2019 Broncos Line-up

[upthebroncs]

Patty will surpasse him. I have no doubts about that. I think Jai is as good as he will get right now. I don't think Jai was better than Pat either in the 20's. The only things I think Jai has in his game over Carrigan is he is a bit quicker and more experienced, but he is almost 24. I've always been a huge fan of Arrow. We should never have got rid of him. Plenty on here were always saying he was average but imo you can just tell some players are going to make it.

Would have been great to see both in the side.

11. Carrigan
12. Gillett
13. Arrow

That's a solid backrow

 

[pagey]

Would have been great to see both in the side.

11. Carrigan
12. Gillett
13. Arrow

That's a solid backrow

I did agree, all of them are similar players


11 Fifita
12 gillo / sua
13 arrow/ carrigan

You need at least one if not 2 attacking backrowers.

 

[Wolfie]

Would have been great to see both in the side.

11. Carrigan
12. Gillett
13. Arrow

That's a solid backrow

You really wouldn't play Carrigan in the back row. I know he can play there, but it's not his best position. Fifita and Sua will be better options there.

 

[ostin86]

I think you've misconstrued my comment. Arrow staying at the level he is at is far from stagnating in my eyes, he is at an elite level now. I'm simply saying that carrigan has the potential to reach the same level. I also said that we should go for arrow if we lose TPJ, I think he'd be a big improvement on him and more of what we need (mainly consistency)

To say someone has reached their peak is to infer that they will not improve on their current level. That is the only part of what you said that I disagreed with really. Everything else you said was pretty bang on.

In regards to teams figuring him out, that is probably true. That would possibly affect his impact even if he does continue to improve.

And sky's the limit for young Pattycakes.

 

[ostin86]

Would have been great to see both in the side.

11. Carrigan
12. Gillett
13. Arrow

That's a solid backrow

Wouldn't mind seeing TPJ in the back row, left hand side and Patty at prop.

8. Haas
10. Lodge/Carrigan we may lose Lodge
11. TPJ
12. Fifita
13. Arrow

Looks like a solid pack to me :)

 

[Battler]

My concern with what's been happening at the Broncos over the last decade or so is we've been accumulating all these foreign mercenaries, who are all fine in their own right, and it might be good tactics for winning, but it risks losing the fanbase who identifies with the regional culture. The reason the Broncos were a strong club is because it's always had that Maroon thing going on. Players lifted to play for us. Outsiders had to prove themselves to be part of the tribe.

Melbourne might be the most winning team in the comp with this tactic but barely anyone would give a shit if they moved to any other city. They have no local players. No fan culture. They are all expat mercenaries. And the Titans are failing in much the same way, despite having a hotbed of local talent.

I'd like to see the Titans rebadge into a Polynesian team. They'd have tons of tribal support, which would be great for the game. And we should concentrate on promoting players in the local and country comps, and only have a few outsiders. A bit like how it's done in County Cricket, rather than the way it's done in the BBL and IPL.

The issue is that all the SEQ (and QLD for that matter) talent are going to clubs like the 'Melbourne' Storm (basically a SEQ side that plays out of Melbourne because Victoria still doesn't produce ANY NRL quality juniors despite Melbourne being in the comp for decades and being successful that entire time... Seriously, what's the point of this club even being in the comp? Imagine how horrific their support is going to be when Smith retires and they start sliding down the ladder, it aint gunna be pretty) and Sydney sides. I don't care if we're bringing in talented NSW players, especially in the forwards. Compare their forward stocks to QLD's at the moment, compare the raw talent of blokes like Haas to whoever the hell QLD have coming through.

QLD can lose 20 Origin series straight for all I care as long as the Broncos are the competition powerhouse in that period.

 

[upthebroncs]

The issue is that all the SEQ (and QLD for that matter) talent are going to clubs like the 'Melbourne' Storm (basically a SEQ side that plays out of Melbourne because Victoria still doesn't produce ANY NRL quality juniors despite Melbourne being in the comp for decades and being successful that entire time... Seriously, what's the point of this club even being in the comp? Imagine how horrific their support is going to be when Smith retires and they start sliding down the ladder, it aint gunna be pretty) and Sydney sides. I don't care if we're bringing in talented NSW players, especially in the forwards. Compare their forward stocks to QLD's at the moment, compare the raw talent of blokes like Haas to whoever the hell QLD have coming through.

QLD can lose 20 Origin series straight for all I care as long as the Broncos are the competition powerhouse in that period.

It is quite depressing when the juniors that we're producing happen to be NSW eligible players..

Glad we have blooded a potential QLD #7 though.

 

[Alec]

Patty will surpasse him. I have no doubts about that. I think Jai is as good as he will get right now. I don't think Jai was better than Pat either in the 20's. The only things I think Jai has in his game over Carrigan is he is a bit quicker and more experienced, but he is almost 24. I've always been a huge fan of Arrow. We should never have got rid of him. Plenty on here were always saying he was average but imo you can just tell some players are going to make it.

Even if Arrow doesn't improve much more, he's already one of the best forwards in the game. Consistently makes big metres, tackles above 90%, offloads more than most forwards and has one of the quickest PTB speeds of all the middle forwards. He'll get better with more experience too IMO, like all middle forwards.

It'll take some effort for Carrigan to reach this level, but it would be amazing if he did.

 

[theshed]

I’m happy to be argued against, but in our halves, we need an Alan Iverson type half. Someone who possess immense innate talent, and the mongrel to go with it.

Sure, trouble will follow, but so will success. Guys like Iverson know no different to winning.

What current half is there in the league that plays like Iverson?? Mitch Moses? Latrell Mitchell?

 

[Wolfie]

Even if Arrow doesn't improve much more, he's already one of the best forwards in the game. Consistently makes big metres, tackles above 90%, offloads more than most forwards and has one of the quickest PTB speeds of all the middle forwards. He'll get better with more experience too IMO, like all middle forwards.

It'll take some effort for Carrigan to reach this level, but it would be amazing if he did.

Jai is a superb player. No doubt about it.

 

[Renegade]

I’m happy to be argued against, but in our halves, we need an Alan Iverson type half. Someone who possess immense innate talent, and the mongrel to go with it.

Sure, trouble will follow, but so will success. Guys like Iverson know no different to winning.

yeah but iverson never won anything and then went broke lol.

 

[Ponga01]

Just curious on people’s opinions on a injury in the halves, who would come in

 

[upthebroncs]

1. Jamayne Isaako
2. Corey Oates
3. Darius Boyd
4. Kotoni Staggs
5. James Roberts
6. Anthony Milford
7. Thomas Dearden
8. Matthew Lodge
9. Jake Turpin
10. Payne Haas
11. Jaydn Su'a
12. Matt Gillett
13. Thomas Flegler
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14. James Segeyaro
15. David Fifita
16. Tevita Pangai
17. Joe Ofahengaue

Would be the best side for next round IMO

 

[Sproj]

1. Jamayne Isaako
2. Corey Oates
3. Darius Boyd
4. Kotoni Staggs
5. James Roberts
6. Anthony Milford
7. Thomas Dearden
8. Matthew Lodge
9. Jake Turpin
10. Payne Haas
11. Jaydn Su'a
12. Matt Gillett
13. Thomas Flegler
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14. James Segeyaro
15. David Fifita
16. Tevita Pangai
17. Joe Ofahengaue

Would be the best side for next round IMO

I hate this line but have you been watching this season and more to the point last game? I mean Carrigan and Glenn were among the best out there and you want to drop them? Su'A has been struggling all year and you want to start him? Isaako has rightly been dropped and you want to reward him with fullback? Meanwhile, Boyd played his best game in 18 months and you want to change him out now? And you want to bring Roberts back already?

 

[holdzy]

I hate this line but have you been watching this season and more to the point last game? I mean Carrigan and Glenn were among the best out there and you want to drop them? Su'A has been struggling all year and you want to start him? Isaako has rightly been dropped and you want to reward him with fullback? Meanwhile, Boyd played his best game in 18 months and you want to change him out now? And you want to bring Roberts back already?

Agree with everything but Roberts. Straight back in, do the job or straight back out and no look in until after Origin 1.

 

[winslow_wong]

I’m happy to be argued against, but in our halves, we need an Alan Iverson type half. Someone who possess immense innate talent, and the mongrel to go with it.

Sure, trouble will follow, but so will success. Guys like Iverson know no different to winning.

So what you’re saying is, we need to scout the nbl or even the nba for a half back?

Kyrie Irving is a free agent now I think and he’s born in Australia

 

[upthebroncs]

I hate this line but have you been watching this season and more to the point last game? I mean Carrigan and Glenn were among the best out there and you want to drop them? Su'A has been struggling all year and you want to start him? Isaako has rightly been dropped and you want to reward him with fullback? Meanwhile, Boyd played his best game in 18 months and you want to change him out now? And you want to bring Roberts back already?

Tomorrow is another day

 

[Ponga01]

Su’a over Fifita

1. Jamayne Isaako
2. Corey Oates
3. Darius Boyd
4. Kotoni Staggs
5. James Roberts
6. Anthony Milford
7. Thomas Dearden
8. Matthew Lodge
9. Jake Turpin
10. Payne Haas
11. Jaydn Su'a
12. Matt Gillett
13. Thomas Flegler
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14. James Segeyaro
15. David Fifita
16. Tevita Pangai
17. Joe Ofahengaue

Would be the best side for next round IMO