POST GAME Round 12 - Broncos vs Sharks

[MrTickyM]

Sure, how much do you need? I'll leave a hundred in an envelope and here's the address where you can pick it up. 14 Far Queue Street, Lower Knobgobbler Estate, Pricksville Victoria.

I looked it up, this address doesn’t exist! Apologies for last night, too many beers and was acting like a dick.

 

[winslow_wong]

Darius Boyd last night.

Where has that Boyd been?

Retired in the centres. Maybe the recall into fullback gave him a jolt at life again.

 

[broncos4life]

Haas - 18 runs, 217 metres, 43 tackles.
TPJ - 20 runs, 185 metres, 5 offloads, 21 tackles.
Carrigan - 23 runs, 210 metres, 50 tackles.

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Flegler - 7 runs, 81 metres, 29 tackles.
Ofahanegaue - 10 runs, 76 metres, 32 tackles.

I wonder who the weak links are in the forward pack...

Fifita.

 

[Wolfie]

He’s been fucking brilliant this year too, if we didn’t sign so many average contracts he would have easily been afforded.

Lots of rumours around guys not liking him in our playing group but now I’m 100% convinced that most of the playing group are soft as **** and that’s why they don’t like him....seems like they’re the ones with potential character floors.

I'd heard those rumours, and i cant speak for everyone, but the blokes i know had no issues with him at all.

 

[pagey]

Our back row depth is fuuuuuucked.

We literally came into the season with 1 legitimate 80 minute back rower who received the biggest contract in NRL history and will leave the club next year.

The plan was TPJ /Glenn+ Fifita in the second row... that's it. A guy we were looking to offload (but then made captain), another guy who can't defend at second row and a guy whose contract we let drag all the way down to nothing and then tried to re-sign for 30% less than what everyone else was offering.

They should've spent the off season transitioning Oates into a back rower... he's basically got a spot sorted next year... and Piakura now becomes a must signing with the hope that he kills it in ISC and can take over Glenn's spot maybe mid next year.

That or we need to convert Bullemor into a second rower.

Cannot believe how short we are in the back row

Rikki is a backrower and palasia too I think.

 

[Galah]

I'd heard those rumours, and i cant speak for everyone, but the blokes i know had no issues with him at all.

He’s the hardnut we’ve needed the last couple of years. I’m man enough to admit I was wrong about wanting him gone.

 

[Jedhead]

I tend to agree it's the classic case of a team forgetting how to win. Some of the tries the Broncos gave up tonight were so symptomatic of a team that was struggling that even when they were winning as a fan I just felt so frustrated.

Take the Mulitalo try for instance. Brisbane on the front foot, Staggs takes on Talakai and thinks he has him beat before Siosifa gets him with a good tackle. Instead of just swallowing his pride, Staggs throws a loose intercept that happens to sit just right for Mulitalo and he runs all the way. Then to really rub it in, Flegler actually grabs a hold of him, but the jersey rips and Mulitalo escapes against the run of play.

Then right before half-time, Brisbane score a nice try to give themselves all the momentum heading into the break. All they have to do is play the set out and Kennedy turns the ball over meekly. The defence is at sixes and sevens and the Sharks score a fairly commanding try just before half-time that gives them all the momentum heading into the break.

Then with 10 to go, Dearden comes up with the right play to earn the six again and play the game deep down their end. Naturally Cronulla were always going to go for the short kick-off, so players had to be ready. All Ofahengaue had to do was jump and take it, something he would have been trained to do at an earlier age but he offloads the problem to a 19 year old. Dearden still should have taken it, but he just let the situation get to him. I need to see a response from him because you can't have a half who completely falls apart in these moments.

Brisbane had the better of Cronulla in most of the key stats tonight. I've seen all sorts of hidings this year, this was the first time I saw them as the better team lose the game. It's just so frustrating from their perspective and I can't see anything in the way of solutions.

I agree wholeheartedly with your observations Pete. We also need to remember it's only Stagg's 2nd season so he's still learning. You have to ask yourself though, shouldn't those dumb low percentage plays have been coached out of him by now?

I know it was Joffa's responsibility to catch that drop out after Deardon's lovely little grubber, but again shouldn't coaching dictate that we have our aerial specialist Coates there ready for the inevitable of a short kick-off. Nevertheless, Joffa should have still caught that by using his height and obvious build to his advantage. I'm not saying Tommy is a cat, I think he's a raw tough little bastard, but he's only played a handful of first grade games and having Wade Graham steaming full force at you would (I imagine) rattle the shit out of most rookie half backs. I'm sure he'll grow from that experience. I recall Locky's howler at fullback as a rookie so it happens to the best too.

Also, the two very poor attempts of our own short kick offs from re-starts from Milf would suggest their fukc around at the captain's run could have been much better spent. Milf's goallne dropouts were also so lacking in intention that his 'efforts' were dispensed with the very next drop out. We need someone who can drill these guys so that consistency becomes second nature. Our transitions from attack to defence are so slow, our wingers coming off their wing in defence. It happens every week so you'd think any astute coach would make those obvious weak points a priority.

Isaac Luke's first couple of games looked full of promise to me. Fast forward a few weeks and he has regressed so much and seems to have lost any enthusiasm he had when he first came here. Our bench rotation struck me as someone playing lucky dip with the numbers, there was absolutely no rhyme or reason that I could see. Again, this has to come down to the coaching staff.

Siebold's refusal (or inability) to read the flow of a game and let that dictate how he must improvise his bench rotation to take full advantage of the unfolding situation suggests to me a lack of coaching maturity that is bordering on blind arrogance.

What might seem as the team improving one week then regressing the next is merely the waves coming in and out as our own King Canute tries to turn back the tide.

 

[Dazza 92]

iasked for a improvement over the Storm game...we were more competitive but cant dfend against anyone..

we wont win again this season with such defence

 

[Fernando]

Much, much better. But you can't win if you keep conceding ~30 points a game.

Other than a few errors Dearden looks impressive. Herbie and Coates looked the most comfortable they have in 1st grade. There is strike power between them and Staggs but we've gotta learn to defend.

 

[Huge]

I looked it up, this address doesn’t exist! Apologies for last night, too many beers and was acting like a dick.

Huge respect. Moving right along. And I am a superior prick at times.

 

[Dazza 92]

Huge respect. Moving right along. And I am a superior prick at times.

see...i knew it was a joke all along...

Victorias in lockdown....you aint getting in there to collect anyway..!!!!

 

[mrslong]

Now I’ve had time to calm down.
While seibold’s sure bench rotation surely contributed to the loss, that diabolical bomb from Milford after the sharks scored while we were up by 2 sealed our fate.
Kodi in the previous game had the presence of mine to kick for touch, braith dumbass Anasta called for the kick to touch and what does million dollars man do. A bomb to the winger on the 15m line.

Garn git, get outta my sight.

 

[john1420]

Because you pick the best 17 regardless instead of going the childish approach by not playing someone just because they signed with another team.

It's childish not to play him just because he signed somewhere else and we crack the sads.

But to not play him because you are trying to plan for next season given this one is done, is called vision.

It all depends on the 'why' :)

 

[Super Freak]

It's childish not to play him just because he signed somewhere else and we crack the sads.

But to not play him because you are trying to plan for next season given this one is done, is called vision.

It all depends on the 'why' :)

It's a bullshit excuse to drop someone that's signed with another club.

Broncos are 3 wins out of the 8. And even if the chances of them making it are very very very slim, you don't stop trying. So you pick the best 17 and that includes Fifita. Even if there was no chance of making the finals, the objective then is to finish as high as possible, avoid the spoon. Again, you pick the best 17.

Not only that, but that's a pretty good way of pissing off players. Players we need to keep.

 

[broncsgoat]

Fifita dogged the boys. If seibold had any sense about him he’d dog him back

 

[Foordy]

Positives from last night

Boyd turning the clock back 2 years. his best game in 2 years
Milford's best game in a long time
Herbie's best game ever
Coates is going to be a superstar
STAGGS is brilliant
Haas was his usual beast self
Carrigan continuing his workhorse ways

there is plenty to take away from last night

Negatives from last night

defence - still brittle (with the exception of when we defended 4 straight sets on our line in the second half. 2 weeks ago we would have conceded 4 tries during that period

not defending errors as well as we should.

forgotton how to win. been mentioned plenty both on here and by the commentators. but it's true.

still plenty we need to work on

 

[WASSHHH]

Positives from last night

Boyd turning the clock back 2 years. his best game in 2 years
Milford's best game in a long time
Herbie's best game ever
Coates is going to be a superstar
STAGGS is brilliant
Haas was his usual beast self
Carrigan continuing his workhorse ways

there is plenty to take away from last night

Negatives from last night

defence - still brittle (with the exception of when we defended 4 straight sets on our line in the second half. 2 weeks ago we would have conceded 4 tries during that period

not defending errors as well as we should.

forgotton how to win. been mentioned plenty both on here and by the commentators. but it's true.

still plenty we need to work on

Can agree on most, but Milford, seriously?

Still hasn’t learnt to close out a game. Mid field bomb and a grubber for a 7 tackle set when kicking to the corners was all that was needed.

Sure, he had one vintage run, but when it really mattered, he went to shit right on cue.

He simply cannot handle the pressure, which is why the current iteration either fades out of the game completely or ***** it up.

 

[NSW stables]

While it was an improvement, we should not forget this was against an almost reserve grade cronulla, with even less nrl experience than us.

We also let them post 36 points against us. 36 points! The fact that we are seeing that game as an improvement is a terrible indication as to where this board, recruitment/retention team and coaching staff has taken this once great club.