The Corey Oates Issue.

Morkel

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Other side of that. How quickly Broncos fans are prepared to put up with player who has sucked at his job all year, because he was good last year, and he seems like a nice guy.

He has played like shit for most of the year. He doesn't deserve any form of praise. He deserves to be dropped, to remind him that to play in first grade, you have to play like a first grader.
He was just about bulletproof leading up to Origin this year. We don’t need to go back to last year to see how good he was.

AFAIC, there is no Oates Issue. He is a fucking gun, he can do what very few players, let alone wingers, can do, and can do it without a team of cheating scum feeding him the field position and open space.

Sign him for 5 years on $550k /yr and tell him to just run over whatever is in front of him.
 

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I haven't re-watched the game as yet, but I think at the moment the attacking structure we have basically looks to have Boyd as the fullback in attack and Milf as a half.

But then Boyd said last week Milf controls the right, Boyd the left and SOS acts as link man between them... surely we aren't playing like this as it prevents you getting the extra man from the fullback.

What I think might be happening is Milf is playing fullback on the right (ie. the extra man), but playing 6 on the left. This basically pushes Darius one out when Milf comes left but unless he positions himself correctly before Milf comes over he's not really acting as a sweeping fullback to get the extra man, he's more like another link man on the left.

I think it is a very complex structure no matter how you look at it and we probably haven't got ourselves sorted out yet.

I'll have to take a better look at what's happening.

The other thing is our second rowers have been absolute beasts in recent weeks so they're looking to hit them short rather than letting them go as decoys to generate quick ptb's and go off the back of them again
 

Rookie Alan

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I’m talking about the first 6 months of no sleep impacting your performance at work.

It would take a pretty shit human for their child not to make them a better person.
I’ve slept with my baby girl in the same room for the night leaving my wife in a separate room, and woke up five to a dozen times in the first 12 months.

My wife took over the baby girl from me about one hour before I went to work.

It never affected my work performance, I’m like high for the first year but without any drugs involved.

The joy of being father, the extra responsibility overcomes the fatigue.
 

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I think when we are attacking to the left darius should be playing deeper and be receiving the ball 2 passes out milf should be running a line for an out ball in ball and oates should be looking for the cut out pass but that is something that would need an off season to work on.
 

Rookie Alan

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and his performances that were lower than the lofty heights expected of him for ONE MONTH, is enough for you to throw the guy on the scrap heap ...
I’ve already answered the other guy about night sleep thing of being new father, so don’t want reply you with the same staff.

I’m not most of the guy, I don’t rate Oates that high ever, in another thread I’ve mentioned as I could think about a dozen good wingers better than Oates performance this season, so no, I did not judge him by just last month, but I made statements like that based on keeping reading people criticizing Oates for last month performance.
 

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Oates is a confidence player. In a game, if he catches the first couple of high balls, he is set for the game, but if he drops one, that is it for the night.

Whether it is injury, low confidence or the change in our fullback, oates' form is down. He used to avg about 160 metres a game but hasnt gone near that in the past few.

I am happy to stick with him, as isaako has shown, form can change quickly. Corey is very likeable so i dont think it would be a huge amount from our cap as he is appealing to many third parties.
 

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It's nothing to do with form, purely the amount he is asking. He has left it late and our forwards have improved so much they are demanding bigger paydays. Unfortunately he may become a cap victim or he will need to take under 500k.
The fact is we have to be getting very tight with our cap.
 
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We aren't in the semis without Oates and Isaako. They have both been major contributors, just look at where we sit if all goal kicks are removed...12 th of 16 !

Oates is fine and his pay packet (salary cap considered) is not our concern. As long as he and the Bronco's are happy, I'm happy. Got to admit, I like the big dopey ****.
 

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If Boyd is in the halves on the left for the next 2 years, then Corey isn't going to be doing much for the next 2 years either. Not unless Fifita develops a ball playing game too.
 

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If Boyd is in the halves on the left for the next 2 years, then Corey isn't going to be doing much for the next 2 years either. Not unless Fifita develops a ball playing game too.
It's never been said that Boyd will be here for the next two years. The only thing confirmed is that DB is playing next year and he will reassess next year. That may be mid season or at the end of 2020, nobody including DB knows with any certainty.
 

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I’ve slept with my baby girl in the same room for the night leaving my wife in a separate room, and woke up five to a dozen times in the first 12 months.

My wife took over the baby girl from me about one hour before I went to work.

It never affected my work performance, I’m like high for the first year but without any drugs involved.

The joy of being father, the extra responsibility overcomes the fatigue.
Anything to rip on Oates and take away any excuses that might show why his form dropped a bit aye?

I’m calling bullshit that you were fine with fucked up sleep patterns. If not then lucky you, you’re the exception and not the rule.
 

winslow_wong

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He was just about bulletproof leading up to Origin this year. We don’t need to go back to last year to see how good he was.

AFAIC, there is no Oates Issue. He is a fucking gun, he can do what very few players, let alone wingers, can do, and can do it without a team of cheating scum feeding him the field position and open space.

Sign him for 5 years on $550k /yr and tell him to just run over whatever is in front of him.
Couldn’t run over Cook. That’s the broncos mentality this year though, let’s play Barge Ball because we’ll just run over anyone in front of us. Bit more to rugby league than that unfortunately
 

Rookie Alan

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Anything to rip on Oates and take away any excuses that might show why his form dropped a bit aye?

I’m calling bullshit that you were fine with fucked up sleep patterns. If not then lucky you, you’re the exception and not the rule.
Hey mate, Oates is a guy makes half a million a season, he got the money to hire someone for help if he couldn’t seek from his or his wife’s family.

I’m not the rule, but Oates can’t be an exception either for being immune of not being criticized of not behaving on the field.

Every club have a 30 roster, 17 squad for each game, if we really want to find excuses for players not behaving well, it won’t be hard.

No wonder we can’t win a premiership for such a long time, this soft tolenrence is not champion winning material
 

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Corey Oates has always had problems in his game.

He's always been error prone and has a knack for making stupid errors and he rarely contests a high bomb. He could score a ridiculous try like the one against the Sharks in 2018 and then back it up with a bonehead mistake. He has been that way since he came into first grade, those problems were just masked because he was scoring tries so a lot of people either didn't realize or just didn't pay much attention to it because he was making up for those mistakes.

He has suffered as a result of the Boyd/Milford switch and he isn't scoring tries which is making people more aware of his problems. That will change, though.

He is still one of the best wingers in the game and has the ability to win games with his strength and try scoring ability so getting rid of him would be a boneheaded mistake. Especially when we already have the funds freed up to lock up our gun forwards.

I doubt he is ever going to get to a point where he is as safe as houses so that's just one of those things people are going to have to accept if they want a try scoring machine on the wing.

A full pre-season with Milford at fullback, I have no doubt Oates will be back to his usual try scoring ways.
 

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