POST GAME Round 23 - Broncos vs Sharks

I've been telling everyone who will listen for the past 12 months that the sharks are shit. They were the worst premiers for a long long time. **** it felt good spraying Gal and fatfita
 
Nice to win with good for and against. Some smart play targeting their weak spots like Maloneys hand and fragile egos. Good signs with some desperate defence when game already won.

Wayne should be on top of it not letting them get carried away. Thrashed a crap team last week and Sharks were always soft premiers without the extra two players on the field making sure they get their fairytale premiership.

Keep it going but still need a lot of improvement. Hunt needs to be told to relax and not overplay his hand, let KNik and Milf run the team. Focus on the basics and take pressure off him. Boyd is nowhere near his best and frankly Milford's attempted one on one try stopper despite failing was better than anything can recall Boyd doing in last line of defence this year. Glenn was sloppy in his defensive positioning at times. Not sure he is a starter. Could use Blair in second row and stat Offa when he gets back or Ese. Liked Thaiday at hooker but needs to be there most of time not on and off. Fitness work next few weeks is a must and get him off for a breather. Boyd can cover a little but KNik needs to be left to be halfback. Loved the in out from Moga but Capewell made him look better than he is. Moga must use Oates. Oates had a shocker but given he probably hasn't done much with illness and is still probably on oral antibiotics for any residual infection need to give him time he'll come good. Besides no better options with both reserve wingers stinking it up badly. Can we just put Gillos runs on a loop and sit him in front of the Tele all week as his only training exercise, add a few offloads from him and he can have the keys to the city.

Shame to lose arrow sick of this poaching crap especially if give Blair compassionate out. Bad man management unless Bennets got something bigger cooking. At this rate we should just buy GC as a feeder team. As our seconds would probably go higher on the ladder.
 
Taylor1921 said:
Fifita seriously needs to wake up to himself, I'm sick and tired of him choking players, and the fucking flopping is disgusting. The NRL need to stamp it out. No wants to see that shit. I hope he isn't playing in Australia colours at the end of the year he is the biggest coward in the NRL
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Fatfita`s head lock slam on Arrow should get him a holiday .
Intentional , reckless ,dangerous .
 
Big Pete said:
There was one instance in the game that confused me and has me concerned moving forward. 52nd minute, the Brisbane Broncos lead 20-6 and receive a penalty inside the attacking zone.
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You only want to go for the two for these following reasons (and even then, going for the try may still be the better option):

1. If the kick will tie the game with time running low. Any other time in the game, and it is a marginally worse option.
2. If the kick will put you in the lead. (1-2 points ahead, after successful kick). This is the best mathematical option.
3. If the kick will put you up a converted try + conversion (8 points ahead, after successful kick)
4. If the kick will put you up two converted tries + conversion (14 points ahead, after successful kick)
5. Strategic kick due to time.

Going for a 6 point lead - the margins are basically the same. Going for a 10 point lead it is negative. Going for a 12 point lead it is slightly negative.

Once you are above 14 points -- it is never a better mathematical option.

As the leading team’s advantage increases, the marginal value of each point gets much, much smaller. The NFL have done many simulations around this. Time for the NRL, and the Broncs in particular, to get smarter here.

Another area we need to get a lot smarter in - 4th tackle options.
 
badyon said:
You only want to go for the two for these following reasons (and even then, going for the try may still be the better option):

1. If the kick will tie the game with time running low. Any other time in the game, and it is a marginally worse option.
2. If the kick will put you in the lead. (1-2 points ahead, after successful kick). This is the best mathematical option.
3. If the kick will put you up a converted try + conversion (8 points ahead, after successful kick)
4. If the kick will put you up two converted tries + conversion (14 points ahead, after successful kick)
5. Strategic kick due to time.

Going for a 6 point lead - the margins are basically the same. Going for a 10 point lead it is negative. Going for a 12 point lead it is slightly negative.

Once you are above 14 points -- it is never a better mathematical option.

As the leading team’s advantage increases, the marginal value of each point gets much, much smaller. The NFL have done many simulations around this. Time for the NRL, and the Broncs in particular, to get smarter here.

Another area we need to get a lot smarter in - 4th tackle options.
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Agree completely. Not only mathematically poor but drains intent and purpose. 70th minute go for it and eat a few mins but 52... nice if have ability to get repeat sets however and not cheap drop ball.
 
badyon said:
You only want to go for the two for these following reasons (and even then, going for the try may still be the better option):

1. If the kick will tie the game with time running low. Any other time in the game, and it is a marginally worse option.
2. If the kick will put you in the lead. (1-2 points ahead, after successful kick). This is the best mathematical option.
3. If the kick will put you up a converted try + conversion (8 points ahead, after successful kick)
4. If the kick will put you up two converted tries + conversion (14 points ahead, after successful kick)
5. Strategic kick due to time.

Going for a 6 point lead - the margins are basically the same. Going for a 10 point lead it is negative. Going for a 12 point lead it is slightly negative.

Once you are above 14 points -- it is never a better mathematical option.

As the leading team’s advantage increases, the marginal value of each point gets much, much smaller. The NFL have done many simulations around this. Time for the NRL, and the Broncs in particular, to get smarter here.

Another area we need to get a lot smarter in - 4th tackle options.
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Of course, there's a host of other reasons for going for the two which have nothing to do with the scoreboard. Settling the team down, giving them a breather, taking up a bit of time etc, etc. I'm sure Wayne knows what he's doing.
 
Is it Wayne's decision or an onfield one? I don't think Wayne would micro-manage to this extent but I could be wrong.
 
It is Wayne. Corvo signals the two and he has a headset on so I presume it's Wayne making the decision.
 
Great game last night. Really put the premiers to the sword. Gee we are coming good at the right end of the season. As for the Sharks players, gee they were grubby! The Gallen/Fafitas a wanker chant was priceless.

Great game by all the Broncs lads, especially Gilette and Milford, well done keep it up!
 
Is anyone else totally disgusted by the Fifita tackle on Arrow? To me it looked like the fucker had real intentions of doing some serious fucking damage to Arrow's neck, hence Arrow's reaction. Can't believe the NRL let this blowrag play the game still. Hope the prick gets suspended for it. Real bad look for the game IMO, but hasn't really been mentioned in the aftermath.

Every fucking tackle he sails close to the wind. He is very close to taking the mantle of the "biggest fuckwit I have seen play the game"
 
Feel like I should wrap everyone from last night, this team just looks great.

Boyd - Usual dependable self and is becoming more and more of a leader as the season progresses. Someone mentioned it last night but the way he was talking to the boys after a try was Locky/Hodges-esque.

Oates - Was Oates (just to be clear that is a compliment).

Roberts - Is always dangerous. I feel like his defence was a highlight last night.

Moga - The best he has played. Is such a weapon when it all comes together. Love his enthusiasm.

Kahu - probably pretty quiet but didn't let anyone down.

Milford - Looks so much better with the extra responsibility. Was in everything and he is clearly more comfortable playing alongside Knik.

Nikorima - I love this kid. His short ball is glorious and is so quick. Gillett must not know what to do with himself.

Sims - I always feel like he is underappreciated. Love the aggression and the fact that he isn't Ashton.

Hunt - To me hooker is his best position. I don't believe he can cope with the responsibility of Halfback but if he picks his moments at 9 he could be amazing.

More later, tired now.
 
mieko said:
Great game last night. Really put the premiers to the sword. Gee we are coming good at the right end of the season. As for the Sharks players, gee they were grubby! The Gallen/Fafitas a wanker chant was priceless.

Great game by all the Broncs lads, especially Gilette and Milford, well done keep it up!
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Silly Channel 9 tried to sell gallens 300th coincidentally being at Suncorp as a gift from god. It couldn't have been a worse place for Gallen and Fifita. They were always gonna get torn to shreds by the crowd.
 
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