Where have the true centres gone?

[ningnangnong]

It wasn't a huge improvement by Michaels, it was a slight improvement.

He still has major issues with his defence and he managed to bomb one or two tries with a poor pass or running the wrong line.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Stop with the Vendetta against Michaels can you seriously not see how much better he has been over the last 2 weeks... Also he is returning after a Knee reconstruction remember how long it took Lockyer to find form again..

 

[ningnangnong]

Stop with the Vendetta against Michaels can you seriously not see how much better he has been over the last 2 weeks... Also he is returning after a Knee reconstruction remember how long it took Lockyer to find form again..

Are you taking the piss?

If that was a 'huge' improvement, then i really do despair. Michaels still has a long way to go before he reaches any type of form worthy of a regular first grade spot.

His ability to read the play is horrendous - defensively and attacking wise.

When defending he continually misjudges the situation. I've lost count of the number of times he rushes in to shut down a play only for the opposition to throw a quick pass or easily step him. He can't tackle very well either. Everyone always seems to run over the top of him.

When we're attacking, he only seems to know how to run one line. I don't know if it's a communication problem with the halves or what, but he rarely understands what the set play is going to be.

On a more positive note, it looks like he's stopped running sideways and actually tried to throw some passes on Friday night even if they were a bit wayward.

It's laughable that you compared him to Lockyer, but then again i'm sure you're taking the piss.

Michaels has improved over the last two games, no doubt about that. He still has a long way to go though which is why i'm not jumping the gun. Two decent performances doesn't make up for half a season of mediocrity.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I am deadly serious... I can't see why it is so laughable to compare Michaels injury with Lockyers??? Lockyer didn;t come good until after Origin last season. Michaels still has heaps of improvement to go but he made some huge steps on Friday night why can't you admit that..

 

[ningnangnong]

I am deadly serious... I can't see why it is so laughable to compare Michaels injury with Lockyers??? Lockyer didn;t come good until after Origin last season. Michaels still has heaps of improvement to go but he made some huge steps on Friday night why can't you admit that..

Huge steps? [icon_lol1.

Is that because he made less mistakes then he normally does?

Sorry, but in my eye's he did not make huge steps. He slightly improved, it was still an average performance.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I am deadly serious... I can't see why it is so laughable to compare Michaels injury with Lockyers??? Lockyer didn;t come good until after Origin last season. Michaels still has heaps of improvement to go but he made some huge steps on Friday night why can't you admit that..

Huge steps? [icon_lol1.

Is that because he made less mistakes then he normally does?

Sorry, but in my eye's he did not make huge steps. He slightly improved, it was still an average performance.

LOL watch the game at all.. Obviously due to you biased opinions against Michaels you are never going to give him credit at all for his improvement...

 

[ningnangnong]

I am deadly serious... I can't see why it is so laughable to compare Michaels injury with Lockyers??? Lockyer didn;t come good until after Origin last season. Michaels still has heaps of improvement to go but he made some huge steps on Friday night why can't you admit that..

Huge steps? [icon_lol1.

Is that because he made less mistakes then he normally does?

Sorry, but in my eye's he did not make huge steps. He slightly improved, it was still an average performance.

LOL watch the game at all

I could also ask you the same question.

Please highlight for me where Michaels made huge improvements in his game on Friday?

Maybe i'm biased against Michaels, but i think even the most ardent Michaels fans would admit that he didn't take any huge steps. I acknowledged that he improved slightly, anything more would be an exaggeration.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I am not even a Michaels fan at all I think he should be on the wing or not in the side but he did show a massive improvement compared to early on in the season. Granted he has a weakness in defence and that needs to improve but in attack he certainly has improved.

 

[Hamm.0]

I just LOLZED reading people actually consider Hodges on par with Renouf!! [icon_lol1. [icon_lol1. And also someone who tried to compare Hodges to Inglis.

Seriously, take the anti-Storm glasses off! Inglis is the best centre in the world, as easily as Falou is in the top 2 best wingers in the world (Hayne is unbelievable atm).

1. Meninga-Miles (only because I personally prefer the barge-tough centre over the silky centre, however if you want sheer pace and silk hands swap Renouf with these two immortals)
2. Renouf
3. Inglis
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*
Daylight
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The rest of the true great centres. Steve Rogers, Laurie Daley, probably even Mick O'Connor;

Then Hodges, etc

You guys do know what history is right? You can even, you know, look up footage for yourselves rather than relying on believing the stuff you see (and hopefully not; the stuff you hear on channel 9) is the "greatest ever".

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

I just LOLZED reading people actually consider Hodges on par with Renouf!! [icon_lol1. [icon_lol1. And also someone who tried to compare Hodges to Inglis.

Seriously, take the anti-Storm glasses off! Inglis is the best centre in the world, as easily as Falou is in the top 2 best wingers in the world (Hayne is unbelievable atm).

1. Meninga-Miles (only because I personally prefer the barge-tough centre over the silky centre, however if you want sheer pace and silk hands swap Renouf with these two immortals)
2. Renouf
3. Inglis
*
*
Daylight
*
*
The rest of the true great centres. Steve Rogers, Laurie Daley, probably even Mick O'Connor;

Then Hodges, etc

You guys do know what history is right? You can even, you know, look up footage for yourselves rather than relying on believing the stuff you see (and hopefully not; the stuff you hear on channel 9) is the "greatest ever".

Finally Hammo! i was waiting for some backup. Dude, apparently hodges was the best player ever in game 1 of origin in 2006 so he is as good as inglis now. duh :roll: [icon_lol1. [icon_lol1.

 

[Mister Wright]

I think, rather than trying to decide who is better you should analyse each player's strength.

I'd say Inglis is probably the better finisher, but Hodges probably just tips Inglis on creating opportunities. The fend is hands down Inglis and Hodges' right foot step is a hands down too. Not much between them in defense. Hodges is probably better in the sliding defense situation, whereas Inglis is probably better one-on-one.

Both are gun players. And us QLD fans should be rejoicing that we get to see these two play together for many years to come.

 

[QUEENSLANDER]

Point taken. Altho i think inglis creates more than hodges. Hodges uses his step at a stand still most of the time, so the defence might miss him but have time to get him since hes not yet running whereas inglis creates with his fend and usually results in a try to the winger

 

[Mister Wright]

Point taken. Altho i think inglis creates more than hodges. Hodges uses his step at a stand still most of the time, so the defence might miss him but have time to get him since hes not yet running whereas inglis creates with his fend and usually results in a try to the winger

Perhaps...admittedly, I haven't seen a lot of Inglis play, however Hodges has more than the step and stand still, he has a nice pass, and knows when to pass or when to run the ball (unlike Micheals). If Inglis isn't fending Hodges is probably harder to tackle also (maybe).

 

[Bucking Beads]

So we have two Storm fan telling Broncos fans they Inglis is better than Hodges.. I personally think Hodges is a better club footballer and Inglis the better rep footballer. I am not sure who was comparing Hodges to Renouf or other great centres from years gone by but obviously those people are kidding themself...

 

[Jeba]

Finally Hammo! i was waiting for some backup. Dude, apparently hodges was the best player ever in game 1 of origin in 2006 so he is as good as inglis now. duh :roll: [icon_lol1. [icon_lol1.

Mate seriously, come on. Can't you have a debate without belittling those who are arguing against you by totally twisting their words into points they didn't even make? I bought up Hodges's performance in that game because I thought it was unfair that you said the he has never ever dominated at Origin level, and was not using that point as proof that Hodges is better than Inglis. You then came back and said Inglis scored 2 tries in that game so must've been more dominant than Hodges, so I simply pointed out that just because you scored 2 tries in a game doesn't necessarily mean you were more dominant than another player (eg Boyd and Inglis in Origin 2, 2008).

Like I said, argue all you like about which is the better player, but do it in good spirit and without belittling those whose opinion differs to yours. The only arguments I was making were as backup for Hodges's performances at Origin level after you said he has never had an outstanding game. Even I am the first to admit that over the last few years, Inglis's Origin performances as a whole have been better that those of Hodges.

Then I simply finished by saying that IMO when Hodges is at the top of his game ala 2006, he is every bit as good and as influencial as Inglis.

 

[Hamm.0]

So we have two Storm fan telling Broncos fans they Inglis is better than Hodges.. I personally think Hodges is a better club footballer and Inglis the better rep footballer. I am not sure who was comparing Hodges to Renouf or other great centres from years gone by but obviously those people are kidding themself...

How long have you been supporting the Broncos for? I have been since 1987, the day they were announced. Pretty sure QUEENSLANDER is a Bronco fan as well. Unsure who are the Storm fans you speak of?

If you haven't watched many Storm games this season or last (which I doubt you have because you don't come across as a RL fan, moreso a Bronco fan), Inglis is head and shoulders above ANY other centre in the game. Don't believe me? Go to some other clubs's forums or even (*shudder*) LeagueUnlimited and ask around, do some polls.

Inglis
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daylight
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NRL

TBH; if I was picking the Kangaroos right now it'd be Inglis/Jennings.

 

[Jeba]

But that's not the argument Hammo. I don't think anyone here is disputing the fact that at the moment Inglis is the form centre of the competition. We are simply making the point that when Hodges is at peak form like in 06-07 he is just as good as Inglis.

 

[Hamm.0]

I understand that and still think you are nuts. Inglis is a freak.

He manages to single handedly destroy teams week in, week out and thenmanages to step it up another gear for Rep footy (Origin & International).

If Inglis played for NSW, IMO we wouldn't have won 4 series. He is incredible and IMO, not since Meninga/Miles/Renouf has there been such a good centre in RL.

Hodges has great potential and is an awesome player when he's on, but he isn't at Inglis' level.

IMO.