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As much as people bag JT, he would have never given up the chase in a situation like that.
Who bags JT? Has anyone ever bagged his competitiveness, ever?
As much as people bag JT, he would have never given up the chase in a situation like that.
Who bags JT? Has anyone ever bagged his competitiveness, ever?
I see plenty of people bagging the bloke, probably because of his time as a Cowboy. The media like putting Cleary up as a halfback who could be one of the best ever and i think that sort of thing shows he's nowhere near somebody like Thurston.
Of course he isn't, he is still young but he certainly has the ability to be right up there by the time he is done. I think many often forget how young Cleary is.
But regardless of how good or bad JT was in his final season even, has anyone ever questioned his competitiveness and willing to play to the very last second?
Wighton & Burton are both better 6s than Luai. Luai is opportunistic but goes missing when it counts, and his D isnt origin standard.
He has the Milford thing going on, really good when the teams on top, but doesn't offer anything when they're behind
Because they cant question it. He never gave them the opportunity to. Doesnt matter Cleary is young, age doesnt stop you chasing a lost cause. I dont get what his age has anything to do with him stopping chasing Hunt. Its little things like doing that that will separate him from JT.
You've missed the original point and taken it off topic. The original post I responded to said people questioned JT. I asked who questioned him. I am not arguing Cleary is as good as JT, he at present simply isn't.
You're right of course.....size of the heart you play with is all that matters. Obviously Clearly doesn't have it and will be just another NSW "superstar" who never really quite goes the distance.Because they cant question it. He never gave them the opportunity to. Doesnt matter Cleary is young, age doesnt stop you chasing a lost cause. I dont get what his age has anything to do with him stopping chasing Hunt. Its little things like doing that that will separate him from JT.
Does anyone recognise who was yelling GO GO GO?
As much as people bag JT, he would have never given up the chase in a situation like that.
Well said.Just rewatched the cobbo incident and I have a few notes:
Luai is a despicable grub, who goes down along side Gallen and Bird as blues most dastardly players.
Papa instantly seeing cobbo, calling the ref to stop the game, seeing Luai and pushing him off Cobbo.
Gagai shielding cobbo with his body and protecting his team mate is the most heart warming thing I’ve seen on a footy field since Hodgo was caring for JYY when he did his ankle. He deserves all time origin great beside his name forever more.
Steven Crichton was also visibly concerned for Cobbo and gets gold star for not being a total knob. Good job son.
I still think that wasn’t smith on the mic. I think it was picking me up from down here in Victoria.after hearing Cam Smith riding home Hunt, whats the bet channel 9 replace him with another blue ... while still leaving Johns in place
I agree mate, just to add Staggs was made to be a scapegoat after game 1 despite not getting quality ball. He was not the issue.Freddy deserved to lose this series. For bad team lists
- not picking proven NSWmen (e.g. Addo Carr, Jurbo game 1, Wighton game 3)
- pandering to the Panther squad (dropping RCG after a solid performance)
- picking too many Panthers (Crighton is not NSW best centre, Luai isn't the best 6)
- weird Talakai selection
Then whining and bitching about everything after game 1 (no accountability, not my fault mentality)
Lastly, and maybe most importantly, allowing so many selection dramas. If I had Tupou umm-ing and ahh-ing I'd have a proper sit down with him, assess where his head is at, and if he isn't commited - go to someone else. As QLD continually shows, Origin isn't about who the best player is. It's about who wants it more. Starry team beats a team of stars
I dont think i have. The post you are commenting on originally was my reply to @Kimlo's post about Cleary being a media love child. I merely pointed out JT ( who lets face it, has been bagged on here and bagged by the NSW media for not being Joey ) wouldn't have give up like the NSW golden boy. I didnt specifically mention his competitiveness. Jt was just the first bloke that sprang to mind.
I guess if you really want i can spend a few hours and compile a list of people who have had a go at JT