Broncos Player Movements and Rumours 2014

[Ari Gold]

Nearly all NRL coaches are under the pump. Cartwright, Stewart, green , Flanagan/ sharp, Price, Potter , Cleary, Anderson, Arthur . It could be argued that all of these guys could be gone 2015. So to single out griffin is anti brisbane.

That's really not the way to look at it. Who gives a shit if the Titans or Tigers struggle to lure names like Daly Cherry-Evans, they are small, mediocre clubs that nobody really gives a shit about, so if their coach isn't an attractive proposition frankly, who cares?

We are a much bigger club, and we should want to be on the field as well, not just off it. And I'm very much inclined to agree that Griffin's presence is becoming a major hindrance to our ambitions of succeeding on it.

 

[broncos4life]

It is a Brisbane Paper and it is the truth so what is the issue? Why would the Courier Mail writers be writing about coaches from Sydney?

That's fair enough and I didn't think about it that. Maybe I'm just sick of guys like Garry rehashing shit we already know

 

[Bucking Beads]

That's fair enough and I didn't think about it that. Maybe I'm just sick of guys like Garry rehashing **** we already know

I don't get your issue with Garry. He certainly isn't the Rothfield you make him out to be.

 

[broncos4life]

I don't get your issue with Garry. He certainly isn't the Rothfield you make him out to be.

It's never claimed him to be rothfield, he just seems to love to put the boot in. I am probably completely wrong and am taking him the wrong way, just can't remember an article of his that is complimentary towards the broncos

 

[Ari Gold]

It's never claimed him to be rothfield, he just seems to love to put the boot in. I am probably completely wrong and am taking him the wrong way, just can't remember an article of his that is complimentary towards the broncos

You should cherish the hate articles. They are a sign of success. You don't see hate articles about the Cowboys or Titans because nobody is jealous of their position.

If anything, you should hope they keep coming. Last thing you want is for the Broncos to be held in the same esteem as the Tits or Cows.

 

[Porthoz]

Who is the last superstar playmaker, that has been successfully lured away from his club, and has not done so due to family reasons?

Until proof of the contrary, the only coach who has caused the Broncos to lose on a superstar (Inglis), was Henjak.
If Griffin goes, it has to be because he is not doing his job and the team isn't performing, not because some anonymous player agent says uncertainty over who the Broncos coach will be next season, is stopping them from considering the club.

Anyone actually believing that Thurston, DCE, Cronk, Smith, Johnson or any other genuine superstar player will move to a different club without circumstances like salary cap / family helping, have rocks in their heads.

Manly would be total fools to let DCE escape, especially after he made clear that getting the captaincy at the club, would go a long way to make him stay. The Warriors were unhappy with SJ for a while, but recognise they have a gem in the kid, and are not about to let him go. This isn't soccer, where clubs like ManUtd or Barcelona can wave millions and attract whomever they want to their clubs. We have a salary cap to contend with, and any player who isn't unhappy at their club, will not move for a meager increase in wages...

Splinter said it well. Under the current system, you can take advantage of the Barba/Milford situations, but you must ensure you identify the stars of the future in time, nurture them through your system, and make sure you hold on to them when the vultures start circling.

If Milford really turns into the player we all hope and expect, we must be willing to lose other players to hold on to him, just like Manly will probably do to retain DCE. Simple as that!

 

[Broncoman]

Club has struggled to sign good players? just because we don't look likely to sign either Smith or DCE doesn't mean we haven't been recruiting good players. Barba was player of the year last year, we managed to sign Milford one of the best young players in the game, Kennedy is in the emerging Maroons and was close to selection last year I believe, Vidot does have plenty of potential and showed glimpses of what he can do at the Raiders and Stewart Mills might be a good pickup if we use him properly. The recruitment has been good and just because Smith and DCE aren't likely to come doesn't change that.

We are far from being a wooden spoon club as well anyway.

 

[Russell Coight]

Club has struggled to sign good players? just because we don't look likely to sign either Smith or DCE doesn't mean we haven't been recruiting good players. Barba was player of the year last year, we managed to sign Milford one of the best young players in the game, Kennedy is in the emerging Maroons and was close to selection last year I believe, Vidot does have plenty of potential and showed glimpses of what he can do at the Raiders and Stewart Mills might be a good pickup if we use him properly. The recruitment has been good and just because Smith and DCE aren't likely to come doesn't change that.

We are far from being a wooden spoon club as well anyway.

Doesn't change the fact we have an average hooker, and no real playmakers. Even though I'm happy with the recruitment of the mentioned players, i think we have definitely lacked getting the right players.

 

[Ari Gold]

Who is the last superstar playmaker, that has been successfully lured away from his club, and has not done so due to family reasons?

Until proof of the contrary, the only coach who has caused the Broncos to lose on a superstar (Inglis), was Henjak.
If Griffin goes, it has to be because he is not doing his job and the team isn't performing, not because some anonymous player agent says uncertainty over who the Broncos coach will be next season, is stopping them from considering the club.

Anyone actually believing that Thurston, DCE, Cronk, Smith, Johnson or any other genuine superstar player will move to a different club without circumstances like salary cap / family helping, have rocks in their heads.

Manly would be total fools to let DCE escape, especially after he made clear that getting the captaincy at the club, would go a long way to make him stay. The Warriors were unhappy with SJ for a while, but recognise they have a gem in the kid, and are not about to let him go. This isn't soccer, where clubs like ManUtd or Barcelona can wave millions and attract whomever they want to their clubs. We have a salary cap to contend with, and any player who isn't unhappy at their club, will not move for a meager increase in wages...

Splinter said it well. Under the current system, you can take advantage of the Barba/Milford situations, but you must ensure you identify the stars of the future in time, nurture them through your system, and make sure you hold on to them when the vultures start circling.

If Milford really turns into the player we all hope and expect, we must be willing to lose other players to hold on to him, just like Manly will probably do to retain DCE. Simple as that!

I agree 100% about the signing of superstars. However, what you said is exactly why Griffin is, IMO, such a problem. I think his record with our young players is mediocre at best.

Gillett -- Started off great, but has arguably become inconsistent since and has yet to improve on his ROTY form. In no way would I say 2013 was his best season.

Glenn -- Superb 2012 campaign, identified as future captain of the club and made our vice captain. One year later and he has just had a sub-par 2013 and was overlooked for captaincy after it became available. In no way would I say 2013 was his best season.

Hala -- Has never really lived up to his potential. Not going to say this is Griffin's fault, some players just don't live up to the hype. But it's important to note because he's not the first youngster under Griffin to have that tag.

Hoffman -- Probably an exception in this list as I feel 2013 was his best season for us. However he still seems to think of himself as a fullback and is possibly leaving at the end of the contract?

Hunt -- Was a great prospect. Toyota Cup player of the year, future half etc. So Griffin, in all his wisdom, had him spend 2 years learning his trade as a playmaker by playing him off the bench as a reserve hooker. If Hunt comes good, it is surely in spite of Griffin and not because of him.

McCullough -- Hasn't really made any improvements since his first 2 seasons. If anything, I think he regressed in 2013 from 2012. Still has those bad plays in him despite over 100 games and Griffin having 2 full years to coach it out of him. In no way would I say 2013 was his best season.

McGuire -- IMO he is easily our best developed young player, who has consistently built upon each previous season and will soon be a key piece to our pack, if not already. Probably the only player on this list Griffin gets a high mark for.

Norman -- Consensus is he sucks, and for the most part he did suck for us. But is that Norman's fault or Griffin's. Now that he is under Stuart we'll get to see which way for sure, but Lockyer had big wraps on him and so did some others. Now, like I said, they may not be deserved, but chalk this down to another promising young player Griffin didn't get the best out of. Maybe, like Hala, it's just not to be with Norman, but I'm beginning to sense a trend here.

Oates -- Had a great 2013, but that was his rookie year. Let's hope unlike Gillett he goes from strength to strength, but it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't even make our 17.

Now not all young players come good, but if you consider where we were at the end of 2011, I think we should be disappointed by how little our youngsters have improved since then.

 

[Broncoman]

Doesn't change the fact we have an average hooker, and no real playmakers. Even though I'm happy with the recruitment of the mentioned players, i think we have definitely lacked getting the right players.

Part of our recruitment drive included the singings of Smith and DCE so we did attempt to sign them and improve the team but they are likely to stay put and it isn't to hard to see why. We just have to go with what we've got for this year and in 2015 Milford comes and improves the squad as intended.

 

[noisetheory]

honestly why would griffins uncertain future stop a player coming to us. thats a joke. either he succeeds and things are good or he doesnt and we get a better coach.

just about every coach in the league is half a season of poor performances away from getting the axe.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Certainly agree that it is hard to get a genuine star to leave their current club. We have missed the boat with so many stars although the junior players we have signed have often been very highly rated. Maybe our development has been off?

 

[broncos4life]

honestly why would griffins uncertain future stop a player coming to us. thats a joke. either he succeeds and things are good or he doesnt and we get a better coach.

just about every coach in the league is half a season of poor performances away from getting the axe.

These are exactly my thoughts, which is why I feel articles claiming this with 'anonymous player managers' comments are just bullshit

 

[broncos4life]

Certainly agree that it is hard to get a genuine star to leave their current club. We have missed the boat with so many stars although the junior players we have signed have often been very highly rated. Maybe our development has been off?

I think that's very true

 

[Porthoz]

Ari, your post deserves a proper answer... I'll get back to it later!

 

[Manbush]

honestly why would griffins uncertain future stop a player coming to us. thats a joke. either he succeeds and things are good or he doesnt and we get a better coach.

Who's to say it will be a better coach though, you sacked Henjak and signed Hook now talk of Walters who didn't do much with his first coaching gig at Catalans, all 3 look more like sideway movements rather than improvements.

 

[Financeguy]

Who's to say it will be a better coach though, you sacked Henjak and signed Hook now talk of Walters who didn't do much with his first coaching gig at Catalans, all 3 look more like sideway movements rather than improvements.

Very true, if a better coach could be guaranteed we would probably have one already. In some ways Henjack's short term as coach is the best thing in Griffins favour of being given every chance to succeed.

The first 6 or so rounds of this season should show how much the players want Griffin as their long term coach, his fate is very much in their hands.

 

[Socnorb]

How is it singling us out? Broncos have a very proud history and are coming off their worst season ever, thats fact so obviously we will get more paper time. Not to mention the rumours about players not wanting to come here due to coaching unrest, this whole anti-brisbane anti-queensland conspiracy is nonsense.

Hey bud . You living in NSW?