MELTDOWN Wayne Bennett - Moves to Souths

[Foordy]

obviously people with better judgment then you think differently.

actually they don't which is why Bennett isn't getting his contract renewed ...

p.s. I always laugh at that line on a discussion forum

 

[Nashy]

Because Wayne Bennett has been very successful since his return, he has won us heaps of trop ... oh yeah that's right

but at least he has had us climbing that ladder each season getting closer to a premiership ... oops, wrong again

What? Many punters have us capable of a premiership next year. He put us in a GF in 2015. He's recruited well, and has found some nice juniors. Some of his decisions for the team might be questionable, but to say he hasn't done well for the Broncos in his time back is crazy talk.

 

[Morkel]

By the way, Bennett hasn’t taken the club backwards. Not in comparison to pre-Bennett. The high point was set by Bennett himself, so while in pure ladder position he’s gone backwards since 2015, that year wasn’t set by a predecessor that he has regressed from.

 

[pagey]

actually they don't which is why Bennett isn't getting his contract renewed ...

p.s. I always laugh at that line on a discussion forum

Um !! Maguire is playing him at 7 for New Zealand , that's who I'm referring to.

 

[Big Pete]

Wayne would have remained the coach if Paul White's meeting with Bellamy wasn't made public. Nobody could blame White for chasing after the best coach in the game but the fallout was ugly and it made Bennett's position at the club untenable. Ideally the meeting would never have come to light, Bennett would have signed on and retired at the end of that contract, say 2021.

The day was always going to come for Bennett to retire. Bennett was brought here to win a premiership and after four seasons he couldn't get the job done. It's a completely unfair assessment of what he's brought to the club, but that's the cut-throat mentality of the Rugby League business for you. It's a 'what have you done for me lately' industry and you can be Brian Smith 2010 one moment than Brian Smith 2011 the next. Or Daniel Anderson, or Ivan Cleary, or Anthony Griffin or any super-coach.

It's just a matter of having a goal in mind and picking the coach who will achieve that job. Want a premiership in the next 3 years? Go with Madge. Want to play an attractive brand of football and win fans and the media? Go with Seibold. Want to promote the club's values and go with somebody with a marketable resume? Go with Kev. They just have to make a decision and not for one second doubt themselves like they did with Henjak.

Everyone doggy piles on Henjak, but forgets how much pressure Cullen put him under. Bruno had so much faith in him, he signed up a bunch of assistants just to help him out.

 

[FaithinHook]

Wayne would have remained the coach if Paul White's meeting with Bellamy wasn't made public. Nobody could blame White for chasing after the best coach in the game but the fallout was ugly and it made Bennett's position at the club untenable. Ideally the meeting would never have come to light, Bennett would have signed on and retired at the end of that contract, say 2021.

The day was always going to come for Bennett to retire. Bennett was brought here to win a premiership and after four seasons he couldn't get the job done. It's a completely unfair assessment of what he's brought to the club, but that's the cut-throat mentality of the Rugby League business for you. It's a 'what have you done for me lately' industry and you can be Brian Smith 2010 one moment than Brian Smith 2011 the next. Or Daniel Anderson, or Ivan Cleary, or Anthony Griffin or any super-coach.

It's just a matter of having a goal in mind and picking the coach who will achieve that job. Want a premiership in the next 3 years? Go with Madge. Want to play an attractive brand of football and win fans and the media? Go with Seibold. Want to promote the club's values and go with somebody with a marketable resume? Go with Kev. They just have to make a decision and not for one second doubt themselves like they did with Henjak.

Everyone doggy piles on Henjak, but forgets how much pressure Cullen put him under. Bruno had so much faith in him, he signed up a bunch of assistants just to help him out.

Bloody brilliant summary Pete! Am interested in your belief that if the whole attempting to sign Bellamy saga didn't come to light Wayne would have had his contract extended. What leads you to think that exactly? I am more of the belief his 'failure' to lead us to another premiership in his 3 years back here played the biggest part in his cards being marked. Not that I consider it a failure mind you, things just haven't gone the way we had hoped for a variety of reasons really.

 

[Big Pete]

It stems from all the statements the board and Bennett were making before the Bellamy saga unfolded. Everything was hunky dory until Melbourne leaked the Bellamy meeting and everything came to a head. Before hand the media were trying their best to make up stories to sell newspapers, chasing after blatant red herrings until they finally got their success and made the bloke a bloody bunker.

I digress but the club wasn't going to turf Bennett out unless they could get an established coach. Unfortunately they learned some harsh lessons that are usually only learned in the mean streets of Albuquerque New Mexico - there's no such things as half measures.

 

[FaithinHook]

It stems from all the statements the board and Bennett were making before the Bellamy saga unfolded. Everything was hunky dory until Melbourne leaked the Bellamy meeting and everything came to a head. Before hand the media were trying their best to make up stories to sell newspapers, chasing after blatant red herrings until they finally got their success and made the bloke a bloody bunker.

I digress but the club wasn't going to turf Bennett out unless they could get an established coach. Unfortunately they learned some harsh lessons that are usually only learned in the mean streets of Albuquerque New Mexico - there's no such things as half measures.

Well if that is the case, it's kinda ironic in a way. I read a few reports (although no guarantee it is true) at the time that Wayne was in actual fact the source of the leak re: White chasing Bellamy. Apparently he had gotten wind of it somehow and his strategy was to put the heat back on the Broncos hierarchy. If that is indeed the way it played out, Bennett might have signed his own 'death warrant' so to speak by divulging White's Bellamy chase to the media. If had kept it to himself, the public/media may never have found out and Wayne would never have had his wish to coach here for a couple more years put in jeopardy. Who knows.

 

[Big Pete]

If the 2016 Emerging Origin camp is anything to go by, Melbourne have better form in these situations.

 

[FaithinHook]

If the 2016 Emerging Origin camp is anything to go by, Melbourne have better form in these situations.

May very well have been the Storm who were behind the leak mate. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest being the grubs that the club is as a whole.

 

[FaithinHook]

Are we all in agreeance boys, rightly or wrongly, and whether they are our preferred candidates or not, that it has essentially come down to a two horse race between Seibold and Kevvie?

Smart money still with Seibold, but there has been a concerted push by the media and former Broncos players (Webke, Lazo, Hodgo, Chris Johns etc) for Kev.

Who wins out and why?

 

[john1420]

Wayne would have remained the coach if Paul White's meeting with Bellamy wasn't made public. Nobody could blame White for chasing after the best coach in the game but the fallout was ugly and it made Bennett's position at the club untenable. Ideally the meeting would never have come to light, Bennett would have signed on and retired at the end of that contract, say 2021.

The day was always going to come for Bennett to retire. Bennett was brought here to win a premiership and after four seasons he couldn't get the job done. It's a completely unfair assessment of what he's brought to the club, but that's the cut-throat mentality of the Rugby League business for you. It's a 'what have you done for me lately' industry and you can be Brian Smith 2010 one moment than Brian Smith 2011 the next. Or Daniel Anderson, or Ivan Cleary, or Anthony Griffin or any super-coach.

It's just a matter of having a goal in mind and picking the coach who will achieve that job. Want a premiership in the next 3 years? Go with Madge. Want to play an attractive brand of football and win fans and the media? Go with Seibold. Want to promote the club's values and go with somebody with a marketable resume? Go with Kev. They just have to make a decision and not for one second doubt themselves like they did with Henjak.

Everyone doggy piles on Henjak, but forgets how much pressure Cullen put him under. Bruno had so much faith in him, he signed up a bunch of assistants just to help him out.

No, but I do blame him for thinking that cheating piece of crap is the best coach in the game

The best coach in the game, for mine, is the bloke with the best record amassed without cheating

Totally agree with that last paragraph ..... the man picked to be the coach of our great club, will be based on what the club's goal is

 

[Big Pete]

No, but I do blame him for thinking that cheating piece of crap is the best coach in the game

The best coach in the game, for mine, is the bloke with the best record amassed without cheating

All-time? Absolutely, but not this decade. Bellamy has proven himself and just has the edge. The only problem with the Bellamy acquisition is that Craig seems to be close to retirement himself. I'd be surprised if he's still coaching in 7 years.

 

[Nashy]

All-time? Absolutely, but not this decade. Bellamy has proven himself and just has the edge. The only problem with the Bellamy acquisition is that Craig seems to be close to retirement himself. I'd be surprised if he's still coaching in 7 years.

How do you think he's going to go without his stars?

Have you seen him on Fox? He comes across as one of the dumbest pricks in the sport.

 

[Unbreakable]

How do you think he's going to go without his stars?

Have you seen him on Fox? He comes across as one of the dumbest pricks in the sport.

Don't you dare disrespect Bellamy's Bunker, that's one of my highlights of the 2018 season, never failed to give me a good laugh.

"Let's cross now to Craig Bellamy live from Bellamy's Bunker! What did you think about the Broncos first half performance Craig, and where can they look to improve in the 2nd half?"

"Well ah, yeah, not bad, ahhh, they will probably want to improve their completion rate a bit, ahh, yeah, back to you"

"... Thanks Craig"

 

[Big Pete]

How do you think he's going to go without his stars?

Have you seen him on Fox? He comes across as one of the dumbest pricks in the sport.

If the past is anything to go by, he'll be fine.

Melbourne have still been one of the top teams despite losing Slater, Inglis and Cronk. So far they're shaping as one of the top teams in 2019 and they already have the NZ test hooker waiting in the wings to replace Cameron.

 

[Cult]

If the past is anything to go by, he'll be fine.

Melbourne have still been one of the top teams despite losing Slater, Inglis and Cronk. So far they're shaping as one of the top teams in 2019 and they already have the NZ test hooker waiting in the wings to replace Cameron.

To be fair, we have the NZ Halfback and that doesn't mean a lot. Just means there's a lack of depth in the NZ ranks

 

[Big Pete]

To be fair, we have the NZ Halfback and that doesn't mean a lot. Just means there's a lack of depth in the NZ ranks

Fair, but Smith was one of the best on-field and easily out-played his opposite.

Point being, he isn't an unproven rookie who a friend of a friend happens to rate highly and he's the answer to all their problems. We know what he's capable of and he's one of the best dummy halves coming through.