Round 4 Discussion

Galah said:
It’s way worse
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Oh of course but I mean the part about just making up the rules as you go. Although that said, these days the management also makes it up as it goes, so I am wrong, that has changed too.
 
It's not like its a club that matters. This is a good reason we shouldn't tie so much cap up in players, Tom is amazing when he is healthy, but when was the last time he got through a full season and supported the club? He's going to miss more time after he returns and with that give Manly their first spoon, unless the NSWRL get a plea for support in the usual brown paper bag in the 19th hole.
 
Manly are a far cry from the defensive powerhouse they used to be under Des. They almost revelled being without the ball and just monstering teams with their defence, only to pick up the pieces with Stewart, Lyon and Orford leading the way. That's obviously going back 10 years, but it seemed like they were on their way a couple of years back through Jake Trbojevic who had a real sting with his defence. I'm not sure what's happened there, but Penrith just had all the time in the world and Manly couldn't get through a set of six to save themselves.

Provided he stays fit, Tom Trbojevic will help them escape the cellar but this was a team that could have been a real dark horse for the premiership. They have some wonderful talent coming through, but they're really beginning to look skinny up front. I don't think the Aloiai signing has helped them and they're really missing Joel Thompson on the fringes. I'm also beginning to wonder if the time has come to move on Curtis Sironen. He was pushing for rep honours not that long ago, but he just never stays on the field long enough. It's the worst attribute to have as a professional footballer, unavailability and it just seems like Curtis is missing games through one means or another.

I hope the return of Trbojevic rings in the changes for the Sea Eagles. Something along the lines of Trbojevic at fullback, Walker into the centres, Taufua on the wing, Olakau'atu and Sironen on the edge. I'd also be looking to reward Keppie for his performance tonight and bring him into the starting pack. I thought in a disappointing evening, he was one of the few stand-outs for the Sea Eagles. I'd be curious to see Cust given a shot as well, but get the feeling he's best used coming off the bench when the game opens up and he can have some space to run into.
 
Big Pete said:
Manly are a far cry from the defensive powerhouse they used to be under Des. They almost revelled being without the ball and just monstering teams with their defence, only to pick up the pieces with Stewart, Lyon and Orford leading the way. That's obviously going back 10 years, but it seemed like they were on their way a couple of years back through Jake Trbojevic who had a real sting with his defence. I'm not sure what's happened there, but Penrith just had all the time in the world and Manly couldn't get through a set of six to save themselves.

Provided he stays fit, Tom Trbojevic will help them escape the cellar but this was a team that could have been a real dark horse for the premiership. They have some wonderful talent coming through, but they're really beginning to look skinny up front. I don't think the Aloiai signing has helped them and they're really missing Joel Thompson on the fringes. I'm also beginning to wonder if the time has come to move on Curtis Sironen. He was pushing for rep honours not that long ago, but he just never stays on the field long enough. It's the worst attribute to have as a professional footballer, unavailability and it just seems like Curtis is missing games through one means or another.

I hope the return of Trbojevic rings in the changes for the Sea Eagles. Something along the lines of Trbojevic at fullback, Walker into the centres, Taufua on the wing, Olakau'atu and Sironen on the edge. I'd also be looking to reward Keppie for his performance tonight and bring him into the starting pack. I thought in a disappointing evening, he was one of the few stand-outs for the Sea Eagles. I'd be curious to see Cust given a shot as well, but get the feeling he's best used coming off the bench when the game opens up and he can have some space to run into.
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You’re calling for Jorge to come back?

Every Manly fan kinda hates that guy now. Outside of the huge shots, they believe him to be an overall liability.

but with the state they’re in, it’s hard to justify any argument of that sort
 
Allo said:
You’re calling for Jorge to come back?

Every Manly fan kinda hates that guy now. Outside of the huge shots, they believe him to be an overall liability.

but with the state they’re in, it’s hard to justify any argument of that sort
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I'm not too fussed either way when it comes to Taufua, they just need to give Saab a spell and Jorge is set to return around the same time. It seems like the type of move Des would go for.
 
Big Pete said:
Manly are a far cry from the defensive powerhouse they used to be under Des. They almost revelled being without the ball and just monstering teams with their defence, only to pick up the pieces with Stewart, Lyon and Orford leading the way. That's obviously going back 10 years, but it seemed like they were on their way a couple of years back through Jake Trbojevic who had a real sting with his defence. I'm not sure what's happened there, but Penrith just had all the time in the world and Manly couldn't get through a set of six to save themselves.

Provided he stays fit, Tom Trbojevic will help them escape the cellar but this was a team that could have been a real dark horse for the premiership. They have some wonderful talent coming through, but they're really beginning to look skinny up front. I don't think the Aloiai signing has helped them and they're really missing Joel Thompson on the fringes. I'm also beginning to wonder if the time has come to move on Curtis Sironen. He was pushing for rep honours not that long ago, but he just never stays on the field long enough. It's the worst attribute to have as a professional footballer, unavailability and it just seems like Curtis is missing games through one means or another.

I hope the return of Trbojevic rings in the changes for the Sea Eagles. Something along the lines of Trbojevic at fullback, Walker into the centres, Taufua on the wing, Olakau'atu and Sironen on the edge. I'd also be looking to reward Keppie for his performance tonight and bring him into the starting pack. I thought in a disappointing evening, he was one of the few stand-outs for the Sea Eagles. I'd be curious to see Cust given a shot as well, but get the feeling he's best used coming off the bench when the game opens up and he can have some space to run into.
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I sense a dis-connect running throughout this team. There were a fair few putting in, but there were a couple there last night who had their minds (and their hearts) elsewhere. Jake Turbo made a real passionate plea to the team at half-time but his game never lifted (as far as I could see) and when he shifted out wide he was even getting monstered by Penrith's backline. Keppie was full of energy and running as was Cust, and I think Shuster is worth sticking with. There was one offload he got away while being mauled by three Penrith players that defied the laws of physics. DCE was found wanting in defence against Kikau, are both his shoulders injured at present as he point blank refused to use them in the tackle. Their error rate and poor ball retention is not on Des, but if he does not fix this up soon it will be.
 
Yep manly are diabolical. Predictable in attack and easy to pick off and that's if they hold it long enough.
Buzzed was saying on 360 they concede an average 34 points to per game since around June last year.
They are in a horrible space cap wise with so much tied up in DCE and the Tryaboyubitches.
 
Big Pete said:
I'm not too fussed either way when it comes to Taufua, they just need to give Saab a spell and Jorge is set to return around the same time. It seems like the type of move Des would go for.
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Yep don't rate him either and agree with others that he's a liability but they just need something from their back 3.

A bit of intent running the ball and a big hit in defence every now and then would be more than Saab is contributing.
 
How are you meant to drink a beer while wearing a mask. Silly investigation.
 
This afternoons game between the dogs and souffs is so ridiculously mismatched. I just don’t think I can force myself to watch it. In fact the only thing this game offers me is it burns some time waiting to see our boys ambush and towel up the book binders from Melbourne.
 
I LOOOOOVE Friday night footy! LETS GET IT!
 
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