Boyd can fire for Broncos at wing or centre: Hodges

Blindside

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Haha you don't need it mate. I'm only being half serious. You may end up being right but I do genuinely believe elcapitano is past it. And I think the last 2-3 seasons back that up.
Yes it seems unlikely, but still possible. I don't see why most people want him to fail instead of having a fantastic year and the Broncos possibly winning the Grand Final.
 

Kyall

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It's wing or nothing for Boyd he is safe under high ball and doesn't need to come in to be beaten on the outside for speed in defence.
 

theshed

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All the Boyd haters out there. Will you say you were wrong? Or will your shadows wander of somewhere. If when Boyd kills it next year.
I wouldn’t be wrong though. Boyd just would have somehow changed. I’d still be right about how he’s been the last two seasons.
 

Blindside

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I wouldn’t be wrong though. Boyd just would have somehow changed. I’d still be right about how he’s been the last two seasons.
Yes you would be wrong. Because you think he is past it and then if he has a good year it = Your Wrong. But I do realize it is a big "if" I just have a feeling it's not the end for old Barius Doyd!
 

theshed

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Yes you would be wrong. Because you think he is past it and then if he has a good year it = Your Wrong. But I do realize it is a big "if" I just have a feeling it's not the end for old Barius Doyd!
Past it or not, I think he’s played too shit for 2 seasons to warrant selection. Which he has. If by some miracle of poor team management he is given another chance and kills it, I wasn’t wrong. Boyd just somehow decided to turn up again.
 
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ostin86

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Yes it seems unlikely, but still possible. I don't see why most people want him to fail instead of having a fantastic year and the Broncos possibly winning the Grand Final.
From my perspective I really never wanted Boyd to fail. I will admit that I have never really liked the bloke, but as soon as any player puts that Broncos jersey on I will support them.

What I will say is that I resent the fact that he has maintained his position within the side when players of lesser stature would not have. This leads to me complaining about Darius and potentially people such as yourself believing that I or others just wanted him to fail.
 

Blindside

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Past it or not, I think he’s played too shit for 2 seasons to warrant selection. Which he has. If by some miracle of poor team management he is given another chance and kills it, I wasn’t wrong. Boyd just somehow decided to turn up again.
If they put him on the bloody wing might have been a different story. But ah well maybe this year.
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From my perspective I really never wanted Boyd to fail. I will admit that I have never really liked the bloke, but as soon as any player puts that Broncos jersey on I will support them.

What I will say is that I resent the fact that he has maintained his position within the side when players of lesser stature would not have. This leads to me complaining about Darius and potentially people such as yourself believing that I or others just wanted him to fail.
Wow you paint a lovely picture.
 
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Marty Deutschmann

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So far, anything good Isaako has done is for me, overshadowed by his awful defence out wide - missed tackles and leaving his wing. It seems for each try he scores he lets one in. He really needs to fix his defensive reads to become a good winger and to maximise the undoubted talent he does have
Here we go again...

Issako letting an unmarked player in is the fault of the players inside him
 

rnabokov

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Here we go again...

Issako letting an unmarked player in is the fault of the players inside him
Isaako consistently leaves his wing, leaving his opposite unmarked. I was coached never to leave your opposite unmarked no matter what. Have things changed?

In any case, my memory of him coming in is that he misses the tackle anyway.

This year Isaako was a defensive liability. He has to change in my book.
 

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Isaako consistently leaves his wing, leaving his opposite unmarked. I was coached never to leave your opposite unmarked no matter what. Have things changed?

In any case, my memory of him coming in is that he misses the tackle anyway.

This year Isaako was a defensive liability. He has to change in my book.
Always remember folks, we lost a Grand Final because Oates didn't care for this fundamental principle.
 

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Isaako has copped major flack for his defence but he was often a victim of his inside defender's poor reads a lot. I am definitely not saying he is without blame, he did make poor decisions too.

However Turpin constantly jammed in, as did staggs and this left isaako alone, often marking 2 or 3 blokes. If he stuck on his wing when out numbered, the try would just be scored by a centre and an easier kick at goal.

The right side (and isaako's) defence was a lot better when dearden was out there who read the attack better than turpin and stuck on his man, allowing isaako to stay on his wing.

I think isaako will come good, yes it was a poor year for him but he trains hard and he will improve. If he practices catching highballs and reading plays with the same dedication he does with his kicking, I think he could develop into a good fullback, he may not have the best ball skills at the moment but he is agile, quicker than he appears and supporting our big forwards, he could do some real damage.
 
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rnabokov

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Isaako has copped major flack for his defence but he was often a victim of his inside defender's poor reads a lot. I am definitely not saying he is without blame, he did make poor decisions too.

However Turpin constantly jammed in, as did staggs and this left isaako alone, often marking 2 or 3 blokes. If he stuck on his wing when out numbered, the try would just be scored by a centre and an easier kick at goal.

The right side (and isaako's) defence was a lot better when dearden was out there who read the attack better than turpin and stuck on his man, allowing isaako to stay on his wing.

I think isaako will come good, yes it was a poor year for him but he trains hard and he will improve. If he practices catching highballs and reading plays with the same dedication he does with his kicking, I think he could develop into a good fullback, he may not have the best ball skills at the moment but he is agile, quicker than he appears and supporting our big forwards, he could do some real damage.
Maybe I am naive. If I was Isaako I would have a few words to Turps and Staggs. One would think that players ought to talk to each other and learn from mistakes as they happen.

Equally naive is the view that the Broncos captain would discuss the shortcomings behind the sticks as the conversion is taken and say fix this shit NOW.

One might also ask what the **** the coach is doing and why the bleeding obvious as seen from the coach's box isn't communicated onfield soon after an obvious **** up.
 

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Isaako has copped major flack for his defence but he was often a victim of his inside defender's poor reads a lot. I am definitely not saying he is without blame, he did make poor decisions too.

However Turpin constantly jammed in, as did staggs and this left isaako alone, often marking 2 or 3 blokes. If he stuck on his wing when out numbered, the try would just be scored by a centre and an easier kick at goal.

The right side (and isaako's) defence was a lot better when dearden was out there who read the attack better than turpin and stuck on his man, allowing isaako to stay on his wing.

I think isaako will come good, yes it was a poor year for him but he trains hard and he will improve. If he practices catching highballs and reading plays with the same dedication he does with his kicking, I think he could develop into a good fullback, he may not have the best ball skills at the moment but he is agile, quicker than he appears and supporting our big forwards, he could do some real damage.
Exactly right, as good as Turps was last year one thing we know for sure is he is not an edge defender. When he wasn’t jamming in on guys he was failing to release from the inside which caused overlaps for Staggs and Isaako to cover.

I can’t quite remember but I think TPJ may have been Turpin’s second rower? If so, that definitely exacerbated the problem and was always going to be a recipe for disaster.
 

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Exactly right, as good as Turps was last year one thing we know for sure is he is not an edge defender. When he wasn’t jamming in on guys he was failing to release from the inside which caused overlaps for Staggs and Isaako to cover.

I can’t quite remember but I think TPJ may have been Turpin’s second rower? If so, that definitely exacerbated the problem and was always going to be a recipe for disaster.
To be fair, he's likely never defended on an edge before in his life, and he had to learn how to do it in the NRL.

Seriously, we talk so often about specialist middle defenders, and we're certainly talking about specialist edge ball runners a lot more now, but for some reason, specialist edge defenders seem to be drastically underrated by the majority of fans. Defending on an edge as a Backrower deserves way more credit than it gets, especially with your decision making needing to be so precise as well as your technique being good enough to often cover for your Halves and Centres who can vary wildly in how well they defend themselves.
 

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To be fair, he's likely never defended on an edge before in his life, and he had to learn how to do it in the NRL.

Seriously, we talk so often about specialist middle defenders, and we're certainly talking about specialist edge ball runners a lot more now, but for some reason, specialist edge defenders seem to be drastically underrated by the majority of fans. Defending on an edge as a Backrower deserves way more credit than it gets, especially with your decision making needing to be so precise as well as your technique being good enough to often cover for your Halves and Centres who can vary wildly in how well they defend themselves.
Agreed. I loved turpin's defence in the centre. He had solid contact, didnt incur a whole bunch of PCMs. However, unfortunately middle and edge defence is a different kettle of fish.
 

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To be fair, he's likely never defended on an edge before in his life, and he had to learn how to do it in the NRL.

Seriously, we talk so often about specialist middle defenders, and we're certainly talking about specialist edge ball runners a lot more now, but for some reason, specialist edge defenders seem to be drastically underrated by the majority of fans. Defending on an edge as a Backrower deserves way more credit than it gets, especially with your decision making needing to be so precise as well as your technique being good enough to often cover for your Halves and Centres who can vary wildly in how well they defend themselves.
100% agree with you. That’s why I put so much value in what Glenn does for us.
 

Old Mate

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Just watched the game against the dogs from a couple of years ago where we had Bird at halfback, loved how Boyd won it for us at the end there milking that penalty. I do like that side of him when it works out.
 

Marty Deutschmann

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Maybe I am naive. If I was Isaako I would have a few words to Turps and Staggs. One would think that players ought to talk to each other and learn from mistakes as they happen.

Equally naive is the view that the Broncos captain would discuss the shortcomings behind the sticks as the conversion is taken and say fix this shit NOW.

One might also ask what the **** the coach is doing and why the bleeding obvious as seen from the coach's box isn't communicated onfield soon after an obvious **** up.
Why we now have a genuine 7 and not a hooker playing out of position
 

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