PRE-GAME Round 2 - Broncos vs Cowboys

[broncsgoat]

Who is your coach of choice then?

That was a joke. Obviously the best option for coach is Wayne.

 

[1910]

Dearden didn't play any grade on the weekend but did turn 18.
O'Sullivan didn't play ISC- is this week.
Paix tried hard and didn't miss a tackle, was impressed with his effort to keep putting his body in the way of McDonald. Did a lot of little things right like kick chase and get in there for a run. New team so understandable.
Boyd- got steamrolled by the CQ and missed five tackles.

 

[Morkel]

Disagree. How can the forwards lay a platform with the terrible and readable ball they are getting. Melbourne were so in the forwards faves and never in fear of a half darting or being creative with the ball. Coupled with the terrible last play kicking options the forwards had to work overtime in defence with the storm starting with easy meteres after most kicks.

This McCullough bullshit has to stop. The difference was in the ruck. Melbourne were slowing us down by twisting and manipulating our players, so by the time the PTB occurs, they're already off their line and in our faces. It's not because McCullough is slow, it's because he doesn't have the same time Smith has. When we were going well last night, we were putting their runners on their backs and similarly starving them of fast PTB's. Smith's time was reduced, we were able to get up fast, hence why were able to contain their momentum and keep them out for a good 40 - 50 minutes.

 

[mitch222]

This McCullough bullshit has to stop. The difference was in the ruck. Melbourne were slowing us down by twisting and manipulating our players, so by the time the PTB occurs, they're already off their line and in our faces. It's not because McCullough is slow, it's because he doesn't have the same time Smith has. When we were going well last night, we were putting their runners on their backs and similarly starving them of fast PTB's. Smith's time was reduced, we were able to get up fast, hence why were able to contain their momentum and keep them out for a good 40 - 50 minutes.

No no no no no
McCullough must be the punching bag for everyone to hide the fact that our forwards got outmuscled last night
Him and Kodi were the reasons we lost. Kodi couldn’t kick but not because he was under immense pressure all night whereas Melbourne had blockers protecting their kickers all night like we should have had

 

[Battler]

TPJ looked underdone, but if he was good enough to play 50 odd mins he’s good enough to start. My back row for this game would be: 11. Gillett, 12. Fifita (who cares if he had a bad game in D against the tits, Su’a and Glenn (who was invisible) just had bad ones against the storm in actual nrl), 13. tpj/ Carrigan (if tpj can’t play for whatever reason or Lodge is suspended and they want tpj in the middle rotation off the bench).

 

[Kelleher]

This McCullough bullshit has to stop. The difference was in the ruck. Melbourne were slowing us down by twisting and manipulating our players, so by the time the PTB occurs, they're already off their line and in our faces. It's not because McCullough is slow, it's because he doesn't have the same time Smith has. When we were going well last night, we were putting their runners on their backs and similarly starving them of fast PTB's. Smith's time was reduced, we were able to get up fast, hence why were able to contain their momentum and keep them out for a good 40 - 50 minutes.

We should have fought harder to get up faster. Melbourne did twist us all night. They are the masters of it and we didnt call them out on it.

 

[Kelleher]

TPJ looked underdone, but if he was good enough to play 50 odd mins he’s good enough to start. My back row for this game would be: 11. Gillett, 12. Fifita (who cares if he had a bad game in D against the tits, Su’a and Glenn (who was invisible) just had bad ones against the storm in actual nrl), 13. tpj/ Carrigan (if tpj can’t play for whatever reason or Lodge is suspended and they want tpj in the middle rotation off the bench).

Fifita also got bamboozled in defence for that last try. Or was it laziness, although he was virtually fresh, so should not have been that. This is why he is still learning and probably coming off bench. Su'a impressed me in defence and i think he wouldn't be a bad 13 until TPJ starts. I dont think we will see many unforced changes for next week though. After watching the game again today, it really wasnt as bad as some are saying.

 

[Morkel]

Fifita also got bamboozled in defence for that last try. Or was it laziness, although he was virtually fresh, so should not have been that. This is why he is still learning and probably coming off bench. Su'a impressed me in defence and i think he wouldn't be a bad 13 until TPJ starts. I dont think we will see many unforced changes for next week though. After watching the game again today, it really wasnt as bad as some are saying.

I was actually looking at that really closely. At first I too thought it was Fifita's fault for being sucked in by Munster and leaving his inside free. However on the replays you could see that Munster was Fifita's player - if he didn't get to him then there would have been an overlap on the outside which they would have been able to exploit.

 

[Morkel]

If Roberts and Lodge are out, I'd go with:

1. Isaako
2. Oates
3. Staggs
4. Bird
5. Boyd
6. Milford
7. KNik
8. TPJ
9. Macca
10. Joffa
11. Glenn
12. Gillett
13. Carrigan

14. Turpin
15. Flegler
16. Mago
17. Fifita

I know it won't happen.

I'm thinking there will be 4 forwards on the bench, especially with Lodge being out.

I think same starting side, but bench will be:

14 Fifita
15 Flegler
16 Carrigan
17 Fensom

 

[Viti]

I was actually looking at that really closely. At first I too thought it was Fifita's fault for being sucked in by Munster and leaving his inside free. However on the replays you could see that Munster was Fifita's player - if he didn't get to him then there would have been an overlap on the outside which they would have been able to exploit.

If I’m remembering correctly the last try was completely on Joffa and Boyd, we were caught out in the ruck and Joffa needed to play passively at first marker rather than biting in on Smith. Joffa making that lazy play left gave Bromwich an open path to the try line with Boyd’s pea hearted effort.

 

[mitch222]

Lodge looking at 2 weeks on the sidelines with a grade 2 charge. We should really challenge for a downgrade as he wont miss any more games with an unsuccessful challenge.

 

[Super Freak]

Lodge looking at 2 weeks on the sidelines with a grade 2 charge. We should really challenge for a downgrade as he wont miss any more games with an unsuccessful challenge.

And they should challenge it.

First contact was upper thigh/hips while making an attempt to wrap the arms around. That's fair game.

 

[McHunt]

We have no structure in attack. We literally look clueless close to the line. Last night, the fuckwads were kicking early. And shit kicks at that. If that's Seibold's plan, he can **** off back to Harvard. Maybe open a fish and chip shop there.

I can see this season is going to be just like the last while we have Macca gumming up the works. Getting rid of him, or at least away from the football, will be the key. Poor bugger, he has a massive heart, but coupled with a tiny football brain. If Seibold can't see what everyone else sees, he's not a coach's sphincter. It won't be a pleasant job dropping him, but that's why he's on those big bikkies.

Maybe he could hide Boyd on the wing. He's clearly no good at fullback anymore, and Isaako has been found wanting in defence out there. I suspect Milford might be better at fullback than five-eighth, but I can't see that happening. Boyd needs to work on his fish and chip game because that's what's in his future. He'd look fantastic in a hairnet.

The current halves will need to be broken up: one of either Niko or Milford needs to move and make way for one of the youngsters who know how to kick tactically, and can communicate with the rest of the team so they might even chase the ball occasionally. From what I've seen of the youngsters, they're all better at that than Milford and Niko.

Finally, Roberts, cut off that bogan rat tail. It's not 1983.

 

[Kyall]

We have no structure in attack. We literally look clueless close to the line. Last night, the fuckwads were kicking early. And shit kicks at that. If that's Seibold's plan, he can **** off back to Harvard. Maybe open a fish and chip shop there.

I can see this season is going to be just like the last while we have Macca gumming up the works. Getting rid of him, or at least away from the football, will be the key. Poor bugger, he has a massive heart, but coupled with a tiny football brain. If Seibold can't see what everyone else sees, he's not a coach's sphincter. It won't be a pleasant job dropping him, but that's why he's on those big bikkies.

Maybe he could hide Boyd on the wing. He's clearly no good at fullback anymore, and Isaako has been found wanting in defence out there. I suspect Milford might be better at fullback than five-eighth, but I can't see that happening. Boyd needs to work on his fish and chip game because that's what's in his future. He'd look fantastic in a hairnet.

The current halves will need to be broken up: one of either Niko or Milford needs to move and make way for one of the youngsters who know how to kick tactically, and can communicate with the rest of the team so they might even chase the ball occasionally. From what I've seen of the youngsters, they're all better at that than Milford and Niko.

Finally, Roberts, cut off that bogan rat tail. It's not 1983.

No structure are you kidding we were moving the ball like champions and as soon as we got into Melbournes 20 we scored.

 

[McHunt]

This McCullough bullshit has to stop. The difference was in the ruck. Melbourne were slowing us down by twisting and manipulating our players, so by the time the PTB occurs, they're already off their line and in our faces. It's not because McCullough is slow, it's because he doesn't have the same time Smith has. When we were going well last night, we were putting their runners on their backs and similarly starving them of fast PTB's. Smith's time was reduced, we were able to get up fast, hence why were able to contain their momentum and keep them out for a good 40 - 50 minutes.

Are you for real? We've been watching Macca's mediocre play for years. This isn't a one game phenomenon. He is the front-line ball handler. He touches the ball more than any other player. And he offers nothing in attack. He can't even pass the ball without it rotating end over end.

Hookers are wily fuckers who are always up to something. Great hookers win games. Macca is never up to anything. He's the worst hooker in the comp, and has been for years.

 

[McHunt]

No structure are you kidding we were moving the ball like champions and as soon as we got into Melbournes 20 we scored.

There were a couple of moments in the second half when I'd agree with you but overall, no.

I'd also like to remind everyone it's not Week One where you get a free pass to be a bit shit. It's NRL season. Every game counts.

 

[Kelleher]

I was actually looking at that really closely. At first I too thought it was Fifita's fault for being sucked in by Munster and leaving his inside free. However on the replays you could see that Munster was Fifita's player - if he didn't get to him then there would have been an overlap on the outside which they would have been able to exploit.

IMO his position must take the ball carrier and be quick enough to hold the inside also. He has to make a decision yes, sometimes it can be the wrong one, but it looked like he got confused and therefore the gap got even bigger.

 

[Morkel]

We have no structure in attack. We literally look clueless close to the line. Last night, the fuckwads were kicking early. And shit kicks at that. If that's Seibold's plan, he can **** off back to Harvard. Maybe open a fish and chip shop there.

I can see this season is going to be just like the last while we have Macca gumming up the works. Getting rid of him, or at least away from the football, will be the key. Poor bugger, he has a massive heart, but coupled with a tiny football brain. If Seibold can't see what everyone else sees, he's not a coach's sphincter. It won't be a pleasant job dropping him, but that's why he's on those big bikkies.

Maybe he could hide Boyd on the wing. He's clearly no good at fullback anymore, and Isaako has been found wanting in defence out there. I suspect Milford might be better at fullback than five-eighth, but I can't see that happening. Boyd needs to work on his fish and chip game because that's what's in his future. He'd look fantastic in a hairnet.

The current halves will need to be broken up: one of either Niko or Milford needs to move and make way for one of the youngsters who know how to kick tactically, and can communicate with the rest of the team so they might even chase the ball occasionally. From what I've seen of the youngsters, they're all better at that than Milford and Niko.

Finally, Roberts, cut off that bogan rat tail. It's not 1983.

The bolded and enlarged. Until very late in the game we had had literally 4 play-the-balls in the opposition 20, and scored off during that set. I just can't take you seriously because of comments like this where it is clear that no matter what happens in the game, you will "see" whatever you want.