State of Origin - Game 1 Discussion

Mr Fourex

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We can still best this lot. We might not have their depth of talent but that still doesn't mean we can't put out a side with some x factor to trouble them
Definitely.......happened last year......happened with "fatty's team".....been happening for years. As they say....on any given day, give us QLDr's half a chance and we'll usually take it.

NSW put it altogether on the field last night. They played particularly well. That said, it's not a gimme that they'll be able to do it again.....
 

mrslong

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Is Neil Henry around the squad in any capacity? Would be good to get him in to help Green.
 

Mustafur

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We may go a bit better next game, I felt Munster was definitely underdone coming from Injury, but we need better outside backs.

Even though QLD generally can outplay their ability, I do think the gap between our Players and NSW is probably too large this year, we have absolutely no answer to Turbo, and Latrell can walk through our edge with ease.

What Is happening with QLD Players coming through?
 

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We may go a bit better next game, I felt Munster was definitely underdone coming from Injury, but we need better outside backs.

Even though QLD generally can outplay their ability, I do think the gap between our Players and NSW is probably too large this year, we have absolutely no answer to Turbo, and Latrell can walk through our edge with ease.

What Is happening with QLD Players coming through?
Got players coming through in all positions except the centres (that I know of, I'm sure 1 1910, Smokin' Joe Smokin' Joe or Big Pete Big Pete will probably know of someone).
 

Sproj

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This is what I said to my dad this morning, I can't see a QLD'er in the Aus side..

There will definitely be some Qlders who make the Aussie side, warranted or not - Grant, Fifita, Munster and possibly Papalii and Tino.
 

Wolfie

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I'm going to do Paul Green a favour and pick our next side. Hope they are fully fit. You're Welcome Paul

1 Ponga
2 Holmes
3 Opacic
4 Gagai
5 Hamiso-Fidow
6 Munster
7 Cherry-Evans
8 Papalii
9 Grant
10 Welch
11 Fa'asuamaleaui
12 Capewell
13 Arrow

14 Mahoney/Hunt
15 Fifita
16 Molo
17 Fotuaika

That back 5 has 4 players who can add a bit of x-factor and will give the grubs something to think about. Holmes and Gagai's records in origin speak for themselves. Ponga if fit is quality, Opacic is there basically because he will do a decent job and we dont really have any other centers playing that great in the NRL anyway. Hamiso is a bit of a wild card, but he is a freak and we dont really have anyone else like him.

Our 6 and 7 at the moment pick themselves, i'm not convinced we can swap either yet. Same with the forwards, we are a bit low on options really. Molo is a great bench forward, i think Fifita will have more impact from the bench and Fotuaika is pretty consistent and hasnt really played poorly for QLD. I think we need a backup hooker to give Grant a break. The only selection people will probably think is odd is Tino in the back row, but i've seen him there plenty and i think he could offer us something there.
 

Wolfie

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Definitely.......happened last year......happened with "fatty's team".....been happening for years. As they say....on any given day, give us QLDr's half a chance and we'll usually take it.

NSW put it altogether on the field last night. They played particularly well. That said, it's not a gimme that they'll be able to do it again.....

We didnt test them. For as well as Turbo played, if he gets this roving role there could quite easily be gaps where he is playing if we are more on our game.
 

Nashy

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I'm going to just keep putting this down to Green being an absolutely useless ****. **** him off, we'll be right.
 

Big Pete

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Got players coming through in all positions except the centres (that I know of, I'm sure 1 1910, Smokin' Joe Smokin' Joe or Big Pete Big Pete will probably know of someone).
I'd say Xavier Coates is actually the most likely prospect coming through. Centre was his position coming through the grades but he's been serving his time on the wing as his apprenticeship. Otherwise, Cobbo would be the next big prospect coming through.

The wild card pick would be Ronaldo Mulitalo who actually came through as a centre but has found himself on the wings. Unfortunately injuries have hurt him, but there's a good player there if somebody could round off his edges.

There's a few junior centres running around but I wouldn't call any of them sensations, just good young prospects who could play NRL.
 

BroncsFan

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I'm going to do Paul Green a favour and pick our next side. Hope they are fully fit. You're Welcome Paul

1 Ponga
2 Holmes
3 Opacic
4 Gagai
5 Hamiso-Fidow
6 Munster
7 Cherry-Evans
8 Papalii
9 Grant
10 Welch
11 Fa'asuamaleaui
12 Capewell
13 Arrow

14 Mahoney/Hunt
15 Fifita
16 Molo
17 Fotuaika

That back 5 has 4 players who can add a bit of x-factor and will give the grubs something to think about. Holmes and Gagai's records in origin speak for themselves. Ponga if fit is quality, Opacic is there basically because he will do a decent job and we dont really have any other centers playing that great in the NRL anyway. Hamiso is a bit of a wild card, but he is a freak and we dont really have anyone else like him.

Our 6 and 7 at the moment pick themselves, i'm not convinced we can swap either yet. Same with the forwards, we are a bit low on options really. Molo is a great bench forward, i think Fifita will have more impact from the bench and Fotuaika is pretty consistent and hasnt really played poorly for QLD. I think we need a backup hooker to give Grant a break. The only selection people will probably think is odd is Tino in the back row, but i've seen him there plenty and i think he could offer us something there.
Don't disagree with much of that, but I would say that the titans have been trying Tino out in the back row at times this year and he doesn't quite look agile enough at the moment.

I daresay he has put on a bit of size since Melbourne converted him into a middle (I believe TIno was primarily a backrower in the juniors... pretty sure I've read on here that it was a backrow of Fifita and TIno).

If that's the case we probably have to keep Fifita in the starting back row... he was in full comfort mode last night, but he has shown at times this year that he can turn it on. What goes against him in origin is that Cleary is a good defensive halfback so he's not going to get any free runs.

So basically I would just switch Tino and Fifi around in your lineup... which gives us Tino back on the bench.

Molo I'm a little unsure of, but I daresay that final bench spot goes to whichever middle or backrower is performing the best at the time.
 

theshed

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I'm going to do Paul Green a favour and pick our next side. Hope they are fully fit. You're Welcome Paul

1 Ponga
2 Holmes
3 Opacic
4 Gagai
5 Hamiso-Fidow
6 Munster
7 Cherry-Evans
8 Papalii
9 Grant
10 Welch
11 Fa'asuamaleaui
12 Capewell
13 Arrow

14 Mahoney/Hunt
15 Fifita
16 Molo
17 Fotuaika

That back 5 has 4 players who can add a bit of x-factor and will give the grubs something to think about. Holmes and Gagai's records in origin speak for themselves. Ponga if fit is quality, Opacic is there basically because he will do a decent job and we dont really have any other centers playing that great in the NRL anyway. Hamiso is a bit of a wild card, but he is a freak and we dont really have anyone else like him.

Our 6 and 7 at the moment pick themselves, i'm not convinced we can swap either yet. Same with the forwards, we are a bit low on options really. Molo is a great bench forward, i think Fifita will have more impact from the bench and Fotuaika is pretty consistent and hasnt really played poorly for QLD. I think we need a backup hooker to give Grant a break. The only selection people will probably think is odd is Tino in the back row, but i've seen him there plenty and i think he could offer us something there.
Yep basically exactly the team I would’ve named, though I’d probably start Mahoney and have Grant come on mid first half like he did last origin where he offers great impact.

A few player’s names could be thrown up instead of Hamiso-fidow, and to a less extent Opacic, and I wouldn’t argue too much, but they were who I first thought of too.
 

Wolfie

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Yep basically exactly the team I would’ve named, though I’d probably start Mahoney and have Grant come on mid first half like he did last origin where he offers great impact.

A few player’s names could be thrown up instead of Hamiso-fidow, and to a less extent Opacic, and I wouldn’t argue too much, but they were who I first thought of too.

I think we need genuine centers for the next game tbh. I'm actually struggling to think of many decent wingers in for for QLD. Hammer just gives us that little bit more x-factor i feel. Good point about Mahoney, but he might not make the next game anyway so we would probably have to use Hunt as the backup hooker.
 

Wolfie

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Don't disagree with much of that, but I would say that the titans have been trying Tino out in the back row at times this year and he doesn't quite look agile enough at the moment.

I daresay he has put on a bit of size since Melbourne converted him into a middle (I believe TIno was primarily a backrower in the juniors... pretty sure I've read on here that it was a backrow of Fifita and TIno).

If that's the case we probably have to keep Fifita in the starting back row... he was in full comfort mode last night, but he has shown at times this year that he can turn it on. What goes against him in origin is that Cleary is a good defensive halfback so he's not going to get any free runs.

So basically I would just switch Tino and Fifi around in your lineup... which gives us Tino back on the bench.

Molo I'm a little unsure of, but I daresay that final bench spot goes to whichever middle or backrower is performing the best at the time.

Did cross my mind about Tino not looking as agile as he used to, i just wasnt impressed with Fifitas effort last night, and he has been very inconsistent all year, Molo imo was the best bench prop going around last year and i think he's been decent when i've seen him this year.
 
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