Peter Wallace!!!

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ningnangnong said:
jarro65 said:
I'm really looking forward to Wallace having a blinder of a finals series this year and shutting some of you people the hell up !!!!!!!!!

Fairfarkingdinkum :roll: [icon_thumbs_do

He could well have a fantastic finals series.

That's not the point though, the point is that he is terribly inconsistent.

He has the ability, but he hasn't been displaying it consistently enough.

And what we need right now is consistency from our senior playmakers. Locky's been giving it. Wallace needs to step up.

We're 9th. We can't afford to drop games right now because our halfback just needs to get some form back!
 
tkday said:
Lets hope not, because we're stuck with him for a while longer yet. Don't get me wrong, I understand everyone's concerns, but him playing ordinary will not lose us the game, let's just hope he doesn't get any worse.


Second time you have made that point tkday, fair point too, but the thing you are missing is he had the chance to WIN the game and couldn't convert.
A good half will win you games if his team provides the opportunity.

Wallace has similar problems to a lot of halves in the game atm, he doesn't have a running game to threaten the line which makes his other options more easily defended.
I think this is a product of the trend in the game to play a little too much structure and coaches pick halfbacks who can carry out a plan.
Its not very often a half with great footwork and genuine speed off the mark comes along, have a look at Ben Barba, he needs to improve in a few areas but he looks like a superstar because of his speed.
 
Dexter said:
tkday said:
Lets hope not, because we're stuck with him for a while longer yet. Don't get me wrong, I understand everyone's concerns, but him playing ordinary will not lose us the game, let's just hope he doesn't get any worse.


Second time you have made that point tkday, fair point too, but the thing you are missing is he had the chance to WIN the game and couldn't convert.
A good half will win you games if his team provides the opportunity.

Wallace has similar problems to a lot of halves in the game atm, he doesn't have a running game to threaten the line which makes his other options more easily defended.
I think this is a product of the trend in the game to play a little too much structure and coaches pick halfbacks who can carry out a plan.
Its not very often a half with great footwork and genuine speed off the mark comes along, have a look at Ben Barba, he needs to improve in a few areas but he looks like a superstar because of his speed.

Thank you, Dexter. That is my biggest criticism of Wallace this year. He's not converting possession and field position into points often enough. And that's what you want from your halfback.

It seems we're falling back into that bad old habit of "give it to Locky and hope"...and when Locky's not there, or not firing, we're screwed.

And I actually think Corey Norman has shown good speed off the mark. He just hasn't got the experience to pick when to run and when to pass - he definitely got tackled far too much against the Tigers.
 
Here's a crazy idea then for all you Wallace haters ....

.. what if we put Wallace to hooker and hunt to half ? See how they go for at least one half of footy. If Hunt gets found wanting/gets overawed by it all, just swap them back.

Macca can still play his interchange role for the time being.

FWIW i think Wallace would do well at hooker. He's a god defender, he'd be able to provide good quick service from dummyhalf, and he'd be able to kick well from there as well.

Just a thought i've been having for a little while
 
Wouldn't hurt to try it jarro.

But calling us "Wallace haters" is a bit like calling people who aren't sold on global warming "deniers". Bit unfair.

I don't "hate" Wallace. I'm just very disappointed with his form at the moment, and his inconsistency over his time at the Broncos. I'd love nothing more than for him to be able to maintain the kind of form we saw from him during the back end of last season, where he had the balance between his running game, passing game, kicking game and defence absolutely right.
 
Agree on Norman Coxy, he will be good IMO.
 
Coxy said:
Wouldn't hurt to try it jarro.

But calling us "Wallace haters" is a bit like calling people who aren't sold on global warming "deniers". Bit unfair.

I don't "hate" Wallace. I'm just very disappointed with his form at the moment, and his inconsistency over his time at the Broncos. I'd love nothing more than for him to be able to maintain the kind of form we saw from him during the back end of last season, where he had the balance between his running game, passing game, kicking game and defence absolutely right.

Ok ok, i suppose calling you guys 'Wallace haters' was a bit much ... i apologise [eusa_doh

I just think he deserves a little more cred than he's being given ATM.

He's certainly not going out there trying to play badly, he's actually putting in as much ... if not more, than any other player ATM.
 
I don't doubt he's trying. But I tend to dislike the notion that just because a player is trying they should be immune from being dropped.

It's first grade. You can't win first grade games with players that are trying and failing.

No, I'm not saying drop Wallace immediately necessarily, but he has to find some form soon or the season is in jeopardy.
 
I don't think we have a better option than Wallace, even in his current form. I don't like Norman, Hunt or Macca personally. Sure they have potential, but I think they've shown that they are not up to scratch yet.
 
tkday said:
I don't think we have a better option than Wallace, even in his current form. I don't like Norman, Hunt or Macca personally. Sure they have potential, but I think they've shown that they are not up to scratch yet.

Again, I don't disagree that Wallace is our best halfback option right now. But he's not showing it. If he doesn't turn his form around then maybe we have to punt on Hunt or Norman for a few weeks while Wallace gets his confidence back in Q Cup?

Remember, Broncos are coming 9th...can't afford to lose games we should win right now.
 
It's a catch 22 isn't it? Remove our best halback so he can get back to form and put in guys who aren't as talented or leave him in and watch him fumble his way through. I don't like either option to be honest. Maybe keeping him in the team, but maybe doing some extra work with him through the week could be the answer?
 
tkday said:
It's a catch 22 isn't it? Remove our best halback so he can get back to form and put in guys who aren't as talented or leave him in and watch him fumble his way through. I don't like either option to be honest. Maybe keeping him in the team, but maybe doing some extra work with him through the week could be the answer?

I liken it to another ranga who struggled week after week last week before Henjak finally lost patience with him...

I'm not suggesting Wallace is in the same rut as Michaels was, but you have to wonder when you start looking at Plan b.

I quite like Jarro's suggestion, especially while we have Hunt, McCullough, Wallace and Lockyer all in the 17. If things ain't working on the field, why not give Wallace a rest for 20 minutes, put Hunt in the 7 with Lockyer, and McCullough at 9...or even McCullough his usual rest, Hunt at 7 and Wallace at 9...
 
The last thing we need to be doing is changing 7s mid match. Would be one of the worst things we could do IMO. If hooked his confidence would be shot upon any return to the field. Not to mention the cohesion we'd lose.

Even if his general play is a bit on the nose atm, IMO his kicking game is leagues ahead of Norman, Hunt and Maccas. He is worth persisting with just for that to take the pressure off Locky.
 
It's just an emotional overreaction to a cunnova loss, when Wallace finds his best form again (oh and when the team gets its regular starters back) the bandwagoners/scapegoats will back off again.
 
We rely on Wallace just as much as we rely on Lockyer IMO. If Wallace doesn't show up we rarely get the points.
 
gUt said:
It's just an emotional overreaction to a cunnova loss, when Wallace finds his best form again (oh and when the team gets its regular starters back) the bandwagoners/scapegoats will back off again.

It's not an 'emotional overreaction'. :roll:

I know I've been concerned about Wallace's performance for a while now.
 
ningnangnong said:
gUt said:
It's just an emotional overreaction to a cunnova loss, when Wallace finds his best form again (oh and when the team gets its regular starters back) the bandwagoners/scapegoats will back off again.

It's not an 'emotional overreaction'. :roll:

I know I've been concerned about Wallace's performance for a while now.

Don't bother arguing ning. It's just our "time of the month".
 
gUt said:
It's just an emotional overreaction to a cunnova loss, when Wallace finds his best form again (oh and when the team gets its regular starters back) the bandwagoners/scapegoats will back off again.


Well yeah if Wallace does find form again would be kinda silly to bag him. Right now however he isn't in form and hasn't been for most of this season.
 
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