What is happening at the Broncos?

[Wolfie]

I was being sarcastic about you being witty.......

Thanks for the offer but no thanks. I'm just glad you are paying such close attention to what I post, even when replying to another user (unless you are using multiple usernames).

Anyway, this ******* aside, what the hell is going on? I thought this thread needed to be resurrected.

IMO the salary cap is completely out of whack. Boyd and obviously Bird are on massive overs. In their defence, a few years ago when Boyd was at his best he would have been worth what he is on. Much like Milf, Bird may be an excellent running 5/8 with a good playmaker at half but better than Milf? I haven't seen any evidence that would be the case. I remember the GF a few years ago, Bird played very well in the centres but even then, he just ran hard, didn't make any mistakes but a lot of meters. With Holmes and Barba at his best, that was enough. Milf isn't much good without a good game-manager, ball player partnering him in the halves.

Roberts and Oates are obviously better than average. The rest average at best but not on big money so not a long-term problem (as Bird and Boyd are going to be in regard to the salary cap). Ditto for the forwards. Not the best pack in the competition but far from the worst. Sims won't be re-signed, Glenn probably won't be next year and let's wait and see how Gillett goes when he comes back. Depending on who is coming through the ranks, Macca and McGuire had better improve if they want to be re-signed.

It must completely piss several players off at how much more money Bird is on given what they bring and what he brings to the team. I guess this is one of the main reasons so many are intent on "testing their value on the market" rather than just re-signing as what used to happen.

You should have ran this by me before posting. Its not very good.

 

[Kimlo]

When one runs a company, the pressure and biggest responsibility starts at the top and then flows down. At what point do the powers that be look at the performance of Bennett and simply say "it's time"? Hell I am still upset at the way he managed the last 20 minutes of the GF in 2015 but that's a different story.

Today's story is all about signs of being feeble and signs of placating individuals as opposed to the greater good. The greater good being the team. You start at the assigning of captain. In no universe is Boyd deserving of captain. He is no leader and plays way more poor games than good games. For every inspirational moment, there are a multitude of moments that are not inspirational.

My next gripe is the placating of Bird. Let's try him at this position, followed by another and so on and so on. The end result is poor performances from all positions and some pretty upset teammates who have either been shown the bench or been moved from their customary position. This talk of playing in lock is absurd. On what planet would you put him their ahead of TPJ? I really don't want to hear anymore excuses. Here is an idea...get fit, I mean really fit to show you are dedicated to your job. Play a few convincing games at the lower and level and then and only then will you earn a bench spot. Do you think the defence was better for not having Opacaic in yesterday? Of course not.

It is easy to blame things on injury but every side must work with injuries. The bottom line is that Bennett has done a shocking job of coaching this side. This year has been his worst. There is zero structure offensively. At what point does the Bronco brass give Wayne the tap and say enough is enough? Honestly, I could care less if we don't make the eight but develop the future and stop making the same mistakes over and over again. To put Nikorima in at 7 does not work. For goodness sake, put an actual halfback in the halfback position and let them develop. To make the same mistakes over and over isn't only insane, it's actually a choice. It's time to replace the feeble coach and the feeble coaches "Son" who happens to be captain. Loyalty for the sake of loyalty wont win in this case.

Except you don't get to the top of prestigious organisations by being reactionary and sacking a great coach for poor short term performances.
Do you seriously think sacking Bennett would improve us in the immediate term and the years ahead? If so, who do you suggest we replace him with?
We're missing our two best forwards in Gillett and McGuire. McGuire should be back soon, and with Hass having two games in a row where we've lost a whole bench forward due to him being injured straight away... Well that hasn't helped.

If you want to sack Bennett you do it at the end of the season after reviewing the season as a whole, not after one loss.

 

[Maroon4life]

Except you don't get to the top of prestigious organisations by being reactionary and sacking a great coach for poor short term performances.
Do you seriously think sacking Bennett would improve us in the immediate term and the years ahead? If so, who do you suggest we replace him with?
We're missing our two best forwards in Gillett and McGuire. McGuire should be back soon, and with Hass having two games in a row where we've lost a whole bench forward due to him being injured straight away... Well that hasn't helped.

If you want to sack Bennett you do it at the end of the season after reviewing the season as a whole, not after one loss.

I agree with you, also think the undertone of animal eaters post was that he wants the brass to hold Bennett accountable for his decisions at seasons end.

Bennett deserves the entire season so we can see what his vision was for the team but he should also be ready to accept the fate that a lot of other coaches would get given the results. If this was anyone other than Bennett the knives would be out by all and sundry, they’d want blood.

We started the season looking clueless and 9 rounds later we haven’t improved at all, we’re still chopping and changing key roles, Bennett’s throwing a handful of darts and hoping something hits each round.

 

[animal eater]

Except you don't get to the top of prestigious organisations by being reactionary and sacking a great coach for poor short term performances.
Do you seriously think sacking Bennett would improve us in the immediate term and the years ahead? If so, who do you suggest we replace him with?
We're missing our two best forwards in Gillett and McGuire. McGuire should be back soon, and with Hass having two games in a row where we've lost a whole bench forward due to him being injured straight away... Well that hasn't helped.

If you want to sack Bennett you do it at the end of the season after reviewing the season as a whole, not after one loss.

I should of been more specific. I don't think you can sack him till the end of the year but the end of the year and that's it. In the meantime, some accountability on his behalf FOR ONCE would be a welcome change. I can't remember the man ever saying I got it wrong. To me that indicates arrogance and a total lack of humility which never help.

Also, it's not about the one loss. The reality is The Broncos could very well in last place. The wins they have were just wins and often REALLY got the luck of the dice.

 

[Kimlo]

I agree with you, also think the undertone of animal eaters post was that he wants the brass to hold Bennett accountable for his decisions at seasons end.

Bennett deserves the entire season so we can see what his vision was for the team but he should also be ready to accept the fate that a lot of other coaches would get given the results. If this was anyone other than Bennett the knives would be out by all and sundry, they’d want blood.

We started the season looking clueless and 9 rounds later we haven’t improved at all, we’re still chopping and changing key roles, Bennett’s throwing a handful of darts and hoping something hits each round.

The team has been shit this year, no doubt, and that falls on Bennett, but it's still early. Bennett usually has his teams firing up at the results end of the year. As long as we make the 8, and injuries don't screw us like they have every year, I'd say we're a chance.

If we miss the 8 all together (which I doubt) then I'd be all for Bennett getting reviewed and possibly given the ass, but that's contingent on the next 3-4 months.

Let's say this coach wasn't Bennett, let's call him Darren.

Comes in 2015, we finish 2nd on the ladder, make the grand final, lose in the last few seconds.
2016 - We come 5th, make it to the second week of the finals (stupid trip penalty from Gillett arguably cost us progressing) and lose 26-20
2017 - We finish 3rd on the ladder, make it to the grand final qualifier, and get beaten by one of the most dominant teams in a season that we've seen in a long time.

If this was coach X and not Bennett, and I was reviewing performances based on that, I'd say he's a mighty good coach who has serious potential.

I'm more than happy to wait until the end of the season to see where we stand before I call for Bennett's head.

 

[Kimlo]

I should of been more specific. I don't think you can sack him till the end of the year but the end of the year and that's it. In the meantime, some accountability on his behalf FOR ONCE would be a welcome change. I can't remember the man ever saying I got it wrong. To me that indicates arrogance and a total lack of humility which never help.

Also, it's not about the one loss. The reality is The Broncos could very well in last place. The wins they have were just wins and often REALLY got the luck of the dice.

Okay that I agree with, ultimately we're a high profile club and we expect excellent performance, if the team isn't a hell of a lot better come the end of the season, I'm all for Bennett being questioned. I want Bennett as coach because I believe he is one of a few coaches in the game that can make us competitive at the business end of the season, if he fails to do that, I'm all for him being sacked, just like he would sack a player if they weren't delivering anymore. As long as he's given a fair chance to turn things around, I'm all for it. No one's position should be certain at the club.

 

[Reyter]

I agree with you, also think the undertone of animal eaters post was that he wants the brass to hold Bennett accountable for his decisions at seasons end.

Bennett deserves the entire season so we can see what his vision was for the team but he should also be ready to accept the fate that a lot of other coaches would get given the results. If this was anyone other than Bennett the knives would be out by all and sundry, they’d want blood.

We started the season looking clueless and 9 rounds later we haven’t improved at all, we’re still chopping and changing key roles, Bennett’s throwing a handful of darts and hoping something hits each round.

No question he was a great coach but maybe this is proof coaches can also stay in the business a year too long. I've been confused by what he is doing for a while but just thought "Well he knows what he is doing." Now I increasingly think he has just lost it.

Of course no thought he should be sacked mid-season but maybe next year it's time to go with McGuire (is that the correct spelling for Souffs old coach?) or a rookie coach. Of course unless there is a dramatic turn around. The Origin period won't affect us too much this year. Maybe can get on a roll and come good at the backend of the season.

 

[Kyall]

I don’t understand why Bennett can’t even consider moving Boyd for 1 game even. Every other player player in our current 13 has been moved around except him.

 

[Accept]

I don’t understand why Bennett can’t even consider moving Boyd for 1 game even. Every other player player in our current 13 has been moved around except him.

And who do you put in the FB position? It's not like there are any obvious candidates.

 

[PerthBrissy987]

And who do you put in the FB position? It's not like there are any obvious candidates.

Folau [emoji108]

 

[Kyall]

And who do you put in the FB position? It's not like there are any obvious candidates.

Niko, Milford, Bird, Issako, Kahu, Allan, could all be given a go.

 

[Wolfie]

I don’t understand why Bennett can’t even consider moving Boyd for 1 game even. Every other player player in our current 13 has been moved around except him.

Because despite his ordinary form, we still dont have anyone close to him. Allan is leaving, Kahu isnt fit and runs back about the same as Biyd. Bird again isnt playing any better. Issako is a bit of a liability in defence and under the high Ball ( although I'd give him the benefit of the doubt at fullback, he was solid in ISC there ). We simply wont move Milf from five eighth as we dont have a better player there. Nikorima is the only possibility, but I'm really not convinced defensively he would be up to it.

 

[BroncsFan]

Niko, Milford, Bird, Issako, Kahu, Allan, could all be given a go.

The way Bennett is going he'd give them all a go in the one game!!!

 

[the_next]

Because despite his ordinary form, we still dont have anyone close to him. Allan is leaving, Kahu isnt fit and runs back about the same as Biyd. Bird again isnt playing any better. Issako is a bit of a liability in defence and under the high Ball ( although I'd give him the benefit of the doubt at fullback, he was solid in ISC there ). We simply wont move Milf from five eighth as we dont have a better player there. Nikorima is the only possibility, but I'm really not convinced defensively he would be up to it.

On Darius current form, I would happily put Isaako at FB. Yes he is shaky under the high ball, but he runs with intent and enthusiasm, something I think Darius is lacking in spades at the moment. For mine, Darius is way too comfortable in his position, and knows that whilst Wayne is running the show he can do no wrong at FB. Its really starting to wear thin on me though, he is so out of form and not captain material at all.
NSW will find him out extremely quickly is he makes Origin, that also scares me..

 

[Wolfie]

On Darius current form, I would happily put Isaako at FB. Yes he is shaky under the high ball, but he runs with intent and enthusiasm, something I think Darius is lacking in spades at the moment. For mine, Darius is way too comfortable in his position, and knows that whilst Wayne is running the show he can do no wrong at FB. Its really starting to wear thin on me though, he is so out of form and not captain material at all.
NSW will find him out extremely quickly is he makes Origin, that also scares me..

I think he will play a bit more freely for QLD. He has others to take the burden off him there, he doesn't at Brisbane.

 

[Splinter]

No question he was a great coach but maybe this is proof coaches can also stay in the business a year too long. I've been confused by what he is doing for a while but just thought "Well he knows what he is doing." Now I increasingly think he has just lost it.

Of course no thought he should be sacked mid-season but maybe next year it's time to go with McGuire (is that the correct spelling for Souffs old coach?) or a rookie coach. Of course unless there is a dramatic turn around. The Origin period won't affect us too much this year. Maybe can get on a roll and come good at the backend of the season.

He will be fine as soon as he starts thinking with his big head again

 

[badyon]

I'll tell you what's happening at the Broncos, chicken littles.

Missing 4 internationals and an origin player...playing against in form pre season favourites....

AND KICKING FUCKN ARSE

Go you good things.

 

[Number6]

I think he will play a bit more freely for QLD. He has others to take the burden off him there, he doesn't at Brisbane.

Not being captain wont cure his hamstrings... being on the wing might hide things a little bit hard to hide in origin.