost every single thing that goes wrong in the game.

For mine the play didnt break down with Wallace at all against the Eels. He gave the ball quickly but it broke down with Gillet and Hoffman. Gillet isnt a 5/8 and he shouldnt of played 5/8. Anyone remember what happened to Lockyer against the Strom last year?? We went into the game with one play maker and we got owned.

Besides Wallace the only other person who did the kicking was McCollough. There was a tone of pressure on Wallace being the only play maker and i thought he preformed as well as he could of.

TBH our whole backline wasnt that crash hot. People getting into each others way. Running the wrong lines or running into each other. Our PET play wasnt anywhere to be seen and we were way to flat in attack.

Man everytime we loss a game it seems as though Wallace gets the blame. If you want to start blaming people lets start with all the fowards who kept letting Mateo offload and run halfway across the field sideways.

 

[Bucking Beads]

There is always going to pe people who think that Wallace has a good game when he really was woeful. I thought he was rubbish infact I know he was rubbish because I watched the game and saw him nuff it up plenty of times.

 

[m1c]

Anyone who bags him for tonight just doesn't have a clue. He was under so much pressure when Ivan put Gillett at 5/8th being the only playmaker out there. Did have a major hand in two tries too.

However, yes Beads I will forgive you because you're on the drink!!!

And anyone who cant see how all plays stop when he gets the ball is either stupid, or just plain ignorant. He takes so long to decide what hes going to do with the ball, its laughable. Yes, having gillet there didnt help him, but so many times he got the ball with a few options, and he held the ball for so freaking long, it started to grow moss.

Anyone who makes such a comment, either hasn't seen the game, is stupid, just plain ignorant, or any combination of these...

Mate, you're in the minority if u havent noticed how slow wallace is at making decisions with the ball. Ill leave it at that

Not sure if I trust your footballing inferences Queenslander after the player you said isn't NRL standard and never will be had a ripper last night and was hailed as the buy of the year by his coach.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Anyone who bags him for tonight just doesn't have a clue. He was under so much pressure when Ivan put Gillett at 5/8th being the only playmaker out there. Did have a major hand in two tries too.

However, yes Beads I will forgive you because you're on the drink!!!

And anyone who cant see how all plays stop when he gets the ball is either stupid, or just plain ignorant. He takes so long to decide what hes going to do with the ball, its laughable. Yes, having gillet there didnt help him, but so many times he got the ball with a few options, and he held the ball for so freaking long, it started to grow moss.

Anyone who makes such a comment, either hasn't seen the game, is stupid, just plain ignorant, or any combination of these...

Mate, you're in the minority if u havent noticed how slow wallace is at making decisions with the ball. Ill leave it at that

Not sure if I trust your footballing inferences Queenslander after the player you said isn't NRL standard and never will be had a ripper last night and was hailed as the buy of the year by his coach.

LOL, ok.. steve michaels is orsm. If you want to ignore everyone who thinks michaels is shit then you might as well just logout of the forum mate. One good game does not make a player, he will back it up with shit next week. And if cartwright says it, it must be right hey! Nevermind all the other great buys, steve michaels had a good game everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Charmamba]

Actually Michaels has gone alright the whole time at the Tits.

Obviously he just didn't feel at home with the Broncos and the change did him well.

 

[Coxy]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl ... 5905596278

Ivan Henjak blames Peter Wallace for the Broncos' attack against Parramatta.

Matt Gillett, who played five-eighth against Parramatta, said he would be happy to revert to the forwards to allow youngster Corey Norman to play five-eighth.

But Henjak said he was happy with Gillett's display.

so if our attack was shit, but the five-eighth was good, it means Henjak thought the halfback was shit icon_thumbs_u

 

[tkday]

Wallace wasn't that bad last game, but I can see he still has problems. You have to take into consideration what is happening. Wallace has let Locky lead the team for a while now, so he's stepped back a bit. He can see where Locky is pushing his plays so he helps direct Lockys attacks (vice-versa). Then you lose one of those key members and the other looks a little lost. Remember when Locky lost Wallace last year? Locky had no-one to help him out. Wallace now has no-one to help him out. There's no gel in the halves. None of them know what any of them are doing. I think Wallace and Locky have a great understanding of each other. Take one out and they don't perform as well. I don't think Wallace can be blamed entirely. I think what he has shown is that he is not a leader and that's what the 5/8 and halfback are. Next year we would be better served to throw him in at hooker and bring Hunt in to replace Wallace and leave Locky where he is. Can Wallace mature and become a leader? I think he could, but not while he is under Locky. Wallace is only fairly young too so he's got a while to get better. Hooker would be a great platform for him to launch from without hurting our chances next year. Hell we'd be a lot better with him there. Hopefully Hunt can step up and do what is needed. Then if anyone of those gets injured the team could shift around better and bring Macca in at hooker. I am no brilliant footy mind/coach so what I am saying is probably complete garbage.

 

[Foordy]

I actually like the idea of moving Wallace to hooker, with Hunt to halfback. I also think it would be invaluable experience for Hunt and his development too.

 

[Coxy]

I actually like the idea of moving Wallace to hooker, with Hunt to halfback. I also think it would be invaluable experience for Hunt and his development too.

Too late at this stage of the season. I wouldn't even move Wallace to 6. Leave him at 7. But put Hunt at 6 who has far more self confidence than Norman, and there's no doubting he has the skills required.

The question mark is whether he can apply it under pressure in first grade. But we won't know until he tries.

But seems that Henjak will go with Gillett at 6 again. Broncos will lose and our finals hopes pretty much dusted. I will lose a bit of the kudos I'd raised for Henjak this year if he makes the same mistake again...or can't see that it's a mistake at all! Fair enough he wouldn't criticise Gillett in public, but to say he was happy with it is something else entirely.

 

[Foordy]

I actually like the idea of moving Wallace to hooker, with Hunt to halfback. I also think it would be invaluable experience for Hunt and his development too.

Too late at this stage of the season. I wouldn't even move Wallace to 6. Leave him at 7. But put Hunt at 6 who has far more self confidence than Norman, and there's no doubting he has the skills required.

The question mark is whether he can apply it under pressure in first grade. But we won't know until he tries.

But seems that Henjak will go with Gillett at 6 again. Broncos will lose and our finals hopes pretty much dusted. I will lose a bit of the kudos I'd raised for Henjak this year if he makes the same mistake again...or can't see that it's a mistake at all! Fair enough he wouldn't criticise Gillett in public, but to say he was happy with it is something else entirely.

i was thinking it should be something to look at in the off season.

 

[Coxy]

Potentially. Though I don't think Wallace's tackling technique would be suited to hooker. He's more a go low and wrap up the legs style defender. If he's defending in the middle as a hooker that'd allow too many offloads.

 

[Anonymous person]

look, wallace was bad.

theres no other way to put it. week after week, poor attacking display after poor attacking display, getting tackled with the ball time after time after time, putting up rubbish rushed kick after rushed kick after rushed kick, Wallace just isnt getting better but some people on here just keep defending him. its gotten beyond ridiculous.

Wallace takes FAR too long to decide what hes going to do when he gets the ball. anyone denying this must not be actually watching the games. sure our dummy half service has been near deplorable....but wallace is still getting the ball a good 3-4 seconds MINIMUM before the defence even gets near him on 5th tackle, and time after time he just gets tackled or has to basically just throw the ball on his foot when hes about to get smashed. during the set it just usually ends in him stepping back the other way, running a few metres, stepping and going back the other way, and either just chucking the ball to the next closest player or just getting tackled. its like watching a circus out there.

my father is one of the staunch 'you never say a bad word about the team you support' fans, and whenever i bag wallace about being too slow in making decisions etc to him when we're watching games, he always gives me the 'hes a great player' line. as we were leaving the stadium on friday night, he said to me 'I see what you mean about Wallace taking too long now'. that said enough to me as to how well Wallace is playing.

id say probably 5-6 times out of 10 when wallace gets the ball, the play just dies. sure we might get a few passes away, but the play is essentially dead as the structure is gone and its just every man for himself. he takes forever to make a decision, then often makes the wrong decision. his kicking game, especially to Folau, is also pretty dreadful. these little cross field kicks to 20m in from the sideline with no hangtime are just useles........yet he does them time after time after time.

its time to start looking to the future. Wallace is NOT our long-term halfback. if he is the one in charge of leading our team when Lockyer retires, we're in for a world of hurt.

 

[Coxy]

LOLZ, 3-4 seconds before the defence gets to him...hardly. But yes, he does have enough time to put in a decent kick most of the time, and most of the time he does.

His rushed kicks are horrid.

His rushed passes are horrid.
His rushed "Oh shit, I'm under pressure, I'll step and run" plays are horrid (he often loses the ball).

Dexter said it earlier. Wallace needs to get deeper. He can't think and play as quick as Locky, so he can't be as flat as Locky. Get deeper. Give yourself more time. He's simply not sharp enough to play at the line consistently...he needs to play before the line.

 

[tkday]

Hahaha, your dad agrees with you and thinks Wallace plays bad. Frig me, we should just retire Wallace now if your dad thinks he's no good. Quick get on the line with the Broncos! AP's dad doesn't like Wallace anymore. Seriously though, I'm done defending him because I was wrong. He can't lead the team, he's a great player, just not a leader. Our game definitely suffers without him on the field though, so he's essential to us, just not without Locky.

 

[Coxy]

Hahaha, your dad agrees with you and thinks Wallace plays bad. Frig me, we should just retire Wallace now if your dad thinks he's no good. Quick get on the line with the Broncos! AP's dad doesn't like Wallace anymore. Seriously though, I'm done defending him because I was wrong. He can't lead the team, he's a great player, just not a leader. Our game definitely suffers without him on the field though, so he's essential to us, just not without Locky.

I think his point was his dad was steadfastly against bagging any Bronco player, ever, and had constantly defended Wallace...but now even he could see the frailties.

Heck, there's a lot of people who at the start of this thread were vehemently defensive of Wallace who are now conceding the things said are true (though perhaps more nicely).

Wallace's form in 2010 has not been good enough. There's nobody who can deny that. He has, what, 2 seasons left on his contract in which to show he can lift to the performance the Broncos need from him as the "heir apparent" to Locky leading this backline. If not...don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

 

[Anonymous person]

wow, tkday missing the point YET AGAIN, who wouldve guessed that would happen? [icon_lol1.