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The psychology behind how Broncos can get out of form slump

Shayne Duncan
Performance Psychologist
Wednesday 22nd July, 2020

Last year it was the Panthers and the year before it was the Eels who were under the blowtorch due to form slumps that defied logic and expectations. This year it's the Broncos.

What should give Brisbane fans some encouragement is that Penrith and Parramatta turned it around and now are at the top of the Telstra Premiership ladder, so there is certainly light at the end of the tunnel.

As a psychologist, it's wise to follow the mantra "prescription without diagnosis is malpractice".

When teams or individual athletes are in a form slump everyone comes out of the woodwork to offer a solution.

Here's where the wannabe gurus and snake oil salespeople prey on those who are down and vulnerable. It's not uncommon for some sporting organisations to receive 500 emails per day when going through a form slump.

Diagnosis of a slump

As far as a diagnosis goes, the Broncos are in a typical form slump, with some added intensity due to additional factors.

Firstly, they are a proud club with a history of success.

Secondly, they are a one-team town with a huge fan base.

Finally, they have a relatively new coach who came into the job last year in a controversial manner.

These three factors have nothing to do with the football being played, but they significantly add to the pressure on the staff and players. Too much pressure doesn’t help people perform at the level they are capable of achieving.

So, what are the features of a form slump?

Losing is the obvious one. A string of defeats is the giveaway, but any decent coach will tell you it’s possible for teams to have poor form and still win.

What separates a form slump from a regular loss is the nature of the performance - the way the loss was produced.

Seibold has publicly stated the team lacks resilience and that was certainly on show in the 48-0 loss against the Wests Tigers, who basically bashed the Broncos from the opening whistle and delivered the knockout blow in the first half with Benji Marshall's try.

What was telling about this try is how it eventuated.

Sure, it came off an error, but more importantly, it came off the back of players being passive and not catching a kick - they let it bounce and a string of events unfolded that led to the try.

When teams are in a form slump, players revert to going through the motions to save their job.

It's all about creating the appearance they are doing their job.

Specifically, they say all the right things like "we're disappointed with that performance, it’s just not good enough and we’re working hard to turn it around, blah, blah, blah".

The problem is you can only say this stuff for so long before someone has to call BS.

On the training paddock, going through the motions looks like players being in the position they are meant to be in, but they will lack the intensity and purpose they need to successfully execute the play.

This is what happened for the Marshall try to be scored.

There were three Broncos in the frame when that kick bounced. One player was ducking his head to avoid a Falcon. So, the players were there. They were in the right spot, but none of them attacked the ball with the intent to catch it on the full.

Eventually, a Bronco grabs the bouncing ball, but he is under immediate pressure due to three Tigers defenders. He spills the ball in the tackle which Marshall scoops up to score. Game, set and match right there.

What should have happened was a Broncos player calls for the ball and catches it on the full, gets smashed by the chasers, but diffuses the risk and starts a yardage Broncos set with the ball.

The try to Tigers forward Luciano Leilua off the drop-out is a similar story. Broncos players are in the frame but there's no intent to regather the ball or make the tackle.

One Bronco slips over trying to regather the ball, another makes a poor attempt at a tackle and the third one is too late to stop the try.

At the other end of the field, the same thing unfolds. Brisbane only had one decent scoring opportunity all game, late in the first half.

The Broncos had what looked like a four on three on the left edge, but Anthony Milford put in a kick that went dead instead of going through the hands.

This happens during a form slump as nothing appears to go your way and poor decisions are made out of trying too hard to make things happen to produce a result.

Going through the motions is a hallmark sign of a team in a slump and Brisbane's performances are full of them.

Working hard isn't going to fix it. They need to work smart.

Blame culture in disconnected team

Another telltale sign of a form slump is players become disconnected as a blame culture creeps in.

Players want to distance themselves from any errors so they avoid the blame and keep their spot in the team.

No one wants to stick their neck out and put their spot at risk so players just do their own job and stop looking after their mate.

In a team sport like rugby league, this is the death knell. You can see how disconnected the players are when they are in a huddle after the opposition scores.

As the score blows out, players start to physically separate themselves from each other and the huddle spreads out further and further. The Broncos aren't connected here.

Some players are talking among themselves, others are standing on their own and only a few are listening to what their trainer, Allan Langer, has to say. That speaks volumes.

Solutions can work quickly

So how do you fix it?

The first thing you need to do as a coach of a team in a form slump is get the group re-connected.

They are not going to get out of it on their own as individuals. They have to start playing for each other again for this to turn around.

That means people have to put aside any differences they may have or any gripes they have about what position they are playing or the game plan and so on.

This is the toughest part. You need a catalyst or a trigger that sparks the group back together. Sometimes that trigger comes from an external source.

I have done plenty of these sessions. This is how they unfold.

You start by recognising the divisions and issues and you clean the slate so there is no baggage. The next task is to set out the plan to follow to turn things around. Then you look for buy-in from the group.

If the message resonates and connection happens, you are on your way.

The reality is form slumps can be solved in a heartbeat. It just takes a decision.

Players have to decide to let go of all the stuff holding them back and be willing to step up and do what it takes to turn things around, no matter what. If they decide as a group, you are in business.

This leads to the next step – the effort performance, which puts these words into action.

The talk now stops.

Talk is cheap, especially when in a form slump.

One team I worked with banned talking. Their mantra was simply "show me", which is all about taking action. Action, action, action.

Once your group is reconnected, the next task is to experience that connection on the field in the heat of battle.

Sport is about timing, rhythm and skill execution and there are so many things that can disrupt all of those, such as pressure, fear, job security and so on.

Players need to start playing for each other, putting their body on the line again, taking the hard carries and getting smashed by catching bombs under pressure.

The effort performance is all about competing on every play. It's not about winning.

You need an effort performance before you can win, so this is where you start when resurrecting from a form slump.

In 2019, Penrith's effort performance turned out to be a game they won. That can happen. Sometimes it takes a game or two to develop the consistency in effort needed to win games.

By shifting your team's focus away from all the infighting, media scrutiny and usual pressure from expectations they can just focus on one simple thing. A single focus leads to increased performance and that leads to a win.

Eventually, the breakthrough moment will happen. Then the task becomes sustaining it by staying connected and not getting too carried away with results. You do that by sticking to effort as the priority and the focus.

Season can be salvaged

As a coach, your job depends on wins. For Seibold, this is the pathway to achieve what he needs to achieve to stay a Bronco.

There are 10 weeks left in the regular season to turn it around, which is great. This is how I would split up the 10 weeks.

Weeks 1,2,3: Looking for effort performances and the breakthrough. Give your players room to get this right as you are building the platform here. Look to win one from three as a pass mark.

Weeks 4,5,6: Building on the breakthrough win and consolidating effort performances. Winning brings confidence, so look to win two from three as a pass mark.

Weeks 7,8,9,10: By now a pattern and habit should be in place that can be ramped up. Here, the team should be firing on all cylinders and the players have our groove back. A pass mark is two out of four, but you are looking for three or four victories.

That only leaves one question. Can Seibold do it?

We will find out over the next 10 weeks.

Shayne Duncan is a performance psychologist who has worked in several sports with a particular interest in rugby league.

The views in this article do not necessarily express the opinions of the NRL, ARL Commission, NRL clubs or state associations.


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Broncos had Phil Jauncey for 20 years but got rid of him. He would deal with all these things and is the premier Performance Psychologist. He also did the Bulls and Lions.

Do we have anyone now?

The biggest disappointment of Seibold as a coach for me is that I bought into his academic new age coaching act. I thought he’d bring with him the cutting edge in sport science and apply it to league. I expected to have a roosters type set up, Instead we don’t seem to have any specialist staff. We got Ben Cross.
The only interesting thing Seibold did was bring with him his stat nerd which is cool but I imagine his job this season has consisted of reading a Professor Frink contraption and saying “we suck in every area”.
 
Broncos had Phil Jauncey for 20 years but got rid of him. He would deal with all these things and is the premier Performance Psychologist. He also did the Bulls and Lions.
Did this happen as part of the covid redundancies??
 
Fair and real points. As 1910 said, we did have.....
 
The blame game needs to stop, as described so eloquently above. This is a wake up call that puts together everything the club needs to do to turn things around ... what the CLUB needs to do ... put in place the tools necessary. Now. This is where we must start. And absolutely everyone needs to chip in, become involved and stop blaming, stop the excuses and focus on being part of the problem, and thus part of the solution.

As many of us have said on here, blaming individuals abstracted from the big picture is a waste of time. If getting rid of Seibold, or certain players, or both, is an agenda for some players, or within the management, then look at the cost of the consequences of such myopia. It's always about the big picture first, then isolating the bits that make it up and how.

I am sure the club, including Seibold, his staff and players have read this. If not they have to be told. And then go and do it. Go change. Let's do this

This thread ought to be pinned
 
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Sounds good to read but I would have thought Anthony would have been all over this sort of stuff. Most of the better coaches would have this in their DNA. That’s what the difference may be, some can extract it and some are unable. Currently our coach is the latter.
 
Sounds good to read but I would have thought Anthony would have been all over this sort of stuff. Most of the better coaches would have this in their DNA. That’s what the difference may be, some can extract it and some are unable. Currently our coach is the latter.

More blaming? What's the point? Other coaches had 7 years to evolve, with support from an intelligent board, and all players on-board.

Seibold is essentially a rookie coach who walked into a cess pool without gum boots. He made mistakes, possibly hubris being one of them. he has now learned the hard way. The test of his mettle is what he does now, and that goes way beyond a roster change
 
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The psychology behind how Broncos can get out of form slump

Shayne Duncan
Performance Psychologist
Wednesday 22nd July, 2020

Last year it was the Panthers and the year before it was the Eels who were under the blowtorch due to form slumps that defied logic and expectations. This year it's the Broncos.

What should give Brisbane fans some encouragement is that Penrith and Parramatta turned it around and now are at the top of the Telstra Premiership ladder, so there is certainly light at the end of the tunnel.

As a psychologist, it's wise to follow the mantra "prescription without diagnosis is malpractice".

When teams or individual athletes are in a form slump everyone comes out of the woodwork to offer a solution.

Here's where the wannabe gurus and snake oil salespeople prey on those who are down and vulnerable. It's not uncommon for some sporting organisations to receive 500 emails per day when going through a form slump.

Diagnosis of a slump

As far as a diagnosis goes, the Broncos are in a typical form slump, with some added intensity due to additional factors.

Firstly, they are a proud club with a history of success.

Secondly, they are a one-team town with a huge fan base.

Finally, they have a relatively new coach who came into the job last year in a controversial manner.

These three factors have nothing to do with the football being played, but they significantly add to the pressure on the staff and players. Too much pressure doesn’t help people perform at the level they are capable of achieving.

So, what are the features of a form slump?

Losing is the obvious one. A string of defeats is the giveaway, but any decent coach will tell you it’s possible for teams to have poor form and still win.

What separates a form slump from a regular loss is the nature of the performance - the way the loss was produced.

Seibold has publicly stated the team lacks resilience and that was certainly on show in the 48-0 loss against the Wests Tigers, who basically bashed the Broncos from the opening whistle and delivered the knockout blow in the first half with Benji Marshall's try.

What was telling about this try is how it eventuated.

Sure, it came off an error, but more importantly, it came off the back of players being passive and not catching a kick - they let it bounce and a string of events unfolded that led to the try.

When teams are in a form slump, players revert to going through the motions to save their job.

It's all about creating the appearance they are doing their job.

Specifically, they say all the right things like "we're disappointed with that performance, it’s just not good enough and we’re working hard to turn it around, blah, blah, blah".

The problem is you can only say this stuff for so long before someone has to call BS.

On the training paddock, going through the motions looks like players being in the position they are meant to be in, but they will lack the intensity and purpose they need to successfully execute the play.

This is what happened for the Marshall try to be scored.

There were three Broncos in the frame when that kick bounced. One player was ducking his head to avoid a Falcon. So, the players were there. They were in the right spot, but none of them attacked the ball with the intent to catch it on the full.

Eventually, a Bronco grabs the bouncing ball, but he is under immediate pressure due to three Tigers defenders. He spills the ball in the tackle which Marshall scoops up to score. Game, set and match right there.

What should have happened was a Broncos player calls for the ball and catches it on the full, gets smashed by the chasers, but diffuses the risk and starts a yardage Broncos set with the ball.

The try to Tigers forward Luciano Leilua off the drop-out is a similar story. Broncos players are in the frame but there's no intent to regather the ball or make the tackle.

One Bronco slips over trying to regather the ball, another makes a poor attempt at a tackle and the third one is too late to stop the try.

At the other end of the field, the same thing unfolds. Brisbane only had one decent scoring opportunity all game, late in the first half.

The Broncos had what looked like a four on three on the left edge, but Anthony Milford put in a kick that went dead instead of going through the hands.

This happens during a form slump as nothing appears to go your way and poor decisions are made out of trying too hard to make things happen to produce a result.

Going through the motions is a hallmark sign of a team in a slump and Brisbane's performances are full of them.

Working hard isn't going to fix it. They need to work smart.

Blame culture in disconnected team

Another telltale sign of a form slump is players become disconnected as a blame culture creeps in.

Players want to distance themselves from any errors so they avoid the blame and keep their spot in the team.

No one wants to stick their neck out and put their spot at risk so players just do their own job and stop looking after their mate.

In a team sport like rugby league, this is the death knell. You can see how disconnected the players are when they are in a huddle after the opposition scores.

As the score blows out, players start to physically separate themselves from each other and the huddle spreads out further and further. The Broncos aren't connected here.

Some players are talking among themselves, others are standing on their own and only a few are listening to what their trainer, Allan Langer, has to say. That speaks volumes.

Solutions can work quickly

So how do you fix it?

The first thing you need to do as a coach of a team in a form slump is get the group re-connected.

They are not going to get out of it on their own as individuals. They have to start playing for each other again for this to turn around.

That means people have to put aside any differences they may have or any gripes they have about what position they are playing or the game plan and so on.

This is the toughest part. You need a catalyst or a trigger that sparks the group back together. Sometimes that trigger comes from an external source.

I have done plenty of these sessions. This is how they unfold.

You start by recognising the divisions and issues and you clean the slate so there is no baggage. The next task is to set out the plan to follow to turn things around. Then you look for buy-in from the group.

If the message resonates and connection happens, you are on your way.

The reality is form slumps can be solved in a heartbeat. It just takes a decision.

Players have to decide to let go of all the stuff holding them back and be willing to step up and do what it takes to turn things around, no matter what. If they decide as a group, you are in business.

This leads to the next step – the effort performance, which puts these words into action.

The talk now stops.

Talk is cheap, especially when in a form slump.

One team I worked with banned talking. Their mantra was simply "show me", which is all about taking action. Action, action, action.

Once your group is reconnected, the next task is to experience that connection on the field in the heat of battle.

Sport is about timing, rhythm and skill execution and there are so many things that can disrupt all of those, such as pressure, fear, job security and so on.

Players need to start playing for each other, putting their body on the line again, taking the hard carries and getting smashed by catching bombs under pressure.

The effort performance is all about competing on every play. It's not about winning.

You need an effort performance before you can win, so this is where you start when resurrecting from a form slump.

In 2019, Penrith's effort performance turned out to be a game they won. That can happen. Sometimes it takes a game or two to develop the consistency in effort needed to win games.

By shifting your team's focus away from all the infighting, media scrutiny and usual pressure from expectations they can just focus on one simple thing. A single focus leads to increased performance and that leads to a win.

Eventually, the breakthrough moment will happen. Then the task becomes sustaining it by staying connected and not getting too carried away with results. You do that by sticking to effort as the priority and the focus.

Season can be salvaged

As a coach, your job depends on wins. For Seibold, this is the pathway to achieve what he needs to achieve to stay a Bronco.

There are 10 weeks left in the regular season to turn it around, which is great. This is how I would split up the 10 weeks.

Weeks 1,2,3: Looking for effort performances and the breakthrough. Give your players room to get this right as you are building the platform here. Look to win one from three as a pass mark.

Weeks 4,5,6: Building on the breakthrough win and consolidating effort performances. Winning brings confidence, so look to win two from three as a pass mark.

Weeks 7,8,9,10: By now a pattern and habit should be in place that can be ramped up. Here, the team should be firing on all cylinders and the players have our groove back. A pass mark is two out of four, but you are looking for three or four victories.

That only leaves one question. Can Seibold do it?

We will find out over the next 10 weeks.

Shayne Duncan is a performance psychologist who has worked in several sports with a particular interest in rugby league.

The views in this article do not necessarily express the opinions of the NRL, ARL Commission, NRL clubs or state associations.


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This thread ought to be pinned - essential reading for anyone with an axe to grind, with an agenda, against any one player, or individuals in general, or the coach. All the Milf haters, the Boyd bashers (including me), the Seibold assassins...

As the article says quite clearly, nothing will change until the big picture of the psychology of the team's and the club's failure is addressed.
 
When he talks about players buying in, I said last week, and the week before, and the week ...yeh you know how it goes. I said that the team need to have a mantra and that needs to be 'OWN IT".

When Lexy said that SOME of the guys had gotten off social media I knew then that we were still fukced. We need ALL the guys to get off social media and OWN this situation. Everyone has to buy-in or it doesn't work I'm afraid. Not until they have put the effort in and dug us out of this slump should they even think about returning to social media.
 
When he talks about players buying in, I said last week, and the week before, and the week ...yeh you know how it goes. I said that the team need to have a mantra and that needs to be 'OWN IT".

When Lexy said that SOME of the guys had gotten off social media I knew then that we were still fukced. We need ALL the guys to get off social media and OWN this situation. Everyone has to buy-in or it doesn't work I'm afraid. Not until they have put the effort in and dug us out of this slump should they even think about returning to social media.

Absolutely. It's just gotta be part of the plan
 
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Having said that, we had better hear of The Plan real quick or the rest of this season will turn out to be a zombie apocalypse, but one where the zombies lose
 
Interesting article. Two things spring to mind.
1. What would this guy have said in late 2018 when the mess that was going on about getting rid of benett was at its height? In other words would he had advised the club it was a good idea to go through with it?
2. What would he have made about Seibolds rant at the same time about how it was impacting on his family and that he was fed up with it all. What would he think about his ability to think clearly and remain calm under pressure?
Guess we'll never know but it would have been fascinating to find out.
 
This thread ought to be pinned - essential reading for anyone with an axe to grind, with an agenda, against any one player, or individuals in general, or the coach. All the Milf haters, the Boyd bashers (including me), the Seibold assassins...

As the article says quite clearly, nothing will change until the big picture of the psychology of the team's and the club's failure is addressed.
Well my other half is a clinical psychologist, so you might have to excuse me if I'm a little skeptical of meeting the Buddha on the road, so to speak. Like I said when I posted this in the other thread, his observations ring true, but I'm not sure his remedy will work. But, of course, it's worth a shot.

Another theory is there's a cancer within the squad. Maybe it's a single player. Maybe it's a faction of cynical players who suck the life out of the squad. Maybe it's that a few players are being paid more than their value. Maybe it's one or more players who don't respect the captain. Maybe the captain can't direct with authority. Maybe the coach's plan is too hard to implement. Maybe no-one can follow the coach's plan. Maybe there's a general disdain for the coach and his plan. Maybe the coach doesn't have a plan.

What's certain is there is no talk within the team. No one is directing attack or defence. No one is barking orders. The best you get is the dummy half doing that pointing thing before he bends over, which is no indication of anything.

My hunch is the coach is shot. There is no confidence in his vision. The other is Patty is out of his depth as captain, at least for now. Boyd and Milford don't want to be there. They're just turning up for their paychecks. And there is some sort of passive aggression going on.

The first thing I would do is make Payne Haas captain for the rest of the season. He's the only one who's led by example, for the last two years. If he doesn't have respect no one does. The time is now.

The second thing I would do is **** off Seibold, Boyd and Milford. Seibold, because he's been a proven failure. Boyd and Milford to show we don't tolerate mediocrity.
 
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Interesting article. Two things spring to mind.
1. What would this guy have said in late 2018 when the mess that was going on about getting rid of benett was at its height? In other words would he had advised the club it was a good idea to go through with it?
2. What would he have made about Seibolds rant at the same time about how it was impacting on his family and that he was fed up with it all. What would he think about his ability to think clearly and remain calm under pressure?
Guess we'll never know but it would have been fascinating to find out.

In regard to number 1, I doubt they would have listened anyway.
 
This thread ought to be pinned - essential reading for anyone with an axe to grind, with an agenda, against any one player, or individuals in general, or the coach. All the Milf haters, the Boyd bashers (including me), the Seibold assassins...

Seibold is essentially a rookie coach who walked into a cess pool without gum boots. He made mistakes, possibly hubris being one of them. he has now learned the hard way. The test of his mettle is what he does now, and that goes way beyond a roster change
Wanting a coach gone for a string of horrific performances isn't a problematic position in my book, especially when there's no end in sight and the man seems bereft of ideas.

The bolded bit is the key thing for mine. Has he learned? He's certainly been presented with a number of these games to learn from, but there's no evidence at this stage that he's even begun learning from them. Granted we don't get to see behind the curtain so we can only judge based on the words and game day performances offered up - those really aren't promising. Even our wins owed more to individual performances than a cohesive team effort. I don't have any faith he can turn things around, nor should I be accepting of sub-mediocrity.
 
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