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It was a bad tackle and a suspension should happen but the issue, is it always is, is inconsistency. I don't think anyone would genuinely have an issue if every tackle of this type received a decent suspension.

The issue here is the stupidity of the MRC. We are all about inclusivity but having someone who cannot even see straight as your MRC Coordinator is obviously a massive detriment to your ability to do your job well.
I would except two weeks because it ended badly but anything more and I’ll be fuming as there has been countless tackles with more intent than carrigans gone unpunished. I hope we lawyer the **** up!
 
I would except two weeks because it ended badly but anything more and I’ll be fuming as there has been countless tackles with more intent than carrigans gone unpunished. I hope we lawyer the **** up!
Would you prefer those type of tackles remain unpunished or would you like the judiciary to hand out a stiffer punishment in future?
 
Patty looses his footing (his boots are full of grass clippings) which slips him down from his initial contact just under the rips, if you slow it down his face bounces of Paix's forearm then gets buried in Hastings ass momentarily. Momentum does the rest unfortunately.
 
Would you prefer those type of tackles remain unpunished or would you like the judiciary to hand out a stiffer punishment in future?
I mean, I don’t actually agree that carrigan did the damage for starters the two blokes that folded Hastings over did, he pulled as his waste trying to stop his legs from moving. This isn’t clear cut for me at all. Clearys on Walters had way more intent, he got off…
 
I mean, I don’t actually agree that carrigan did the damage for starters the two blokes that folded Hastings over did, he pulled as his waste trying to stop his legs from moving. This isn’t clear cut for me at all. Clearys on Walters had way more intent, he got off…
I'm not sure how you can establish "intent" on this. It is what it is, as they say. Carrigan didn't even need to get involved, truth be told:

 
I'm not sure how you can establish "intent" on this. It is what it is, as they say. Carrigan didn't even need to get involved, truth be told:


It’s a pull down not a hip drop but I 100% agree he didn’t need to be involved and should cop two weeks for it because of the outcome.
 
So Cleary got 5 weeks

Patty should get no more than 3 weeks....IMO
 
Would you prefer those type of tackles remain unpunished or would you like the judiciary to hand out a stiffer punishment in future?

I think a 4-5 week ban is fair in this case, it's unfortunate but he's caused it with a dangerous action and the player is out for an extended period.

But, in answer to your question, what I'd prefer is for those players who do the same, or worse, deliberately attempt to hurt another player illegally, face the same or even tougher suspensions regardless of the outcome.

Sticking your elbow in to someone's face and using your full body weight to force down on them against the ground is not accidental and very lucky not to cause a significant injury. Deliberately twisting a player's knee in a tackle is not an accident and can end up with either a season on the sidelines or the end of someone's career. Those actions should require the offender to spend a very long time on the sideline.
 
I think it's the actions of the two over the top that end up leading to the injury more so than Pat doing a hip drop... he basically controls the legs, but the other two then drive back over the top.

I dont really know what they were thinking with that action... even if Hastings doesnt get injured, Pat would end up underneath everyone and likely out of the next play because he's trapped in the ruck
Remember the vid of Patty mic ed up ?
He was saying 'Run him back " when they got good hard contact and stopped the momentum

. Meaning drive the guy backwards over the top . Difference is this time Patty got himself in under and behind as his boys did the run him back move . Obviously something they practice . But ,,, without a 3rd man in behind hanging off the ball runners hips ...
 
So Cleary got 5 weeks

Patty should get no more than 3 weeks....IMO

Quite possible .
Cleary got more because of the ugly tackle on Billy earlier in the season . 2nd offence gets upgraded .
 
I think a 4-5 week ban is fair in this case, it's unfortunate but he's caused it with a dangerous action and the player is out for an extended period.

But, in answer to your question, what I'd prefer is for those players who do the same, or worse, deliberately attempt to hurt another player illegally, face the same or even tougher suspensions regardless of the outcome.

Sticking your elbow in to someone's face and using your full body weight to force down on them against the ground is not accidental and very lucky not to cause a significant injury. Deliberately twisting a player's knee in a tackle is not an accident and can end up with either a season on the sidelines or the end of someone's career. Those actions should require the offender to spend a very long time on the sideline.
I guess what I'm asking about "consistency" is whether the judiciary should react to howls of protest that certain judgements were too harsh or too lean and potentially adjust their sentence next time, or whether they should persist with a "consistent" punishment, regardless that it might've been inappropriate?

It's more of a rhetorical question. Neither answer will satisfy everyone.
 

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