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Sproj

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The Heat's batting is fine but when you lose both Lynn and Burns, what do you do?

As mentioned, they need to bring in some decent bowlers for goodness sake. Sign them early, it can't be that hard surely!

Go with:

1. McCullum
2. Bryant
3. Lynn
4. Burns
5. Pierson
6. Turner
7. Wildermuth
8. Steketee
9. Stanlake
10. Swepson
11. Shah
 

JAHHW

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Heat couldn’t catch a cold, Renegades held onto just about everything.
Story of the season really.
 
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Jason Simmons

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The Heat's batting is fine but when you lose both Lynn and Burns, what do you do?

As mentioned, they need to bring in some decent bowlers for goodness sake. Sign them early, it can't be that hard surely!

Go with:

1. McCullum
2. Bryant
3. Lynn
4. Burns
5. Pierson
6. Turner
7. Wildermuth
8. Steketee
9. Stanlake
10. Swepson
11. Shah

Hire a decent fielding coach, develop a bowling plan that differs from short and wide pies, maybe? Maybe hire a bowling coach who can teach our bowlers how to bowl a single yorker in the game?

Study whst your opponents do and actually put fielders in their hitting zones?

Oh, and play like a team and not rely soley on one or two players to repeatedly dig you out of the hole the Heat continually find themselves in...

Something along those lines would be a start...
 

Bucking Beads

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The Heat's batting is fine but when you lose both Lynn and Burns, what do you do?

As mentioned, they need to bring in some decent bowlers for goodness sake. Sign them early, it can't be that hard surely!

Go with:

1. McCullum
2. Bryant
3. Lynn
4. Burns
5. Pierson
6. Turner
7. Wildermuth
8. Steketee
9. Stanlake
10. Swepson
11. Shah
what!! Just going to sign Wildermuth, Turner and Stanlake are they,?
 

Tom

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Hire a decent fielding coach, develop a bowling plan that differs from short and wide pies, maybe? Maybe hire a bowling coach who can teach our bowlers how to bowl a single yorker in the game?

Study whst your opponents do and actually put fielders in their hitting zones?

Oh, and play like a team and not rely soley on one or two players to repeatedly dig you out of the hole the Heat continually find themselves in...

Something along those lines would be a start...
At this level they should know how to do simple things like field. I don't see what a fielding coach can teach them that they shouldn't already know. Maybe hiring new players is the go.
 

Jason Simmons

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At this level they should know how to do simple things like field. I don't see what a fielding coach can teach them that they shouldn't already know. Maybe hiring new players is the go.
That excuse is terrible, IMHO. They know the ‘basics’ but they have to hone and hone and hone. This is supposedly A grade, dropping the catches the Heat have been dropping all summer show they aren’t doing that... Why do NRL teams run drills? Why have assistant coaches for attack? They all know the basics right?
 

Tom

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That excuse is terrible, IMHO. They know the ‘basics’ but they have to hone and hone and hone. This is supposedly A grade, dropping the catches the Heat have been dropping all summer show they aren’t doing that... Why do NRL teams run drills? Why have assistant coaches for attack? They all know the basics right?
Being able to catch a ball is something I learned as a child. Some of the fielding performances have been disgraceful, not strictly talking about dropped catches either. Misfields in general.
 

Dexter

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Just got home from the game, they need a big broom. It's hard to win games when you suck at batting bowling and fielding.
Maybe the batsmen would stand a chance if our bowlers could get close to bowling to a field.
At one stage Steketee bowled a bouncer and did't have anyone behind the bat bar the keeper, there was literally a 100 mtrs between fieldsmen on the boundary, just fucking hopeless.
 

Mister Wright

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I agree with the Broom analogy. No way should we have missed the finals after having 4 wins from 6 games. We lost 4 straight. I actually think as a team they are not far away, it is just a few key ingredients that are missing. We need to be aggressive and find a strike bowler. We need wicket takers not economical bowlers. Our batting is fine, but we need a completely new bowling unit. I'd look at a player like Tremain from the Renegades who was only brought into the squad when they lost international players. We should also look at Steyn's availability for next summer, even if it is only for a few games. He may be close to ODI retirement and if he can get fit he might be available. Remember we did have him signed for one game in BBL2 so the relationship is there. One of the more dumbfounding decisions, for me, was the fact that Valente couldn't get a game. He really should have come in for the game last night, if not earlier against the sixers.

I would keep Lalor & Steketee because if they had a strike bowler around them they would be much more threatening, plus they're good enough to handle the willow down the order. Oviously Swepson is a keeper also. The rest can be replaced.
 

Mister Wright

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Current Squad:

Bryant (keep)
Burns (keep)
Cutting (keep)
Doggett (cut)
Floros (cut)
Gannon (possible keep)
Haezlett (possible keep)
Khan (possible keep)
Labuschagne (cut)
Lalor (keep)
Lynn (keep)
McCullum (keep)
Pierson (keep) however would have labelled 'cut' early in season, but really like him down the order
Renshaw (possible keep)
Ross (keep)
Shah (cut)
Swepson (keep)
Steketee (keep)
Valente (keep)

Like I said earlier. We're not too far away. Really need a strike bowler!!!
 

Mister Wright

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Not sure why we'd cut guys like Labuschagne & Doggett, they're just young players that are used as depth. You can't have an entire squad of elite T20 players, this isn't IPL.
Labuschagne - 6 matches, 5 innings, 42 runs 20 HS, 8.40avg, 87.5 Sr, 1 duck, 3 4s 0 6s in 48 balls faced.
Doggett - I'll give you, might be kept as a depth player, but still has an economy of 9.5 from 24 overs.
 

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Labuschagne - 6 matches, 5 innings, 42 runs 20 HS, 8.40avg, 87.5 Sr, 1 duck, 3 4s 0 6s in 48 balls faced.
Doggett - I'll give you, might be kept as a depth player, but still has an economy of 9.5 from 24 overs.
So 5 innings is enough of a sample size to throw him away, but you're willing to keep Bryant & Valente in the squad, who have played 0 T20 games between them?
 

Mister Wright

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So 5 innings is enough of a sample size to throw him away, but you're willing to keep Bryant & Valente in the squad, who have played 0 T20 games between them?
Have you actually watched any of those innings? I’ve watched them all and he has looked way out of his depth. Bryant & Valente haven’t had a chance. Bryant is a development player by the way & Valente was on the injured list for most of the season.
 

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Have you actually watched any of those innings? I’ve watched them all and he has looked way out of his depth. Bryant & Valente haven’t had a chance. Bryant is a development player by the way & Valente was on the injured list for most of the season.
I've also watched them all, he has looked out of his depth, so has Heazlett. I wouldn't be dropping either of them though, because of their potential / List A records. They've both proven they can score runs, and are both decent depth / development style players for the future, can't see any benefit in just leaving them out for someone who probably won't even get a bat anyway.

Heazlett (22 years old) - List A average: 52.57 - 1x 100, 3x 50's
Labuschagne (23 years old) - List A average: 39.40 - 7x 50's
 

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Current Squad:

Bryant (keep)
Burns (keep)
Cutting (keep)
Doggett (cut)
Floros (cut)
Gannon (possible keep)
Haezlett (possible keep)
Khan (possible keep)
Labuschagne (cut)
Lalor (keep)
Lynn (keep)
McCullum (keep)
Pierson (keep) however would have labelled 'cut' early in season, but really like him down the order
Renshaw (possible keep)
Ross (keep)
Shah (cut)
Swepson (keep)
Steketee (keep)
Valente (keep)

Like I said earlier. We're not too far away. Really need a strike bowler!!!
Only five guys off contract.
 
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