Boyd - I'm trying too hard

[Cult]

All good points. But the captain is the bloke you look to on the field when it's tough, and Boyd is the first to throw his arms up when things get tough. I also think Wayne let a 'there's more important things than winning' mentality creep into the place.

The players have to accept some of the responsibility for their actions on the field. Blaming Boyd for the way others are playing is a cop out

 

[Huge]

I couldn't drive your work equipment either, but that's why they pay YOU the big bucks. I work up a sweat just seeing the length of the tunnel, but I'm not paid to be able to play football as a professional athlete.

It's not all his fault. But he's playing like shit, he's not worthy of the jersey he wears, and he's certainly not worthy of the C next to his name.

Anyone still defending Boyd, after all the waffle in the media about how he's going to be better and improve blah blah blah, he's done nothing. Nothing at all. That doesn't deserve respect, if anything, it's losing it. He needs to hang up the boots.

Well, you may be right and there's plenty who agree with you. He hasn't been great but over the last few weeks he's been reasonably good but last night was another dip in form. It's all well and good identifying fault but without an offered solution it has limited value. We have other problems and killing Boyd, which some on here would likely do if given the opportunity will not solve the much more serious issues. I still think we're not far off and between the refs and the footy gods(read, simple bad luck) we were never in it.

To change things up I'd move Boyd into centre swapping him with Birdy. Oates would do nothing but catch and a combination weights and aerobic exercise programme. I mean he would have to catch 5,000 balls in the 7 days between games, the football flung by a machine and Oates running to get them. It would be humiliating and productive. I wouldn't change Milford and Dearden but I would tell his minders to forget about providing extra help.

Roberts I'd rest with Staggs instead preferred. I'd stick with Isaako and play my super keen youngsters, namely Fifita who I hold in very high regard and Flegler. Glenn hasn't really stood out much lately and I'd have to tell him I want to see some outstanding performances or he'll spend a month or two in the lower grade. Gilette is going solidly and he'd have to stay so I'd leave him alone for the time being.

It might be time for a mini camp with a big honesty session, a no holds barred throwdown . It would either bond them or break them but either way some shit must be carted away. If that means dumping Darius by consensus, fine but if he is endorsed by his peers it may unite them. We certainly need change, lets hope Seibold makes something happen.

 

[holdzy]

The players have to accept some of the responsibility for their actions on the field. Blaming Boyd for the way others are playing is a cop out

As far as their attitudes, it's not. Because he sets the tone. No one is blaming Boyd for others dropped balls or bombed tries.

 

[Huge]

I was excited too. I thought he could bring some experience and stability into our spine and our defence. Which he did. He came on reasonable coin and his contract would see him play into his early 30’s. I always knew he was a risky signing though. What really gets me about Boyd, and admittedly this isn’t his fault, is his contract. It’s ridiculous, and I find it really hard to see it as anything other than someone looking out for a mate rather than a rational decision. The talent we could have acquired with Boyd’s money is very significant, and for him to take up that much cap space and go back to playing like the uninterested cat he was at Newcastle does my head in.

Once again, his contract was decided by the board of the Broncos and not by Bennett. When are you guys going to understand that when WB came back he DIDN'T have the authority he once had. Blame the right people, not WB. No one was looking out for a mate, the board clearly wanted long term stability and paid for it.

 

[Sproj]

Well, you may be right and there's plenty who agree with you. He hasn't been great but over the last few weeks he's been reasonably good but last night was another dip in form. It's all well and good identifying fault but without an offered solution it has limited value. We have other problems and killing Boyd, which some on here would likely do if given the opportunity will not solve the much more serious issues. I still think we're not far off and between the refs and the footy gods(read, simple bad luck) we were never in it.

To change things up I'd move Boyd into centre swapping him with Birdy. Oates would do nothing but catch and a combination weights and aerobic exercise programme. I mean he would have to catch 5,000 balls in the 7 days between games, the fiitball flung by a machine and Oates running to get them. It would be humiliating and productive. I wouldn't change Milford and Dearden but I would tell his minders to forget about providing extra help.

Roberts I'd rest with Staggs instead preferred. I'd stick with Isaako and play my super keen youngsters, namely Fifita who I hold in very high regard and Flegler. Glenn hasn't really stood out much lately and I'd have to tell him I want to see some outstanding performances or he'll spend a month or two in the lower grade. Gilette is going solidly and he'd have to stay so I'd leave him alone for the time being.

It might be time for a mini camp with a big honesty session, a no holds barred throwdown . It would either bond them or break them but either way some shit must be carted away. If that means dumping Darius by consensus, fine but if he is endorsed by his peers it may unite them. We certainly need change, lets hope Seibold makes something happen.

Completely agree with all these ideas.

 

[theshed]

Once again, his contract was decided by the board of the Broncos and not by Bennett. When are you guys going to understand that when WB came back he DIDN'T have the authority he once had. Blame the right people, not WB. No one was looking out for a mate, the board clearly wanted long term stability and paid for it.

I was just about quote your last post saying that I actually agree with you for once. Your team list is basically what I also believe is best.


But then I read this shit. For the boards self-appointed English teacher, your reading comprehension needs some work. I never mentioned Bennett once in my entire post.

Edit: removed name calling.

 

[Porthoz]

Well, you may be right and there's plenty who agree with you. He hasn't been great but over the last few weeks he's been reasonably good but last night was another dip in form. It's all well and good identifying fault but without an offered solution it has limited value. We have other problems and killing Boyd, which some on here would likely do if given the opportunity will not solve the much more serious issues. I still think we're not far off and between the refs and the footy gods(read, simple bad luck) we were never in it.

To change things up I'd move Boyd into centre swapping him with Birdy. Oates would do nothing but catch and a combination weights and aerobic exercise programme. I mean he would have to catch 5,000 balls in the 7 days between games, the fiitball flung by a machine and Oates running to get them. It would be humiliating and productive. I wouldn't change Milford and Dearden but I would tell his minders to forget about providing extra help.

Roberts I'd rest with Staggs instead preferred. I'd stick with Isaako and play my super keen youngsters, namely Fifita who I hold in very high regard and Flegler. Glenn hasn't really stood out much lately and I'd have to tell him I want to see some outstanding performances or he'll spend a month or two in the lower grade. Gilette is going solidly and he'd have to stay so I'd leave him alone for the time being.

It might be time for a mini camp with a big honesty session, a no holds barred throwdown . It would either bond them or break them but either way some shit must be carted away. If that means dumping Darius by consensus, fine but if he is endorsed by his peers it may unite them. We certainly need change, lets hope Seibold makes something happen.

Well, colour me flabbergasted... I almost completely agree with you!

 

[Porthoz]

Once again, his contract was decided by the board of the Broncos and not by Bennett. When are you guys going to understand that when WB came back he DIDN'T have the authority he once had. Blame the right people, not WB. No one was looking out for a mate, the board clearly wanted long term stability and paid for it.

And then this happened...
If you think WB didn't have a huge influence on the contracts signed during his tenure, you're deluded. In any sports organisation, the voice with most weight in regards to recruitment and retention, is the coach. There are no ifs and buts about this, and the Broncos are not going to be the exception to the rule, especially taking into account WB's standing in the game.

 

[Huge]

I was just about quote your last post saying that I actually agree with you for once. Your team list is basically what I also believe is best.


But then I read this shit. For the boards self-appointed English teacher, your reading comprehension needs some work. I never mentioned Bennett once in my entire post.

Edit: removed name calling.

So, someone actually means a singular person, just one person who looked out for HIS mate. This means you think a man who works at the Broncos looked after Boyd by giving him this huge contract. You're saying it wasn't the Broncos board rather it was one guy there. Mmmm, I wonder whomever you could mean.

My comprehension is just fine, you didn't mention WB by name but that's clearly who you implied looked after Boyd.

 

[the_next]

The broncos Instagram page posted a photo of Darius with the match ball for his 300th.
I’m not one to look too much into the rubbish people write on social media, especially as most of them come across pretty uneducated. Literally every single comment is referencing Darius’ poor form and telling him to retire.
It’s pretty telling.
Surely, with I’d say about 95% of the broncos supporters base thinking the same thing, its either time for Darius to move to the wing, have some time away, or just retire.
It feels as if the club is turning a blind eye to his pathetic form and extreme lack of leadership. He would probably be one of the last blokes in our top 30 I would have in the team at the moment, yet somehow he is captain and fullback.
It genuinely blows my mind.

 

[Huge]

And then this happened...
If you think WB didn't have a huge influence on the contracts signed during his tenure, you're deluded. In any sports organisation, the voice with most weight in regards to recruitment and retention, is the coach. There are no ifs and buts about this, and the Broncos are not going to be the exception to the rule, especially taking into account WB's standing in the game.

Once again you're misrepresenting me. WB had an influence and that's as it should be. You can call it huge but that's only because it suits your narrative. Neither of us know how much influence he had back then. I have never stated that WB didn't have imput rather I have stated that was likely the case on several occasions. It's when you misrepresent a person and then proceed to tear down that misrepresentation you end up with, what?

 

[Huge]

The broncos Instagram page posted a photo of Darius with the match ball for his 300th.
I’m not one to look too much into the rubbish people write on social media, especially as most of them come across pretty uneducated. Literally every single comment is referencing Darius’ poor form and telling him to retire.
It’s pretty telling.
Surely, with I’d say about 95% of the broncos supporters base thinking the same thing, its either time for Darius to move to the wing, have some time away, or just retire.
It feels as if the club is turning a blind eye to his pathetic form and extreme lack of leadership. He would probably be one of the last blokes in our top 30 I would have in the team at the moment, yet somehow he is captain and fullback.
It genuinely blows my mind.

To be honest I'm absolutely certain the club is totally aware. These people are not fools even if some foolish decisions happen every now and then. My bet is something will break sooner rather than later and I think I wrote months ago that Boyd will retire long before his contract is finished. Yes, I know he said he'd honour it.

 

[lynx000]

Well, you may be right and there's plenty who agree with you. He hasn't been great but over the last few weeks he's been reasonably good but last night was another dip in form. It's all well and good identifying fault but without an offered solution it has limited value. We have other problems and killing Boyd, which some on here would likely do if given the opportunity will not solve the much more serious issues. I still think we're not far off and between the refs and the footy gods(read, simple bad luck) we were never in it.

To change things up I'd move Boyd into centre swapping him with Birdy. Oates would do nothing but catch and a combination weights and aerobic exercise programme. I mean he would have to catch 5,000 balls in the 7 days between games, the football flung by a machine and Oates running to get them. It would be humiliating and productive. I wouldn't change Milford and Dearden but I would tell his minders to forget about providing extra help.

Roberts I'd rest with Staggs instead preferred. I'd stick with Isaako and play my super keen youngsters, namely Fifita who I hold in very high regard and Flegler. Glenn hasn't really stood out much lately and I'd have to tell him I want to see some outstanding performances or he'll spend a month or two in the lower grade. Gilette is going solidly and he'd have to stay so I'd leave him alone for the time being.

It might be time for a mini camp with a big honesty session, a no holds barred throwdown . It would either bond them or break them but either way some shit must be carted away. If that means dumping Darius by consensus, fine but if he is endorsed by his peers it may unite them. We certainly need change, lets hope Seibold makes something happen.

Great post and I agree with just about everything in there. I don't want to kill Boyd, but I think he does need a break from fullback to see if he has the will and desire to get back to the standard that we need from him back there. I agree with Bird at fullback and him at centre. If he then stinks it up there, back to Intrust.

I agree with Fifita starting and Glenn to the bench for me. I would leave Flegler on the bench because I think he is performing as an impact interchange. I would put either Joe O or Carrigan to lock and TPJ back to the bench for impact until he shows some discipline and consistency of performance.

 

[Huge]

Great post and I agree with just about everything in there. I don't want to kill Boyd, but I think he does need a break from fullback to see if he has the will and desire to get back to the standard that we need from him back there. I agree with Bird at fullback and him at centre. If he then stinks it up there, back to Intrust.

I agree with Fifita starting and Glenn to the bench for me. I would leave Flegler on the bench because I think he is performing as an impact interchange. I would put either Joe O or Carrigan to lock and TPJ back to the bench for impact until he shows some discipline and consistency of performance.

Love it.

 

[lynx000]

Once again, his contract was decided by the board of the Broncos and not by Bennett. When are you guys going to understand that when WB came back he DIDN'T have the authority he once had. Blame the right people, not WB. No one was looking out for a mate, the board clearly wanted long term stability and paid for it.

If the article in the paper is correct, some members of management had concerns over in particular the length of the contract and Bennett heavily advocated on Boyd's behalf before they finally agreed to the terms of the contract. So in a way both positions are correct.

 

[Huge]

If the article in the paper is correct, some members of management had concerns over in particular the length of the contract and Bennett heavily advocated on Boyd's behalf before they finally agreed to the terms of the contract. So in a way both positions are correct.

Well, as a betting man I always thought that was how it went down. I just cannot cop anyone misrepresenting the scenario and trying to say that WB had full autonomy to give out contracts, full authority to decide dollars and length of contract when tge very real truth is that he had no authority whatsoever to dish out contracts. That was 100% the purview of the board. Yes, they are advised but ultimately they decide. If people want to claim they were merely WBs mouthpiece then why didn't WB give WB a lifetime contract at 2 million dollars a season(cpi linked)

 

[Porthoz]

Once again you're misrepresenting me. WB had an influence and that's as it should be. You can call it huge but that's only because it suits your narrative. Neither of us know how much influence he had back then. I have never stated that WB didn't have imput rather I have stated that was likely the case on several occasions. It's when you misrepresent a person and then proceed to tear down that misrepresentation you end up with, what?

I'm not misrepresenting anything.

I have no doubt a coach has most weight in recruitment and retention at any sports club. This doesn't mean he is solely responsible either, because his recommendations will have to be approved by the board, examined by the salary cap specialist at the club, etc...
I am sure that was the case with Wayne too, especially considering his standing in the game and at the Broncos.
Trying to minimise this by questioning exactly how much influence he exactly had is nothing but an attempt to deflect blame and blur the lines, which is something you have consistently been doing.

 

[tommy]

Of course Bennett had a huge say in the contract. Every other coach at every other club does. Why would this situation be any different? I love Bennett and what he did for us btw but it was time to move on, we were going downhill.