Australian Summer Of Cricket '08/'09

[Black Philip]

Brett Lee is an arrogant pr*ck. Can't stand the bastard. There is something about the look on his face after he has just taken a wicket, or after he has just bounced someone that makes me wanna fly kick him in the head.

 

[mrslong]

I know, like he clean bowls Murali and celebrates for half an hour. FFS, I could clean bowl Murali.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Lee, Siddle and Kreza hang your heads in shame.. It was like the rest of the attack were waiting for Johnson to take 5/2 again.. Pur Batsmen let us down also with a few very poor shots but that's cricket. Ultimately the better team won the match and the Aussies need to expect to lose a lot more without a half decent spinner. Once upon a time the Aussies could get away with mediocre batting displays but without Mcgrath, Warne and even Clark the batsmen cannot fail otherwise we will struggle to win matches.

 

[The Brizz]

Lee has been terrible for a long time now (he was improved last summer) but is back to his woeful best. He has no pace anymore which is the only thing he used to have, he has to go and if he didn't move so much product for Cricket Australia I reckon he would be. Siddle is an average state bowler at best. Krezja needs more time in the side he has a tonne of potential and flights the ball well just needs to work on hitting a length consistently so he can build some pressure. Symonds is a joke at the moment, to have a guy walk back into the side on no form and then piss his wickets away is a farce.

Watson bowled excellently in India (better than S.Clark, Lee, Siddle and White) he has decent pace and variety and would have been great to hand the ball to during the last test, Watson would have been in any other test side in the world for some time now and would have made the breakthrough runs he needs to cement his spot, the guy is a ready made test all rounder he just needs a bit of time.

I would pick but know it won't happen for the second test;
Hayden (on his last chance)
Katich
Ponting
Clarke
Watson
Hussey (He is a opener or a 6, his best cricket has come batting further down with the tail and I never understood why he was moved just becuase he made some runs)
Haddin
Noffke
Krejza
Johnson
Hillfenhaus

 

[Bucking Beads]

Well two changes were made to the sqaud for the boxing day test...

Katich
Hayden
Ponting
Hussey
Clarke
Symonds
Haddin
Lee
Johnson
Huaritz
Hlifenhaus

Siddle
Watson

I am very surprised the selectors didn't give Krejza more time in the side. Siddle better not play and Lee will be on his last chance I think he is much better than Lee.

 

[The Brizz]

Thats better than I expected. I still don't understand why Symonds is untouchable?

 

[The Brizz]

Also Krejza getting dropped is a disgrace. Do they expect a young inexperienced spinner to take a bag at the WACA? He bowled well in patches and did cause some problems, this will ruin his confidence.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Thats better than I expected. I still don't understand why Symonds is untouchable?

His form in test match cricket over the last 12 months has been great, he also is the X factor in the side. Granted he threw his wicket away in both innings in Perth but that is the way he bats. I am also of the opinion it is star appeal and the fact he would draw crowds that stops him getting dropped.

 

[robbie mustoe]

Also Krejza getting dropped is a disgrace. Do they expect a young inexperienced spinner to take a bag at the WACA? He bowled well in patches and did cause some problems, this will ruin his confidence.

He looked terrible to me. I would have given him the chop.

 

[The Brizz]

[quote="FCB BB AKA MB":1n24kbsa]Also Krejza getting dropped is a disgrace. Do they expect a young inexperienced spinner to take a bag at the WACA? He bowled well in patches and did cause some problems, this will ruin his confidence.

He looked terrible to me. I would have given him the chop.[/quote:1n24kbsa]

Krejza unlike Hauritz gives the ball some air (thus giving it a chance to spin) and does get the ball to turn. He gets hit but all young spinners do and we will be at square one forever if we don't give one of these guys a long run, Hauritz isn't the answer he bowls quick darts that don't spin.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Hauritz should be able to keep it tight though and that is why he has been selected.. Off Spinners should be able to tie down one end whilst Kreza never can and probably never will.

 

[The Brizz]

Hauritz should be able to keep it tight though and that is why he has been selected.. Off Spinners should be able to tie down one end whilst Kreza never can and probably never will.

It is the same thing they said about Warne after he got flogged early on and about Magill when he was young. Spinners who throw up the ball and spin it will get hit especially when they are first learning their trade. Putting in a guy who will get flogged and not spin the ball and not get many wickets is pointless, Hauritz is a nothing bowler. Krejza may not be the answer but has the potential to take wickets which is what you want from a front line bowler. Hauritz will take less than 3 wickets for the test and go for comfortably over 3 an over. All this exercise will do is discourage Krejza and look what happened to another spinning talent in Dan Cullen they gave him a test where he barely got a bowl and then ditched him for the likes of Cameron White and now he is a shell of the bowler he was before that test match confidence sapped playing grade cricket.

 

[robbie mustoe]

[quote="robbie mustoe":102dxakr][quote="FCB BB AKA MB":102dxakr]Also Krejza getting dropped is a disgrace. Do they expect a young inexperienced spinner to take a bag at the WACA? He bowled well in patches and did cause some problems, this will ruin his confidence.

He looked terrible to me. I would have given him the chop.[/quote:102dxakr]

Krejza unlike Hauritz gives the ball some air (thus giving it a chance to spin) and does get the ball to turn. He gets hit but all young spinners do and we will be at square one forever if we don't give one of these guys a long run, Hauritz isn't the answer he bowls quick darts that don't spin.[/quote:102dxakr]

I just don't think we should play a spinner unless we have one that is good enough. Neither Krejza or Hauritz look like Test match material IMO. We should just let them go.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Hauritz should be able to keep it tight though and that is why he has been selected.. Off Spinners should be able to tie down one end whilst Kreza never can and probably never will.

It is the same thing they said about Warne after he got flogged early on and about Magill when he was young. Spinners who throw up the ball and spin it will get hit especially when they are first learning their trade. Putting in a guy who will get flogged and not spin the ball and not get many wickets is pointless, Hauritz is a nothing bowler. Krejza may not be the answer but has the potential to take wickets which is what you want from a front line bowler. Hauritz will take less than 3 wickets for the test and go for comfortably over 3 an over. All this exercise will do is discourage Krejza and look what happened to another spinning talent in Dan Cullen they gave him a test where he barely got a bowl and then ditched him for the likes of Cameron White and now he is a shell of the bowler he was before that test match confidence sapped playing grade cricket.

If Kreza was a wrist spinner I would agree with you but he is a finger spinner they are meant to be able to keep it tight even if throwing it up and spinning the ball a mile. Kreza has a problem with control and he bowls to short too often.

 

[The Brizz]

I agree he has a problem with control but every young spinner on the planet does. We need a front line spinner and the only way we will get one is to persist with a young guy who takes risks trying to take wickets. I also agree that a wrist spinner would be preferable but Krejza has already shown when he gets it right he can be very damaging.

 

[Bucking Beads]

He was bowling in India and off spinners are notorious for doing well in India and not very well in Australia. I don't think any spinners in Australia are good enough at the moment and I wouldn't play either of them but if I had to chose I woul go Haurtiz due to his ability to tie a batsmen down at one end even if it isn't that threatening.

 

[ningnangnong]

Delighted to see Hilfenhaus getting a start.

 

[Je$ter]

I LOL at Australian cricket. Personally I think they seem to be pretty arrogant ppl who can't play when the going gets tough. They are used to it all going their way. And now that we don't have the likes of Warne and McGrath to win us matches inthe 4th innings proves how good we really are (or aren't). Ponting is a shithouse captain who looked awesome when could give the ball to McGrath and Warne and they'd take 8 or 9 wickets between them. And Brett Lee is the biggest tool of the lot, arrogant as hell, bowls 1 line and carries on like he is God's gift when he gets a wicket - his pace is a myth he is useless. What a twat. No wonder his wife left him.