Ben Hunt vs Ash Taylor

[talanoa]

Speaking of ceilings, why is Kalyn Ponga not playing first grade yet?

he is a long way from being ready for first grade.

 

[Brent81]

Milford's done the same for Hunt when he shanks a field goal.

Yeah but Hayne only got the chance cause Taylor kept getting himself in the wrong position and kept taking low percentage shots....obviously not the messiah some on here believe him to be....

 

[Big Pete]

Trivia Question - How many field goals has Taylor kicked in the NRL?

Trivia Question II - How many field goals has Hunt kicked in the NRL and NYC?

 

[broncos4life]

Trivia Question: Had Taylor slotted one of his attempts would the same old people be on here crying we had lost the qld and Australia halfback and future immortal?

 

[Big Pete]

Hopefully not, because Taylor has already proven himself in a context Ben Hunt never has.

Not bad for a player in his rookie season and it's a shame others feel the need to knock him.

 

[Brent81]

Hopefully not, because Taylor has already proven himself in a context Ben Hunt never has.

Not bad for a player in his rookie season and it's a shame others feel the need to knock him.

Sorry. I forgot. He's a future immortal.

That's why he panicked and started kicking from the wrong side of the ruck....had Hunt done that you'd have had the usual suspects on here crticising him.

That's why Hayne was pretty much the catalyst for everything the Titans did yesterday.

Ps not knocking the kid, just sick of people on here who seem to have him pencilled in as a future legend after a handful of first grade games and that we should bank our future on it....

 

[Big Pete]

He's a future immortal.

Who made that claim?

Other than the ones knocking the guy, setting up false expectations just so they can continue knocking him of course.

That's why he panicked and started kicking from the wrong side of the ruck....had Hunt done that you'd have had the usual suspects on here crticising him.

The Ben Hunt knockers are no better, but in fairness, Hunt is further along in his career than Taylor so he ought to know better.

Based on what I've read, it isn't so much that Taylor is a better player than Ben Hunt. Rather, Ben Hunt and Anthony Milford are so much alike that the Broncos ideally could use a fifth tackle specialist like Taylor to have the best of both worlds.

They could be onto something. Then again, Taylor's body could continue to fail him and he may lose his way, we don't know yet.

What I do know is that these little 'I told you so...' remarks that crop up are fairly pointless. Especially the paranoid 'Well...if he had have done this, we'd be copping it.'

It's pretty funny when you think about it.

He who laughs last...

 

[broncos4life]

Hopefully not, because Taylor has already proven himself in a context Ben Hunt never has.

Not bad for a player in his rookie season and it's a shame others feel the need to knock him.

Hmm yeah it is frustrating when people knock a player despite what he has shown and given, interested to know why you only see the need to jump to the aid of one of these players?

And for the record I am also a big fan of Taylor, I'm just completely sick of the constant pot shots at Hunt.

 

[Big Pete]

interested to know why you only see the need to jump to the aid of one of these players?

Because you're not paying close enough attention.

 

[Super Freak]

Slotting field goals against sides that are on the bottom of the ladder are all well and good..

But when you can't do it against the top teams, that's a problem. You aren't playing bottom teams in the finals.

At least with Hunt, he can produce match-winning plays when the field goals aren't working, just like he did against the Roosters.

Taylor can't. Yet.

 

[Unbreakable]

Slotting field goals against sides that are on the bottom of the ladder are all well and good..

But when you can't do it against the top teams, that's a problem. You aren't playing bottom teams in the finals.

At least with Hunt, he can produce match-winning plays when the field goals aren't working, just like he did against the Roosters.

Taylor can't. Yet.

Lmfao.

What an awful argument, how is kicking field goals against lower teams any different to kicking them against top teams, the guy is like 20 games into his NRL career and you're saying he "can't do it against the top teams", how many opportunities has he had to kick a game winning field goal against top-tier teams in comparison to low-tier teams? And would you consider 3 quarters of a rookie season enough of a sample size to determine his level of clutch?

And let's not pretend that Hunt is some majestical clutch player, he's arguably the most anti-clutch player in all of the top teams, he can't kick a field goal to save his life and he's blown more 5th tackle options than anyone in the NRL. He's extremely lucky that he's got a good dummy and running game, if he didn't he'd be a mainstay in ISC right now.

 

[Mitch06]

Lmfao.

What an awful argument, how is kicking field goals against lower teams any different to kicking them against top teams, the guy is like 20 games into his NRL career and you're saying he "can't do it against the top teams", how many opportunities has he had to kick a game winning field goal against top-tier teams in comparison to low-tier teams? And would you consider 3 quarters of a rookie season enough of a sample size to determine his level of clutch?

And let's not pretend that Hunt is some majestical clutch player, he's arguably the most anti-clutch player in all of the top teams, he can't kick a field goal to save his life and he's blown more 5th tackle options than anyone in the NRL. He's extremely lucky that he's got a good dummy and running game, if he didn't he'd be a mainstay in ISC right now.

He is currently leading in try assists so I'd say he has more than just a 'good running game' and 'dummy'.

 

[Big Pete]

The issue is that in those wins against Sydney and Penrith, the Broncos had to survive a few plays that could have cost them the game. It wasn't like Hunt showed nerves of steel, he just had enough chances to come good.

As we know, the finals are a different story altogether.

Meanwhile Taylor has already demonstrated he can handle the pressure in those situations.

But again, it's just one facet to Taylor's game. The other facet, and one the Broncos richly need is his ability to deliver on fifth tackle plays.

 

[holdzy]

Hunt has 1-2 years to be the consistent leader we need in a No.7 - or he goes and we chase Taylor. I hope he does, because he was awesome last year - except for the GF when we needed it the most.

 

[Unbreakable]

He is currently leading in try assists so I'd say he has more than just a 'good running game' and 'dummy'.

You're right, he has more than a good running game and dummy, he has a good team. They cover up a lot of his mistakes.

I shudder at the thought of him being the Halfback on a below-average roster, like the Knights. Can't imagine he'd be doing any better than the artist formerly known as Trent Hodkinson.

 

[Cult]

he is a long way from being ready for first grade.

I'm aware. My point is that his ceiling is huge and despite that he still hasn't replaced Lachlan Coote.

 

[Cult]

You're right, he has more than a good running game and dummy, he has a good team. They cover up a lot of his mistakes.

I shudder at the thought of him being the Halfback on a below-average roster, like the Knights. Can't imagine he'd be doing any better than the artist formerly known as Trent Hodkinson.

You know what try assists are, right? He is literally setting up tries for the players on his team, not the other way round. The players around him who apparently cover up his mistakes have really let him down this year. How good did they make his kicks look when they gave a shit and chased the ball on friday night? In 2015 he carried the team to the GF, if anything Ben Hunt is covering up a lot of his teams mistakes.

 

[Super Freak]

Lmfao.

What an awful argument, how is kicking field goals against lower teams any different to kicking them against top teams, the guy is like 20 games into his NRL career and you're saying he "can't do it against the top teams", how many opportunities has he had to kick a game winning field goal against top-tier teams in comparison to low-tier teams? And would you consider 3 quarters of a rookie season enough of a sample size to determine his level of clutch?

And let's not pretend that Hunt is some majestical clutch player, he's arguably the most anti-clutch player in all of the top teams, he can't kick a field goal to save his life and he's blown more 5th tackle options than anyone in the NRL. He's extremely lucky that he's got a good dummy and running game, if he didn't he'd be a mainstay in ISC right now.

Do I need to spell it out for you?

Let me break it down.

Taylor has failed to deliver against ALL top teams. He failed against the Sharks despite several chances to win the game.

He failed against the Sharks the first time.

He failed against the Broncos despite chances there to get the Titans back on the front foot instead puts in stupid little kicks and takes all of the pressure off us.

The thing with Taylor, he keeps at the same old thing. He doesn't adapt to the situation.

Hunt does.

We have a very small window of opportunity to win a premiership. Anyone suggesting we get rid of Hunt to bring Taylor who has failed against all top teams are fucking crazy.

As I said before, you're not playing bottom 8 teams in the finals and Hunt carried us to the GF last year. Against 2 of the top 4 teams.

If you think that's all Hunt has, you haven't seen enough of him. Go back and watch the footage. I'll even give you the links.