[Round 22, 2021] Broncos vs Roosters

Kaz said:
I want Kevvie to rip the refs a new one.

It's about time we take a stand on the standard of refs.

Sick of Robbo etc bleating about how bad they are treated & then next game, refs favour them.
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As much as I get this sentiment many have shared I think Kev is doing the right thing at the moment by not addressing it. His team is still improving and you want to avoid anything that shifts the responsibility away from himself and the players. They need to own the fact they’re 2nd last and work their way out of it. Then they can start addressing the reffing
 
I bleed Maroon said:
I mean how can you even hope to turn the mentality of a team around to a winning culture when you have to cop setbacks like that shit?? No wonder the top of the comp is the same 4-5 fucking teams every single year.
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Seriously? What a piss weak way to look at it. You can't change a team culture due to 1 result?
Organix said:
It would be childish if it were for childish reasons. However, when there are legitimate reasons (many of which have been explained in other posts), the least of those being the NRL being supported heavily by a betting agency AND being run by a former bookmaker, it is hardly childish to question the integrity of a corporation when you notice it.

Conspiracies DO exist and be they large or small, there are often legitimate reasons to discuss them. In this case, the stakes are not so high, but it is still a valid talking point for fans.

If you don't enjoy seeing it, then just ignore it. Calling people childish for discussing things that concern them is not productive. I think it is quite possible to continue other conversations in this thread while those who wish to, indulge themselves in their conspiracies. There is noone going to die due to this one.
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It is childish reasons. off the top of my head I can't remember any seriously bad game affecting ref decisions that have cost the Broncos any games this season. To say it's a conspiracy and the game is out to get the Broncos is childish.

And if you don't enjoy seeing me call someone childish, scroll on. Complaining about be calling someone childish isn't productive.
 
Again Riki made a few crucial missed tackles in the middle.
Kennedy seems to have gone off the boil too after playing solidly for the majority of this season.
 
Surprised with the performance. The good defensive efforts continued despite the backline re-shuffle which I think shows the improved defence isn’t just a few players but an attitude and systems improvement. Coates did still come off his wing all night but they were able to cover him.

Bench usage was pretty good I thought, though Flegler probably played a little too long and I’m not convinced Riki should be playing 80 minutes yet. His defence drops off pretty bad in the back end of games, and Robati could probably give him a break.

Mead was far improved compared to his last stint in the centre’s and I think he and Oates the best wingers at the club at the moment (for better or worse).

Cobbo and Coates can be fairly proud of their defensive efforts tonight considering how inexperienced they both are, however both really struggled to make any metres or produce any opportunities other than the Coates bat back to Riki.
Cobbo looked a little underdeveloped physically at centre and put in a good but unimpactful performance.

Overall I was happy Isaako wasn’t there during the close game, as that is just the type of situation where he starts to fall apart. Kennedy took that role on nicely though with his unforced error that would ultimately cost us the game.

Overall a good effort against a very under strengthed Roosters. Disappointing just how easy it is for this team to lose games.

I even said out loud when Kelly earned that give-me 2 points in front of the posts - “broncos will botch this win”
 
Foordy said:
The NRL is the most corrupt sport in world history ... you can not use a captain challenge for a high shot, unless of course the ref want you to lose, then he temporarily changes the rules
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They weren`t challenging the high shot ...

FFS some of you guys need to go to specs savers .
 
BooKhaki said:
Seriously? What a piss weak way to look at it. You can't change a team culture due to 1 result?

It is childish reasons. off the top of my head I can't remember any seriously bad game affecting ref decisions that have cost the Broncos any games this season. To say it's a conspiracy and the game is out to get the Broncos is childish.

And if you don't enjoy seeing me call someone childish, scroll on. Complaining about be calling someone childish isn't productive.
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Calling people out for name calling certainly is productive. It fosters a culture of respect and communication.

In response to your assertion that you can't remember any games that have been affected off the top of your head, I will point out that this game was actually able to become so close due to a lack of a string of dubious 6-again calls early at the start of the game. I would advise that you review games in which this occurred and their scores/results when compared to games like this one, where it did not occur. Almost certainly, when the Broncos were the "offenders" of multiple 6-agains early (at the discretion of the ref, mind you), they were thoroughly beaten.
 
The Broncos need to do a Roosters here and send the media a laundry list of stills of Roosters contact with Bronco heads during that entire match. I guarantee there was at least half a dozen worse than the one that 'earned' that final penalty. It won't change the result this game but it just might put a bit of pressure on the officials to give us a fair suck of the sav.

The other screamer for me was since when is the 'advantage' played by Cobbo running 20m and getting bundled into touch? Manly can get 5 tackles, 60m and an attacking kick away before coming back for their 'advantage' - so where was ours?

That and our 15m 10 metres compared to the Roosters' 7m or 8m. At this point it's just blatant.

Why is it that we cannot expect consistency? This game purports to be professional, yet they cannot even get the basics of the game right.
 
Big Del said:
They weren`t challenging the high shot ...

FFS some of you guys need to go to specs savers .
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When Tedesco is pointing and talking to Klein you can clearly hear him say "high shot on Sitili, high shot on Sitili." Then when Klein sends it up he says "we're looking for a high tackle ok, Captain's Challenge, on Sitili".
 
porouian said:
When Tedesco is pointing and talking to Klein you can clearly hear him say "high shot on Sitili, high shot on Sitili." Then when Klein sends it up he says "we're looking for a high tackle ok, Captain's Challenge, on Sitili".
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And when the bunker confirmed the drop ball and moved on Klein told them to go back and check the contact by Flegler again
 
LittleDavey said:
The Broncos need to do a Roosters here and send the media a laundry list of stills of Roosters contact with Bronco heads during that entire match. I guarantee there was at least half a dozen worse than the one that 'earned' that final penalty. It won't change the result this game but it just might put a bit of pressure on the officials to give us a fair suck of the sav.

The other screamer for me was since when is the 'advantage' played by Cobbo running 20m and getting bundled into touch? Manly can get 5 tackles, 60m and an attacking kick away before coming back for their 'advantage' - so where was ours?

That and our 15m 10 metres compared to the Roosters' 7m or 8m. At this point it's just blatant.

Why is it that we cannot expect consistency? This game purports to be professional, yet they cannot even get the basics of the game right.
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If a brush of the head is all it takes to justify a penalty then the penalty count for both sides should be double, it would happen in probably at least 1-2 tackles in every set where a hand brushes a chin or something of that sort which it what makes it so hard to cop

They would never call that a penalty in the run of regular play
 
Big Pete said:
That's a different circumstance.

I've been trying to look for an official explanation to no avail but my understanding is that the play 'ends' when a tackle is made. The play begins after the ball clears the ruck, so if a mistake is made during that in-between period it's instantly ruled.

Conversley a player can actually step over the touch line in the process of getting up and playing the ball but as long as they have both feet in the field of play they will be cleared of going into touch.

What Klein is saying is that the mistake happened during that window, so Play 3 (technically 4, but it's confusing enough already) technically never happened they could review everything in the lead up.

I'm not saying it's right or that's the way it should be. I just think it's their rationale although I think either way Annesley is going to issue an apology and that will make everything A-OK.
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What was Teddy's official challenge in regards to anyway??

If they have allowed a high shot to be challenged because of a drop in the play the ball, then anytime a player drops it in the ruck they can theoretically challenge anything leading up to that point and any sort of foul play that may have occurred including a slight graze across the face.

Also I recall some teams suggesting that when they're defending if they think a drop ball or something occurred, but the ref missed it they could give away a blatant penalty in the ruck to stop the game and then review the lead up.

However I think that has happened already (think it was in a knights game) and the ref said they cant go back and review because the penalty has occurred after the tackle has completed.... what happened last night goes against those previous rulings and theoretically opens it all back up again.
 
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