22/23 Off season - what must be done?

[Harry Sack]

The thinking with Walters may be that he hits the 50 game mark at roughly the same time Walsh does? (injuries not withstanding)

And it will have only taken him a decade and 3 clubs to do it

50 games in roughly a decade. Talk about fucking context...yikes

 

[lynx000]

You know who would have been ideal for us in that seasoned prop role, Nicholls from Souths.

 

[Super Freak]

I've heard a couple of players were upset by the way Kevvie sprayed the team after the Eels game.

Whoever those players are, **** them off. That's one thing we need to do in the off-season.

 

[theshed]

I've heard a couple of players were upset by the way Kevvie sprayed the team after the Eels game.

Whoever those players are, **** them off. That's one thing we need to do in the off-season.

Hope one was Billy

 

[Sproj]

We should assume we won’t get Hunt as a hooker or Cook and I think that’s ok, he has career fade out written all over him. The big miss was Koroisau but maybe he didn’t want to leave Sydney. So we need to get creative.

We need to look at Q Cup, Super League or reserve hookers elsewhere.

So we have:
Simpkin (gettable and an affiliation with the club)
Smoothey (@Big Pete’s choice and see above)
Levi
Marshke ?? (The Roosters reserve hooker who I can’t think of right now)
Granville
??

 

[Skyblues87]

Try following in pre season
1 Herbie
6 Walsh
7 Reynolds
9 Mam

 

[theshed]

We should assume we won’t get Hunt as a hooker or Cook and I think that’s ok, he has career fade out written all over him. The big miss was Koroisau but maybe he didn’t want to leave Sydney. So we need to get creative.

We need to look at Q Cup, Super League or reserve hookers elsewhere.

So we have:
Simpkin (gettable and an affiliation with the club)
Smoothey (@Big Pete’s choice and see above)
Levi
Marshke ?? (The Roosters reserve hooker who I can’t think of right now)
Granville
??

Havili? Utility with Paix to start

 

[Cult]

In no specific order
- A Hooker
It's where each play starts and we can't win without someone who can pass accurately off the ground. Ben Hunt would save us. Simpkin or Liddle will be available. Maybe an SOS to Jake Granville? From the Super League, Kruise Leeming is a smart, fast hooker who can kick currently at Leeds Rhinos. Danny Levi could definitely do a job. Andy Ackers from Salford could make a really good 14. Paul McShane from Castleford is 33 but is crafty and has a nice left boot. Sam Powell from Wigan is also another good shout. He's a very good defender and scores a lot of tries for a hooker. Any of these players would be an upgrade

-Assistant Coaches
Reynolds can't be in charge of game plans. We need someone who can do the job well. Michael Hagan is the top choice in my opinion. Josh Hannay is probably the top available prospect that isn't signed. Listening to Matthew Elliot break down plays for NRL.com shows he knows what he's talking about. Michael MaGuire and Geoff Toovey would also be interesting assistans to Walters.

Marc Brentnall from the Storm is off contract. He gets a lot of credit for the Storms attack and ability to "make changes according to the rules". Stephen Kearney is also off contract again.

We also need someone who can coach a modern defense. It's a different version of rugby league that these old boys haven't perfected. We need the wrestle. I'd hope DD is on the phone to whoever coaches the Storm defense.

-The Players/Depth
We need to get team selections right every week. But we also need to replace who we are losing. Tyson Gamble, Brenko Lee, Rhys Kennedy, Jake Turpin, Ryan James, David Mead, Tyrone Roberts, Albert Kelly, Zac Hosking, Te Maire Martin and possibly Payne Haas will all be departing at the end of the year and so far we are only bringing in Reece Walsh. We can not fall into the trap of thinking our juniors will simply make the move up.

Do not let Tyson Gamble go to the Knights without getting either Jake Clifford or Adam Clune as a replacement.
Brenko Lee could be replaced by Deloise Hoeter as our permanent backup centre.
Rhys Kennedy's spot will be taken by Xavier Willison
Ryan James replacement? We need an old head. Andrew Fifita, Marty Taupau or Jordan McLean?
David Mead for Ethan Quai-Ward I guess?
Hosking for Eisenhuth?
I'd keep Kelly if he can keep going but replace Roberts with Sam Scarlett or send Mitchell Pearce or Aidan Sezar a Q Cup contract.
And finally, Payne Haas needs to go. But do not let him go without getting someone worthwhile in return. If possible, only allow him to negotiate with clubs who want to come to the table. He's a very good player. Sharks for Brailey, Storm for Grant or Munster, Cowboys for Robson, etc.

-The Competition
We need to send the NRL a huuuuge please explain about how this club gets treated every week by the refs. Just ask the question once, because there's no way the rulings on certain parts of the game have been reffed fairly this year. Teams constantly offside, laying all over us, second or third movements in tackles at the start of a game and we follow suit because that's how we think the game is going to be reffed and all of a sudden the rules change. Playing the Broncos is the easiest game in the league for defensive lines as they can do whatever they want.

-Q Cup
Relationships need to be mended. The Q Cup needs to be a transition competition for QLD teams only. You would never see Penriths NSW cup team sign with the Broncos and it should be the same way for Ipswich. It shouldn't even be an option.

I am sure there's more that needs to be done and I am sure it's all been said before, but we need to be smarter overall. DD and Ikin are two intelligent rugby league brains who know better than us, but the club needs to get on the same page. Coach needs to be smarter, the players need to be smarter, the team needs to manipulate rules like the other clubs do and that includes manipulating the competition by making complaints at the right time. If they're going to sit on their hands and let the NRL **** us, we can't expect anything else. They don't even need a Broncos logo on their shirt to say it. We have an entire media company in our back pocket. Walters can literally say "we didn't show up" after the game, but on Sunday "CHEATS" should be covering the entire back page. Pull the right strings.

And finally, start another Super League. This entire sport is rotten and won't improve with who is in charge.

 

[Mitchell_Broncos]

If we got rid of Kevvie do we not look at what’s he’s brought back into the club, it’s a clear sight that he’s brought the culture back into the club, he’s brought back some old boys around the club as well, that’s helped the young boys. I just fear that we will loose that again if we get rid of him?

 

[vertigo]

Havili? Utility with Paix to start

Did you see how awful his service was last night.

Got hooked for nikorima after 5 mins.

 

[theshed]

Did you see how awful his service was last night.

Got hooked for nikorima after 5 mins.

Really ? Who did Nikorima get hooked for then because he apparently only played 17 minutes

 

[LittleDavey]

#1 priority is fix the mental weaknesses in this team. Get a sports psychologist or 3 onboard and work on the group as a whole as well as each bloke in person. I have no idea whether this is already happening, but it's got to be the #1 priority - they have got to stop dropping their bundle when things go wrong. Attitude is the key - when they were winning and it was fun, they were playing so differently.

#2 is defence in general. #2a is linespeed, which comes from fitness. We need to be bashing the opposition every damn set next year and we fans should not accept anything less. 2b is wrapping up offloads, we must be worst in the league at that? 2c is the wrestle and not getting stuck on the fucking ground. We need a hell of a lot more from our defensive coaching.

#3 attack. There was some movement on this earlier in the year yet it seems to have completely evaporated since and again we look completely clueless in attack. Remember way back when Reyno had it on a string? Either through the hands / cutout pass / kick for Cobbo in the corner / chip over the top for Kotoni, Riki or himself? Where did that go? Where did the Oates attack go - not only bombing to the corner but the steaming in off the back fence towards the posts? I have this at #3 as we have a significant amount of strike power and IMO our defence needs 90% of the off-season field work. Some basic plays to start will do. What are Mam's strengths and how can we play to these? Work with the talents of the team we have.

I dunno. I'm absolutely gutted that a few weeks ago we could have almost stitched up a 2nd chance in the finals - and were looking like we could maybe match it with almost anyone in the comp - and now we'll miss out.

 

[kman]

This might be very looked down apon but I believe it would be be best for the club moving forward. We offer Reynolds to the knights who are desperate for a half and we sign Munster. Reynolds is injury prone and is near the end of his career where as Munster is peak of his career. Mam has great kicking around the oppents ingoal and Munster has a good long kicking game.

 

[theshed]

#1 priority is fix the mental weaknesses in this team. Get a sports psychologist or 3 onboard and work on the group as a whole as well as each bloke in person. I have no idea whether this is already happening, but it's got to be the #1 priority - they have got to stop dropping their bundle when things go wrong. Attitude is the key - when they were winning and it was fun, they were playing so differently.

#2 is defence in general. #2a is linespeed, which comes from fitness. We need to be bashing the opposition every damn set next year and we fans should not accept anything less. 2b is wrapping up offloads, we must be worst in the league at that? 2c is the wrestle and not getting stuck on the fucking ground. We need a hell of a lot more from our defensive coaching.

#3 attack. There was some movement on this earlier in the year yet it seems to have completely evaporated since and again we look completely clueless in attack. Remember way back when Reyno had it on a string? Either through the hands / cutout pass / kick for Cobbo in the corner / chip over the top for Kotoni, Riki or himself? Where did that go? Where did the Oates attack go - not only bombing to the corner but the steaming in off the back fence towards the posts? I have this at #3 as we have a significant amount of strike power and IMO our defence needs 90% of the off-season field work. Some basic plays to start will do. What are Mam's strengths and how can we play to these? Work with the talents of the team we have.

I dunno. I'm absolutely gutted that a few weeks ago we could have almost stitched up a 2nd chance in the finals - and were looking like we could maybe match it with almost anyone in the comp - and now we'll miss out.

We need to implement the storm boot camp that all new signings go through (and current squad) and anyone who doesn’t have the mental fortitude to push through gets shown the door. The guys complaining about preseason being too hard can be first on the list.

 

[winslow_wong]

What happened to the team huddles for breathing techniques?

 

[theshed]

I won’t be surprised if there is a fair bit of movement over the off season. Haas will be gone at minimum. I think there may be a few more guys leaving before their contracts are up.

 

[Sproj]

I won’t be surprised if there is a fair bit of movement over the off season. Haas will be gone at minimum. I think there may be a few more guys leaving before their contracts are up.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is Staggs.

 

[Mitchell_Broncos]

I won’t be surprised if there is a fair bit of movement over the off season. Haas will be gone at minimum. I think there may be a few more guys leaving before their contracts are up.

Especially after they can’t handle some yelling at them after conceding 50+ points. Lol