The end of the shoulder charge?

[Dexter]

Does a shoulder charge need to be deliberate ... I can't think of many things that needto be deliberate to attract a charge...

Parker has had a bit of a go at people whinging at the crackdown... He said it has been black and white all year, the players were instructed at the start of the season what eould be deemed a shoulder charge by the referees and MRC. In fact there has been no change to the rule itself, just the judiciary guidelines.

So if players don't want to be suspended for a shoulder charge then i have an easy way for them to avoid it .... Don't shoulder charge, seems simple enough.

Thanks Paul Kent. :)

In the Taufua case he didn't change direction or attempt to charge . Wighton ran into him he simply braced himself for the collision . Anyone saying there is no grey area is kidding . If the NRL want to rule SC s in black and white that's fine but let's see their resolve (coming soon I suspect) when they get a similar incident leading into a final or GF .
I can't wait to hear the BS excuse they use to let a big name (probably Sydney based) player slip through .

 

[Morkel]

Does a shoulder charge need to be deliberate ... I can't think of many things that needto be deliberate to attract a charge...

Parker has had a bit of a go at people whinging at the crackdown... He said it has been black and white all year, the players were instructed at the start of the season what eould be deemed a shoulder charge by the referees and MRC. In fact there has been no change to the rule itself, just the judiciary guidelines.

So if players don't want to be suspended for a shoulder charge then i have an easy way for them to avoid it .... Don't shoulder charge, seems simple enough.

That is a pretty excellent point. They have grades of high tackles ranging from careless to reckless and up. I wouldn't be against a Taufua one being a Grade 1 Careless Shoulder Charge worth 90 points or something. Not enough to get someone suspended on its own, but enough to give them a wake up call.

 

[Dexter]

What about shoulder charging in attack. It happens all the time with attacking players dropping the shoulder to bounce someone away or an attacking player who is taller than a defender making deliberate contact with the shoulder to the head.

If this is a player welfare issue then why can it happen in attack? Is it only a matter of time before changes get made to how you run into the defence.
OH&S laws in the general workforce sometimes beggar belief I just wonder if this is the start of something similar.

 

[Morkel]

What about shoulder charging in attack. It happens all the time with attacking players dropping the shoulder to bounce someone away or an attacking player who is taller than a defender making deliberate contact with the shoulder to the head.

If this is a player welfare issue then why can it happen in attack? Is it only a matter of time before changes get made to how you run into the defence.
OH&S laws in the general workforce sometimes beggar belief I just wonder if this is the start of something similar.

I get the point, but there are some difficulties:

* If you've got the ball tucked in, you've got your arm close to your body. If you hang your arm out a bit then it's a very insecure carry.

* Even if the shoulder used is the non-ball-carrying one, the defender has a much higher chance of avoiding dangerous contact. There's only one ball-runner, normally on multiple defenders, it's harder for one person to avoid 6 shoulders than it is for three to avoid 1.

* Can you imagine the milking? With a ball in hand it is almost impossible to run perfectly straight-on and balanced. Even with the leading arm up, a defender just has to run in from the side, get deliberately "hit" by shoulder of the ball-carrying arm, and feign injury.

If the players and coaches find it hard to understand the rules now, they'll have no chance if it's ruled on both sides of the ball. Regardless of how correct your principal argument is.

 

[Dexter]

I get the point, but there are some difficulties:

* If you've got the ball tucked in, you've got your arm close to your body. If you hang your arm out a bit then it's a very insecure carry.

* Even if the shoulder used is the non-ball-carrying one, the defender has a much higher chance of avoiding dangerous contact. There's only one ball-runner, normally on multiple defenders, it's harder for one person to avoid 6 shoulders than it is for three to avoid 1.

* Can you imagine the milking? With a ball in hand it is almost impossible to run perfectly straight-on and balanced. Even with the leading arm up, a defender just has to run in from the side, get deliberately "hit" by shoulder of the ball-carrying arm, and feign injury.

If the players and coaches find it hard to understand the rules now, they'll have no chance if it's ruled on both sides of the ball. Regardless of how correct your principal argument is.

This could become a cluster **** of epic proportions. Dangerous contact is dangerous contact with or without the ball so once again if player safety is the reason for the SC crackdown then it has to apply from either side of the ball. You don't get less damaged because someone has a ball in their possession. (See Nigel Plum)

Trying to apply OH&S standards to Rugby League is ridiculous in some cases, you just can't stop some things from happening, and the Taufua Wighton clash is a perfect example.

 

[tommy]

20-30 years from now the game will pretty much be touch football. Hopefully I'm dead by then .

 

[Foordy]

Isaac Luke found not guilty ... Next

 

[Harry Sack]

That's 1.....

 

[ivanhungryjak]

You'd have to think Tafua will get off then.

 

[Browny]

Only took em 3 mins to clear Taufua

 

[Unbreakable]

Aidan Guerra has been found not guilty.

 

[GCBRONCO]

Bloody farce the judiciary is

 

[Browny]

lol@greenburg #jokeadministration

 

[broncos4life]

I fucking knew it, what an absolute farce.

Actually it's not the judiciary that is the real farce, it is the NRL that lets this happen time and time again. How Dave Smith and that fucking **** Greenberg stay in a job is beyond me.

 

[GCBRONCO]

It's been confirmed, they all used the Chewbacca defense

 

[Foordy]

The NRL judiciary loves to continually prove why they are the laughing stock of world sport

 

[Dexter]

Thanks Paul Kent. :)

In the Taufua case he didn't change direction or attempt to charge . Wighton ran into him he simply braced himself for the collision . Anyone saying there is no grey area is kidding . If the NRL want to rule SC s in black and white that's fine but let's see their resolve (coming soon I suspect) when they get a similar incident leading into a final or GF .
I can't wait to hear the BS excuse they use to let a big name (probably Sydney based) player slip through .

Well that was quicker than I expected. I agree with Taufua being not guilty but FMD how Guerra or Luke got off is a joke. Both players had options and chose to go through with the shoulder.

 

[Kaz]

Only took em 3 mins to clear Taufua

That long.

They shouldn't have left their seats.