I am 100% sure they will say Walsh was a grade one from the Grand Final on Coates and was fined $3000 and then draw comparisons.
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I am 100% sure they will say Walsh was a grade one from the Grand Final on Coates and was fined $3000 and then draw comparisons.
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He was on his toes and lost control tumbling to the ground after the contact... PVL must have given them a heads up that it'll get through because Ch 9 and Fox have demanded he play Rd 1
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The other aspect at risk if Cleary gets the downgrade is precedent.
I'm not sure if the rules have changed, but teams can't point at non charged or early pleas as evidence for downgrades... however if someone goes to the judiciary and is found successful then that can be pointed at as evidence for grading.
If Cleary gets a downgrade then every forceful shoulder to the face can use it as evidence of a similar Grade 1 offence.
They'd basically be ****ing up the entire judiciary and charging process just so Cleary can play Rd 1, because that's the only reason to let him win.
I'm not sure if the rules have changed, but teams can't point at non charged or early pleas as evidence for downgrades... however if someone goes to the judiciary and is found successful then that can be pointed at as evidence for grading.
If Cleary gets a downgrade then every forceful shoulder to the face can use it as evidence of a similar Grade 1 offence.
They'd basically be ****ing up the entire judiciary and charging process just so Cleary can play Rd 1, because that's the only reason to let him win.
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Oh don't worry about precedent, that is not part of the NRL's MO.
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Did he take it to the judiciary or just accept the early plea?
The previous rules were that you can only use ones that have gone to the judiciary as evidence for similar offences... otherwise you could find ones that didn't even cop a charge and point to them
Unless they have decided to change the rules... again
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Also are you referring to this one where Coates is literally on his knee when he got hit?
Yeah you're right they're exactly the same
I thought if it was in the last 12 months you could use it.
Also are you referring to this one where Coates is literally on his knee when he got hit?
Yeah you're right they're exactly the same
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Bet it comes up; it was also Walsh's third offence and still only grade one and a fine.
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That's the judiciary system the NRL put in place for morons like JWH and NAS... you can get infinite grade 1 careless tackles and never serve a week on the sidelines.
What does that have to do with anything?
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This is actually a better comparison tackle for the Cleary shot... Loiero on his toes (although less than Cleary), Piakura "dipping" as he braces... shoulder smokes him straight in the face.
Somehow Loiero only got a Grade 2 and 2 weeks for a tackle that probably should've been 4-6 weeks
Somehow Loiero only got a Grade 2 and 2 weeks for a tackle that probably should've been 4-6 weeks
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If he gets off for that, we should challenge every shoulder collision to the head for the rest of the season.
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He literally launches into the hit and his feet leave the ground. It's a Reckless hit.
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NRL: Clear shoulder to shoulder contact. Everything before and after shot / vision matters not.
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