Should Mam be sacked?

[McHunt]

Everyone is waiting on the test results.

Unsure how long it's been since it occurred, but I think it was flagged it could take 5 weeks or so, especially if a forensic examination is required to determine if the level was sufficient to impare his driving.

Can take up to three months.

 

[Mr Fourex]

 

[McHunt]

IMO: He was never signing. Like heaps of players, using the Broncos to get more money.

I don't think you can put that on Hunt. The story has always been we couldn't afford to pay what the NRL would require. The NRL put that even further to bed ruling out any dispensation for Mam's potential suspension. It's been a non story. Another Cherry Evans/Nicho Hynes.

 

[Santa]

I don't think you can put that on Hunt. The story has always been we couldn't afford to pay what the NRL would require. The NRL put that even further to bed ruling out any dispensation for Mam's potential suspension. It's been a non story. Another Cherry Evans/Nicho Hynes.

What happened to him wanting to move back to Qld? Wasn't that the catalyst for him initially wanting to break his Dragons contract?

It also made sense that he was linked to us given he wanted to win a premiership - we're the obvious favourites for 2025.

 

[Big Del]

Everyone is waiting on the test results.

Unsure how long it's been since it occurred, but I think it was flagged it could take 5 weeks or so, especially if a forensic examination is required to determine if the level was sufficient to impare his driving.

Once that is done then they have to charge Ezra... and then a court date is scheduled.

If it comes back that the drugs were barely doing anything and potentially from days earlier he might not get charged with much, plead guilty and then cop his suspension from NRL.

If it comes back that he was high as a kite he might get harsher charges, plead not guilty and take it to court... at which point no fault stand down could come into play, because the NRL and Broncos cant hand down a punishment until he's found guilty or not and pleading not guilty to take it to court can take ages to sort out

There is no impairment test .
This is not the USA where they might get you to walk a straight line or stand on one foot before they decide to give you a drugs test .

And seeing the footage of Ezra laid out on the foot path I highly doubt the police would be able to ascertain if he was in a fit state to drive at the scene after the accident .

Then determining his level of impairment is gonna be a mine field .

 

[McHunt]

What happened to him wanting to move back to Qld? Wasn't that the catalyst for him initially wanting to break his Dragons contract?

It also made sense that he was linked to us given he wanted to win a premiership - we're the obvious favourites for 2025.

Did he specifically that, or was it just floated out there and he didn't dismiss it?

 

[McHunt]

There is no impairment test .
This is not the USA where they might get you to walk a straight line or stand on one foot before they decide to give you a drugs test .

And seeing the footage of Ezra laid out on the foot path I highly doubt the police would be able to ascertain if he was in a fit state to drive at the scene after the accident .

Then determining his level of impairment is gonna be a mine field .

He would have been in shock.

 

[Big Del]

He would have been in shock.

Yeah , probably whip lash as well .
And an air bag to the face is not pleasant I have been told .

So post accident they are gonna test his blood and tell how impaired he was ?
Good luck with that . Body mass + amount of drugs detected in his blood long after the accident = how capable he was of driving on his side of the road at the time of the collision ? I think the prosecution is in for an interesting time if Ezra`s KC tests their regime .

 

[Big Del]

Did he specifically that, or was it just floated out there and he didn't dismiss it?

He did say the Bronco`s have a soft spot for me .
Which aluded to a reconnection and redemption . Cagey little fcker .

 

[BroncsFan]

There is no impairment test .
This is not the USA where they might get you to walk a straight line or stand on one foot before they decide to give you a drugs test .

And seeing the footage of Ezra laid out on the foot path I highly doubt the police would be able to ascertain if he was in a fit state to drive at the scene after the accident .

Then determining his level of impairment is gonna be a mine field .

Refer previous comments from @Jason Simmons they have a blood test, because he was taken to hospital, they can get a forensic medical or something done on the test to give an assessment on whether the level of drugs in his system may have impaired his driving.

 

[Santa]

Did he specifically that, or was it just floated out there and he didn't dismiss it?

Seems like he said it.

‘I’d like to come home to Queensland’: Ben Hunt breaks his silence

Ben Hunt celebrated Wednesday’s Origin win but will now turn his sights to exiting St George Illawarra so he can return to Maroons territory.

www.smh.com.au

“I’ll play Friday, then have a meeting with the club and find out then,” Hunt said.

“I’d like to come home. That’s what we’d like to do. It’s for family reasons. There’s a whole lot more to it — other things — but that’s the main reason.

“I have missed the support networks with family, and the weather is always nice.

“Myself and my partner [Bridget], our families are here and my family is in central Queensland, so being in Sydney, we’re a long long way [away].

“We’ve enjoyed our time in Sydney but we’re ready to come home.

“I have a meeting with the club on Monday and Flanno. I’m just hopeful they listen. We’ll see how we go.

 

[BroncosFever]

He did say the Bronco`s have a soft spot for me .
Which aluded to a reconnection and redemption . Cagey little fcker .

You have to understand the question he would have been asked led him to respond in that way, that's the way it works.

He's not going to say "yeah, nah, **** them".

These journalists know what they're doing.

 

[Big Del]

You have to understand the question he would have been asked led him to respond in that way, that's the way it works.

He's not going to say "yeah, nah, **** them".

These journalists know what they're doing.

So did Benny .

 

[Big Del]

Refer previous comments from @Jason Simmons they have a blood test, because he was taken to hospital, they can get a forensic medical or something done on the test to give an assessment on whether the level of drugs in his system may have impaired his driving.

Police collect evidence .

Then you go to court with your KC who is the grand master of the Masonic Lodge and things get interesting . LOL .

The presence of , or residue of drugs is not gonna be a measure of impairment .
There is no calibrated test for Amphetamine , THC or Cocaine . AS there is for alcohol . We know by body weight and the amount of standard drinks approximately how impaired a person is on alcohol . Illicit substances I highly doubt it . The presence of , or proof of recent use - yes. Actual ability to keep a car on the right side of the road aka impairment - nah.
Like I said the lawyers will have a field day . And I expect if he is spending big on rehab . The best lawyers available will be on the job . Hence why I keep saying KC as in King`s Council rather than the old QC Queens Council .

 

[BroncsFan]

Police collect evidence .

Then you go to court with your KC who is the grand master of the Masonic Lodge and things get interesting . LOL .

The presence of , or residue of drugs is not gonna be a measure of impairment .
There is no calibrated test for Amphetamine , THC or Cocaine . AS there is for alcohol . We know by body weight and the amount of standard drinks approximately how impaired a person is on alcohol . Illicit substances I highly doubt it . The presence of , or proof of recent use - yes. Actual ability to keep a car on the right side of the road aka impairment - nah.
Like I said the lawyers will have a field day . And I expect if he is spending big on rehab . The best lawyers available will be on the job . Hence why I keep saying KC as in King`s Council rather than the old QC Queens Council .

I'm just referring to the below from our resident police insider and why the process could be taking so long.... which was the point of my comment, because that's what the OP comment was asking.

It takes time for the police to collect their evidence and then determine what the charges will be and no punishment will be handed down by the NRL or Broncos until those charges come out and whether Ezra pleads guilty or not guilty.

In the below it indicates "Depending on the results of said scientific testing, the investigators may require a medical opinion on the effects / quantity of any drugs detected in the system."

My interpretation of "effects" would be related to ability to drive, but I dont really care.... my original comment was the 5 weeks or so that it can take to get results back and then possible medical assessment that comes after that.

It's been about 3-4 weeks since it happened, so I'm assuming police are still in the evidence collecting phase.

If Ezra gets charged with something and they argue about the "effects" then it's up to him if he wants to take it through court or not.

Yep. 2 different tests.

JAC’s was a roadside drug test. The secondary test for that is conducted on a station or van based Draegar drug testing instrument. The whole testing process including transporting to station is completed in tens of minutes depending on the drive.

Mam’s was a roadside drug test and then because he was reportedly hospitalised, a blood sample for scientific testing in a laboratory setting by Qld Health. That process is out of police control, the analysis is done by QHSS and takes whatever it takes. I have had certificates back in as little as 2 weeks for a pure alcohol test, other drug tests can take 5 weeks or longer because of the spread of substances they need to test for (and potentially the type of testing).

Depending on the results of said scientific testing, the investigators may require a medical opinion on the effects / quantity of any drugs detected in the system.

Additionally there are other investigations on-going with the other parties in the crash, forensic and mechanical examinations of the vehicles involved and so on.

Then depending on the specifics they may seek to interview Mam before taking any action or may commence proceedings straight away.

Every one of these jobs are different.

 

[mitch222]

Email from the club just then to say formal charges have now been laid. The club will be issuing a full statement shortly.

 

[mitch222]

Just an FYI that was a stakeholder email to for shareholders in the company. Not a members email.

 

[Foordy]

Mam was charged with one count each of drive while relevant drug is present in blood and drive motor vehicle without a driver’s licence.

He was issued with a notice to appear at Brisbane Magistrates Court on December 16.

Mam has also been issued with a traffic infringement notice for fail to maintain control of vehicle.

Source: Courier Mail (not in Sports section yet)